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I think you're correct.

Do either of them contain the take with Dickie Wells? Ahh doesn't matter. I already ordered the cd. Thanks.

It's from an early session for Jammin' the Blues? And is the sound track of that film available

I don't think it's fair to tar Mark and Steven with the Valburn brush. But I get what your question was now and I hope the answer is "no". I think it is an unreleased alternative take unused in Jammin' the Blues. Dickie Wells isn't in the take used in the film.

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. In fact I don't understand it at all but I think if I did I'd find it interesting.

This just in: "New Lester Young from 1937* The Basie band arrived in New York for the very first time in late 1936, to play a Christmas week engagement at the Roseland Ballroom opposite Woody Herman. Their first recording date came a few weeks later, on January 21,1937. Honeysuckle Rose was the first tune cut, opening with two choruses of Basie, showing what he had learned from his close friend and mentor, Fat Waller. It was only natural that next up to bat would be theband's most brilliant soloist, Lester Young, who took a break modulating down a major third that swung directly into a typically inspired chorus. Band riffs a la Fletcher Henderson followed and they were on to the next tune. It has long frustrated collectors that there are only a handful of alternate takes extant for the entire Count Basie Decca recording series (1937-39). Many theories have been advanced for this. The reason for alternate takes was that the recording company needed to have more than one version of the tune as a master in case there was a glitch with the original one chosen. So they would record a second version and keep it on the shelf as insurance. Decca had a second turntable installed that would cut two versions of the same master simultaneously, obviating the need for a second one to keep in case it was a mistake with the chosen one. This seems like a plausible scenario. And of all the alternates that do exist, none contain a significant solo by Lester Young, which made the dearth all the more frustrating. I'll turn things over to a hero of classic jazz, producer Scott Wenzel from Mosaic records. Eureka! You never know what’s lurking around the corner. The premier jazz film historian Mark Cantor, while recently visiting the Grammy Museum in L.A., chanced upon a Decca shellac test pressing of Basie's "Honeysuckle Rose” housed within a display case. After closer inspection he saw that it was a previously unissued alternate take. Knowing that Mosaic Records will be re-releasing an 8 CD set of Count Basie and Lester Young sessions (to be released in early June), he contacted Steven Lasker who is one of the transfer engineers for this set. Steven immediately contacted the Grammy Museum curator about this disc, plans were immediately made to borrow and transfer the disc for our set. Many times when finds like this happen it’s usually too good to be true…but not his time. The take is beyond anyone’s expectations. Bravo Mark! Bravo Steven!!" Mark sent me an e-mail about this last night but asked me not to circulate the news until Loren made the announcement. He says Lester's solo is "amazing".

And will this find be on the Mosaic set?

Which "them"? And if it was The Nice, did they burn a flag?

I saw them do this at the Royal Albert Hall in '68. They painted an American flag and then burned it. Supposedly all involved were banned from the RAH forever. It was an anti-Vietnam concert. I'd gone to see Hendricks and Ross who were singing together (no Lambert). The only other thing I remember is Julie Driscoll with Brian Auger and the Trinity singing This Wheel's On Fire.

Well you could give your improvisations a different name and publish it. That's what Van Morrison seems to be doing and IIRC Gil Evans did it with at least one of his intros to a Hendrix song.

Me too, though I think I have 5 of the discs as originally released (one double cd and three single ones-- wonder what I'm missing?)

I gotta add The Staypuft Marshmallow Man

Haven't heard that one but I bought a download of the all instrumental "Moments in Time" done at the same venue around the same time and it sounded OK to me.

Well it's almost time for Spring Can Really Hang You Up the Most.

I'd like a complete Prez live set. I don't think they've ever done that.

And IIRC the rest of the Lp ended up on the CD version of The Individualism of Gil Evans. When I read how pissed he was about the release of the 2 quartet tracks I felt guilty for owning the "Previously Unreleased" Lp.

No. At the RFH they go from John Lewis' "Concord" right into Cheryl at about 1:58.

Wow! I'm jealous.

Isn't there a novel where Dortmunder reads a Richard Stark novel and tries to imitate Parker?

Or Mosaic will do a set of the uncollected Duke on Columbia. (I hope.)

I managed to make a "complete at the Royal Festival Hall" by combining the RCA release with the Mole Records Lp. In the liner notes to the latter they give the running order of the concert and I managed to digitize the two Lps and put the numbers in the correct order.

Want to sell your cd version? I think this is about the rarest Duke right now-- lots of singles which have (IIRC) never been on cd elsewhere.

Not to be trusted for historical accuracy but great fun.

Now that's good advice.

Almost exactly the same for me. BTW There is a new Criterion Blu Ray of American Friend.