Lyin' Wolf

Try Amazon. Saw one listed for $115. Or Jazz Messengers in Europe - 107 Euro

Parker, Nelson, Crosby, Threadgill, Hawkins, Mingus, Hines, Clooney, Brown/Roach, Coltrane, Kirk http://www.mosaicrecords.com/departments.asp?dept=5

I spent a lot of time today listening to the first two discs. I am a big fan of Morrison's and really enjoyed hearing these early recordings. Some really good shit! It was indeed interesting to read about the musicians they brought in to record in the studio - Jimmy Page and Alan White among them. I enjoyed readings Van's take on things as well - especially as he tried to break free into his own career. I'm going to have to go back and listen to what I have of his early solo stuff in this new context.

Mosaic Condon/Freeman The Complete Them 64-67 David Gilmour Rattle That Cage

Let's not generalize about an entire board and a whole bunch of people because of an exchange or two that bothered you. You can find the exact same kind of crap here among people who never posted on board Y. You're really sounding no different than the stuff you're complaining about. It was not a generalization. There are 4-5 posts that seem to me to be indicative of some type of long standing grudge between a couple of posters from board Y. Unless those posters represent all of Jazz Corner, err board Y, I see no generalization here whatsoever. Sorry you took it that way or that I was ambiguous with my statement. There are grudges here too. Some are childish as well. Others I don't understand - and that might be the case here Just seems like a bad way to make a first impression.... if one even needs to be made, I suppose. Or may better yet......never mind. It was probably to keep my yap shut. Carry on!

I don't know a whole lot of what went on over at the other board... let's call it "board Y" - over the past few years, but it seems to me that some old grudges are being carried over here. Seems quite childish, so perhaps this board needs some sort of age restriction or adult supervision/approval requirement.

I fouund this article interesting: "Monday's decision by the Court of Arbitration for Sport to ban Alberto Contador for two years, after his positive test at the 2010 Tour de France, was the maximum punishment available. In other words, they couldn't have come down harder on him. For this reason alone it should be seen as decisive and definitive. Yet for many it will seem inconclusive and ambiguous, and therefore unsatisfactory. It is even possible that, in the eyes of some, the only relevant question - did Contador cheat during the 2010 Tour? - remains unresolved." Read the rest here: Cycling News: CAS vs Alberto Contador

I no longer know what to think about the Armstrong case. But didn't most of what was alleged to have occurred happen over 10 years ago? The era was different, the tests not as refined and I think the overall attitude toward doping in the peloton was different. The past few years, from what I've seen, cycling has really been trying to clean itself up. Something like this occurs - and it can't be ignored or swept under the rug because Lance may have gotten away with doping. That's like saying anyone should be able to dope just because someone got away with it in the past - so why bother testing at all? From what I've read, it's a back dated 2 year suspension with Contador able to return August 6, 2012. Maybe he'll do the Vuelta?

Contador suspended 1 year and stripped of 2010 title

Ottawa is not currently in the league. Not sure of all of the chronology and some of the facts, but they Ottawa Rough Riders)folded in the mid 90's. A new Ottawa team called the Renegades played in the CFL in the early/mid 00's for a few years before meeting the same fate. Ottawa is currently approved for a new franchise but last I read, there was all sorts of politics in play related to the refurbishing of Ottawa's football stadium. I'm not sure if all that's been ironed out.

My son got up at 7:30 AM on a Saturday in the US to watch this game.. That is a miracle in by book.

I'll never figure out what makes some go crazy over scratches or scuffs that don't affect play. Remember back in the day when "Two Headed Freap" was out OOP and getting big bucks on Ebay? I'm talking $50-75 or so. Back on the old Blue Bulletin Board, some board member obtained a copy of this rare gem and was dissatisfied with the scuffing on the disc. Before he sent it back to the seller, he decided to offer it on the board for $20. I was lucky enough to be the guy who saw it first and pounced. I got the disc and it played flawlessly. It's short - so there's a lot of unrecorded space on the disc. When I examined it, I saw that the scuffs were in the unrecorded portion of the disc only. I'm thankful that he offered it to board members and that I was in the right place at the right time - but to this day I just can't figure out why anyone would part with such a disk given the market conditions for that disk, at that time.

Ahhhhhhh............ My first Mosaic. Brings back memories. Great set.

I've always been a PC guy - seems like they are less expensive. Had to dump my first PC after about 3 years as it was running horribly slow with all sorts of errors. The one I'm currently on is starting the slippery slide. Sometimes it takes 45 minutes to boot up and access the internet, other times it is okay. I'm just getting sick of it. I considered a Mac last time I needed a computer, but the price was just too high. This time around, I'm willing to take the plunge - but am concerned about my ability to same all my photos, documents and ipod stuff to the new computer. I'm not a computer geek - so is there an easy way to transfer this information to my new computer?

Ultimately, I don't think the Ovtcharov decision will help Contador and his case will have to stand on its own merit. Though the claim of meat contamination is the same, the situations are too disparate. Everything I've seen states that it is far more likely to eat clenbuterol contaminated meat in China than in Europe. Others in Ovtcharov's group also tested postive. Testing of a hair sample showed no long term exposure. Certain elements of Contador's situation just don't make sense to me. For example - is the beef so horrible in France that you have to have someone bring beef from Spain over the border to eat on your rest day? Why the source of the beef (butcher shop) has not been named so that an investigation can be conducted into the suppliers of that butcher shop? The fact that clenbuterol has been outlawed in Europe since 1996 and testing of meat has shown only 1 positive in over 80,000 samples with none from Spain showing clenbuterol. Why don't they just test Contador's hair? Plus there's the stigma of the (unvalidated) test for plasticisers that found possible blood doping to evercome.

On the state of professional cycling Contador Chaos: Cycling in Circles

Not looking good for Contador. Plasticisers 8 times over the level associated with doping found in a urine sample taken 7/20 - the day before the clenbuterol sample taken Plasticisers

From New York Post: Experts mixed on Contador's tainted beef defense Some quotes from the article: Howard Jacobs, a Los Angeles attorney who has represented more than 75 athletes facing anti-doping infractions, helped American Olympic swimmer Jessica Hardy get her two-year ban halved after arguing in arbitration that her positive Clenbuterol test was the result of contaminated supplements. Jacobs said if Contador can prove there was contaminated meat somewhere (Clenbuterol is sometimes used in veterinary practices), then the contaminated-food argument might be more persuasive to members of an arbitration panel than a contaminated-supplement defense, because the dangers of nutritional supplements are well-advertised. "It's not a stretch to say there's no way he could imagine that the steak he was eating was contaminated," said Jacobs. And from the other side: But Lewis Maharam, a former president of the New York chapter of the American College of Sports Medicine, is among the skeptics, pointing out that food-borne Clenbuterol would have to have survived not just cooking but the metabolism of the tainted cattle, not to mention Contador's system. I'm confused. Is the beef from Spain that much better than beef from France?

Another theory Contaminated food, or tainted blood transfusion?

Put me solidly in this camp At a time when I was exploring different styles of music - the sound and popularity of early BS&T and CTA helped push me toward the jazz camp. To me at the time - aged 10-13 when that stuff came out - they sounded bold, fresh, exciting. When I read that they were incorporating elements of jazz into their music it made me want to hear more jazz. In retrospect, those bands (among others - like the dreaded fusion groups) helped define who I am as a music listener and helped open me up to the entire genre of jazz - which I enjoy to this day. Nothing wrong with that. I think most would agree that after their early albums, both CTA and BS&T moved into a more commercialized direction, but hey - you have to make a living. That BS&T continues to tour to this day falls under the same category I guess. Back in the day, it was fun and exciting music. I wouldn't pay to see them - but if they came to one of the local summer free concert series - I'd go.

Sounds like a great show. I'm jealous

Heard about the record this morning..... Emptiness Melancholy Sadness Wish it could have felt differently.

What if if one hunts witches because there are witches to be hunted????

GO A-ROD, GO A-ROD, GO

Conveniently forgotten by Bonds' apologists with blinders on (or at least those on the board here) is that steroids have been a Schedule II CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE since the early 90's. That makes it against federal law to use or possess them except under the supervision of a licensed physician. The same is true to a lesser extent for human growth hormone which requires a prescription to use or possess. So, while it is true that there was no specific prohibition of performance enhancing drugs like steroids and HGH, I would think that use and/or possesson of a controlled substance or a prescription drug without a legal prescription would be against whatever code of conduct MLB has in place. The argument that use of steroids is not against baseball rules is rendered moot, IMO, by virtue of the laws governing legal use of these drugs in society as a whole. Steroid use might not make a bad hitter hit better, but it will make any hitter hit with more power. That means warning track power becomes HR power. It means balls coming off the bad with greater speed - so grounders can make out of the infield faster, line drives into the gap in the outfield get there faster and so on. Thus improvement will be seen in batting average and HRs. Bonds stats: (apologies to Dan as I did not notice simlar stats in the post directly preceding mine) Average HRs/season up to age 35 (1999) - 31 Average HRs/season between 2000 and 2004 - 52 Career batting average up to age 35 (1999) - .287 Batting average from 2000 - 2004 = .341 Number of 40+ home run years for the 14 seasons from 1986 - 1999 = 3 Number of 40+ home run years for the 5 seasons from 2000 - 2004 = 5 Average RBIs up through 1999 = 87 Average RBIs from 2000 - 2004 = 108 Slugging percentage (average) through 1999 = .561 Slugging percentage 2000 - 2004 = .782 Clearly, there was a dramatic improvement when players typically level off and/or decline.