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Another great rendition is on Lee Morgan's The Cooker. Outstandingly greazy.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................garlic-slathered......................

As I glance through my collection I see Highnote, Palmetto, Sharp Nine and a lot of Criss Cross. I just wish those Criss Cross CDs weren't so damned expensive!

This was discussed in another thread- I certainly could name some tunes that I'm burned out on, but that doesn't necessarily mean those tunes are weak. Just when I thought I'd heard every conceivable version of a standard, someone comes along and discovers a fresh approach, or they just play with so much conviction and taste that I re-develop interest in the tune. I think it's more of an issue of weak performances that an inherent weakness in the tune itself. That being said, all of us do have our most and least favorite tunes, and that's cool. On Woody's band I had to play Woodchopper's Ball every night, sometimes more than once. Now there's a basically one-note blues head that can get really boring- what made it interesting night after night was the rhythm section copping a hard swinging groove and the soloists attempting to find something new to play each time. Being on the road, the audience is different each night- they don't know if you're playing the same solo that you played last night in another city. But the other players on the stand hear you every night, and they know who's just "phoning it in". Those are the people I'm most playing for. So I think it's about the performance more than the tune. Just to be fair, I'll name a tune that I myself am tired of- There Will Never Be Another You. Now I know of several great recordings of it- a Sonny Rollins and also a Jim McNeeley version, to name a couple. I just feel I've "mined" all I can from it, and don't want to play it for a while. Maybe after a break I'll rediscover some new things to do with it, but in the meantime I'll let someone more inspired have at it. It might be someones else's favorite tune right now. I know my most/least favorite list changes regularly. As for me, I currently like Caravan. I can understand what you're saying, Dan, and I've certainly heard lame versions of it, but I think it's still an interesting tune. With two bridges!

Some great Rosolino solos on that Levey date!

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Hey, there's a Paris in Texas, too!

I'm always interested to hear what folks are doing for the Thanksgiving holiday. Are you visiting friends/relatives? Staying home and having them visit you? What's on the menu this year? Why must Uncle Frank undo his pants after dinner? When do you eat, noon or later? Who's playing Detroit? My wife and I have started a tradition of staying home for one of the major holidays. I think it has something to do with being in our 40s and wanting to be in our own home instead of ALWAYS being someone's guest at Thanksgiving and/or Christmas. My tolerance for being a "guest" (as well as being on the road) is decreasing annually. I like MY bed! We usually stay home for TG, and make the rounds for Xmas. Especially this year, our first in our new home. We don't have kids, so that makes the "selfish" aspect of our decision a little more defensible. Plus, my dad passed away a year ago, so my needs as far as MY side of the family are now minimal (since both parents have passed). I think we're going to do ham this year. I usually reserve one at a local "hamitorium". Now that we've got a house I'm eventually going to buy that big kick-ass smoker (you know, the one with a chimney that burns wood CHUNKS)I've been eyeballing and maybe next time do a smoked turkey. Anyway, please travel safely and I hope you all enjoy the holidays. That's not always an easy task, I know. I'm pretty thankful for this this crazy, dysfunctional and ultimately loveable group of ours, which has turned out to be a pretty cool family as well!

Get your @$$ home and start posting again! We'll look forward to your return.

Me too! Me likey Hermeto! Me likey JimS talk good! Have you heard "Brazilian Adventure" on the Muse label? Some interesting music. He (to me) had a kind of left-of-center Gil Evans mentality.

I have both of these. In a word: Good! In a symbol: Most of the Proper boxes I have are the jazz-related ones, but I admit to having purchased the Bob Wills. I played in a country swing band in my Austin days, and have to admit I had a great time! They played a lot of bop tunes, albeit to a different groove, but it was a blowin' gig! A couple of the original Bob Wills guys were on the gig, steel guitarist Herb Remington and guitarist Eldon Shamblin. These guys were some heavies in the genre. You should have heard Herb blow on Scrapple! I became a believer! I enjoy the Bob Wills box, I guess Texas got to me (in a good way)more than I want to admit!

I may have to disagree with you, my friend. Have you heard this material? It's some amazing stuff- I think a lot of the the pre-Wayne Miles recordings get overlooked and underrated. I personally am a fan of George Coleman, plus you've got some very interesting Sam Rivers here, too. I do think the quintet really came into its own w/Wayne, but don't sell this one short. Some of the most amazing rhythm section work you'll EVER hear. Maybe not the most radical or innovative period, but one worth checking out without a doubt. Tony is amazing. Herbie is amazing. Ron Carter is a rock. Excellent music.

Well, Rooster, if it makes you feel any better I had a little scene last night. I couldn't find my keys, which often happens, but I always find them eventually. Well, I looked EVERYWHERE to no avail. I realized my ONLY car keys were gone (which they charge you to replace), all my school keys (which they charge you to replace) and others, and I started getting dark and pissed off about it. I looked through the trash (always a fun thing) among other places and ended up going to bed w/o success. Now yesterday there were some guys at my house relining my chimney, so as a last resort I called them to see if they by any chance had grabbed them off the counter (they had set some of their stuff there). The guy said "Oh, were those YOUR keys?" and I about started crying I was so relieved. He brought them by and it's all good now. Two lessons- First, it's funny how we become so dependent on our little possessions (and the KEYS that make them work). I was paralyzed w/o my keys. Second, lately I've resolved to not let the little things get me pissed. Not that I was having a rage problem, but I've grown weary of letting little crap get me down. No more. Life's too short, and there are a lot of better ways to spend time and energy. Yesterday was an extreme test, though, and I gave in to the dark side a little more than I would have liked. What you do with your life is only part of the big picture. It's also about the journey to get there. I have to keep reminding myself of that. This was a cheap way to get a good lesson.

My take on this is that Mobley had the misfortune of being in the band during that after-Trane-before-Shorter period where Miles apparently couldn't find the "right fit" for the quintet. George Coleman also was dissed by Miles at times. Hell, EVERYBODY was dissed by Miles at one time or another. If you look at what came after the Blackhawk quintet you can see that the BH recordings documented the end of yet another chapter. Miles was on the verge of something radically different and probably felt he had to move on musically, hence his dissatisfaction with two very competent (to say the least) tenor players. That, and Miles was just an @$$hole sometimes. B)

Roswell-that-ends-well Rudd (that one's for you, slide advantage redoux)

Hell yeah, what was I thinking? Also, any of the Sco w/Dennis Chambers.

I don't think they can take ANYONE for granted, even the "Oakland Steroiders". I'm just concerned who they might have to play in post-season. Some of these tough-division teams will be battle-hardened.

OK, I'll play. Michael Ball-Brecker To-be-Ornette-to-be Coleman Roland.......Roland........Roland-on-the-river Hanna Baby Ella Fitzgerald Walk Eddie Mar-shall!Mar-shall!Mar-shall! Stan whatever-Lola-wants-Lola Getz Kenny-play-I-don't-think-so G

H a P p Y B i R t H d A y A f T a B !

Holst's Planets. Chicago version, of course.

Thanks Ooster!

Yes, it'd be difficult to talk about Ahsaan Oland Irk. Or Ed Odney. Or Enee Osnes.

I had a bad feeling about this game all week. I was afraid that it would be one of the "lesser" opponents that would bring KC down instead of one of the hyped games like Denver or Minnesota. The Bengals played a great game and deserved to win. It's almost a relief that this "undefeated" hype can go away now. We'll see if the Chiefs can make a gut check and get it together. The Titans are looking pretty scary right now as are the Pats, Cowboys and Panthers. It ain't gonna be a cakewalk, that's for sure.

Late post-deadline after-the-fact suggestions: Ballads: Infant Eyes, Miyako Howzabout Talkin' About JC?

I just ordered the Stitt and Tristano. What's the verdict on these? I know the Tristano doesn't duplicate any of the material from the Mosaic set. I've been very happy with the Proper sets I've ordered thus far. Now I must save up for the Eldridge Mosaic. And the Amy and Pearson selects. Still haven't gotten the Chambers and Patton. Must........own..........EVERYTHING!!! Will it never end? I hope not. B)