Dan Gould

OK well good idea on the tune then. Maybe MG can take it from here if he favors me with a listen and post.

It's been a fascinating ride and I thank you for the effort put into this ... I can also say I ended up on what, an oh for 25 at the end? The end definitely had the longest streak of "I don't know these recordings at all" response by me. As for the "other records" list I think it should be presented in trimmed down form to what could have made your list - because you didn't include anything in the past year you don't own, right? So I would be more interested in however many of those that you do own and have heard. Not almost 1000 records that only fit the construct.

Thanks John for all your comments and your willingness to go thru all of my tracks, since clearly not all were expected to receive the coveted Felser Likes seal of approval.

Do you want to stick with that bit of uncertainty? I did say there's a Don Wilkerson connection.

The idea of "did nothing wrong" is in my opinion ludicrous. Mask use isn't something that perfectly prevents spread and no one should think that it will. It's the right thing to do in the aggregate. And no one can avoid contact with others at all times and all locations. What scares me is that you can be careful, get infected, and barely suffer. You can also get it, and end up at death's door, or with horrible long-term impacts, or die. The odds of that happening is still known to be small. Let's say the death rate is 4%. That's bad. That's still 96 people surviving out of 100 infected. Your odds of survival are good. I just don't want to end up getting it and drawing the short straw.

So what do you think now?

I'm not saying there are developments that must be followed. I am just describing how I see these musicians. I land on the "you can be a creative and valuable musician playing a style that was being supplanted around the time you were born" side of the fence. A lot of that is because I was discovering this music at the same time these "young lion" neo-boppers were getting their initial push. So a Brian Lynch record that sounded like a mid-60s BN reissue sounded great to my ears. And still does. I would probably list a lot of musicians from this era that I still listen to ... if I were making an effort to delve back in the stacks to pull them out. Jim Rotondi is one name that comes to mind. I have a lot of his Sharp Nine recordings, haven't listened though in ages. I am sure I'd enjoy them though.

My 2 cents: Neo-bop was the style played by the "young lions" which was more of a marketing term. Neo-bop can also easily be used to describe the music recorded by artists on the earlier list of "slightly later" folks (Eric Alexander, Mike LeDonne, Rotundi et.al.) Just because the battles over what was jazz and what wasn't probably weren't quite so intense, they were still (mostly) all playing an earlier style that ignored most musical developments from the 60s on. Now I'm curious if that "Uptown Ruler" track is the Marsalis composition from one of those "Soul Gestures" volumes.

Glad so many tunes appealed! Thanks for your comments, though none of the specific thoughts as to personnel, tune, age of recording were accurate.

Glad it had appeal.

1. Not Don Wilkerson but a Don Wilkerson connection. 6. DING DING DING - do you know Bootsie so well that you recognized or do you have the recording? Not Pepper, Vi Redd, Fathead, Shepp, Zoot, or Nistico. And neither Chet nor Ben were parties to that attempted drug order. The Fathead, Shepp and Zoot ID's are interesting to me. Can't hear the first Willow as Fathead-like. I'll reserve comment on the Shepp and Zoot thoughts. Thanks SW!

Unfortunately true ... Chuck has as wide a set of ears - figuratively - as anyone possibly can. KH said he's testy in this pandemic situation - and I know I get that way too - so hopefully everyone just moves on.

I harbor no illusions that my effort will spark the discussion that Felser's did this month, but hey, hope springs eternal. This BFT contains 14 tracks and is just over 80 minutes long. There is a theme to selections 1-13, which, if enough tracks are identified, I think will be correctly guessed. Track 14 is purely for the listening pleasure and sheer WTF-ness of it. Guesses are encouraged. I do wish to add that, within the limits of my chosen theme, tracks 1-13 were also chosen according to one question: WWFL? What Would Felser Like? Yes, on quite a few cases I made conscious decisions in favor of options that I thought would appeal to my friend, from my knowledge of his preferences in terms of era as well as prior tunes he has approved of (and avoiding purely pre-bop style performances). We'll see if I done good. If I failed, well, when we pass each other in the halls I hope we can just nod politely and move on. Oh, yeah. You know where it is: http://thomkeith.net/index.php/blindfold-tests/

Decisions, decisions ... had never seen this but a visit to discogs told me its an MJR LP originally and a stroll to the stacks showed me I do own it (thank god for their red/black spines and the fact that I was buying a lot of those so I put them on the shelf together). But now I see three unissued tracks. I should probably spring for this, just wish it were free shipping on Amazon.

Sad news, and I have to mention that my wife gave the news to me yesterday and I did not hear her clearly. I said "Don Was passed away? Did I ever tell you his current gig?!"

Absolutely ... and a Marsalis "discovery" IIRC.

You messed up the message by extending it to include discogs, by implication. Your assertion about Moerer and discogs has no basis in fact. A normal human being would say, "whoops fellas, sorry for connecting him to discogs. Guess I was wrong." But no, you double down on your assertion with zero evidence behind it again. And I'm the prick in this. Yeah right.

Dominion too.

What does this have to do with running discogs??? You seem to be asserting facts not in evidence and then doubling down with out anything to back it up.

Chuck, color me curious: what was the extent of your listening to the neo-boppers of the 80s and 90s, say? Did you retain anyone's CDs even if there's no one you listen to now? I am always curious how folks who were around "back when" reacted to revivalism. I would not have pegged you as even listening to much or any of that style at the time.

I would say two who apprenticed in Horace Silver's group together: Brian Lynch and Ralph Moore. Lynch remains a creative guy in a variety of settings, one of the better neo-boppers maybe because he has expanded his horizons of his endeavors? Moore is no different than before, nothing new there but I've always enjoyed his tone and style. He's made some nice records in the last few years since his return to active performing.

I'll bet there were still plenty of sucking up going on for those big-ass Dunkin' boxes. One thing I will say about Dunkin': the bagel box thing *sucks*. I recall a company rep always bringing that stuff in instead of the donut box. Do you have to be from the northeast or major metropolitan areas to understand what a bagel should be and what is most definitely NOT a bagel except in superficial terms like being round and having a hole in the middle?

Well you know 'em; I was just commenting on the photos of the donuts on the home page. Looks like a lot more effort goes into most of those offerings than Dunkin'. And of course way more than KK where they just go down a conveyor belt to be smothered in greasy liquified sugar. But it's hot! As far as apple fritters, yeah, anytime I'm in. I even get them at the local chain gas station with the daily delivery of bakery goods. How bad can a fritter ever be? It makes me wonder what one might be like from a place like Bunkie's. Probably best that I can't partake, I might have the same reaction as Jim to hot Krispy Kreme and end up OD-ing.

I understood Discogs is not effected and that Dave James must have been misinformed. My concern was the payment system used by discogs. I assumed that they at least operate the direct credit card payment system as its on their website and available for use in lieu of paypal. But you are saying they only get paid by seller post-sale. I guess that works to make sure you get your cut - if you don't they lose that major avenue for sales.

Is this really true currently? Because I see options to use a c/c directly and sometimes options for paypal only. I thought the c/c payment was a pass thru from discogs to seller, an option sellers can choose? I'll be happy to know if that is not the case but how does discogs get paid otherwise? Rely on sellers to "give back" their fee at the end of every month??