Dan Gould

I said this before in the other thread, but there's no way I am going to be in for 8 discs with so many performances of the same tunes, when I have the three disc BN and the Fresh Sounds two discs from the same time frame. And many of you knew me as Mogie Man at the old BNBB.

Cassette recordings can be really variable and in odd ways. I have used Jim's and Allen's help on a transfer of a recording of the Percy France quartet, giving me indications of what key they were playing in and what key was likely. Right in the middle of a section of tunes that needed a 1/2 step correction they played "A Train" in C, and this track needed no adjustment. How can that be, I thought. (And eventually I remembered I had another recording and verified that they do sound exactly the same.) And there was no doubt that the batteries on this recording device were not new or mostly fresh, as the first tune was a blues in F# which Allen told me they'd never play in that key, so it was 1/2 step off right at jump ... and the final two tracks were full steps off, with Percy sounding like Mickey Mouse on his last stage announcement, and Castle Rock sounding like he was playing an alto.

I think we bulldozed past or over an enormous part of the migration process ... AAJ. There was an invasion. Imagine if you were a denizen of Cheers and everybody knew your name, and all of a sudden Gary's Old Town Tavern folks filled the bar to overflowing. Carla didn't have time for a wisecrack put-down. And Gary turned out to be a bit of a dick and tossed both me and Chuck out on our butts. Also, to Norm's disappointment, ferns. My analogy has gone off the rails but you remember ... BNBB folks congregated there, didn't fit in necessarily, the owner was heavy-handed in moderation, banned me, banned Chuck, banned a few more I am sure. That's the missing link between BNBB going dark for a period of time, and the ultimate migration here.

OTOH David BN did "hire" him. It would be a BN decision either way and certainly with his input. (I put hire in scare quotes because to date, I don't know that we have any evidence via a release that he's done a damn thing yet.)

That may be true but I do recall the BNBB being down entirely, like dead URL for a period of time. I want to say that Lon hipped me to this place - just checking, I came in March 7 2003.

No the BNBB just disappeared one day. A fairly large group came over thru almost immediate email word of mouth and then there was another group that found their way in the next ... I don't know probably six months maybe a little longer.

Thanks. I can report now that my sister-in-law is on my shit list. And her sister isn't exactly happy either even if she won't use that terminology. Bob said to Patty that his temperature was 100.7. She heard "107" and remarkably, did not exclaim "A hundred and seven????!!!!" which would have cut this "crisis" off right at the start when Bob would have said "NO, One hundred POINT seven." Then my wife wouldn't have spent Friday feeling terrified about her brother's condition. Unbelievable. He's got a minor cold for all we know. I guess we'll have confirmation when he feels better, hopefully, in a few days.

My wife got a call from her sister today. Sister lives with their Mom and her sister in Jupiter Florida. Their brother lives nearby in Palm Beach Gardens. Seems that yesterday Bob ran into their mother at the local Sam's Club, gave her a hug and helped her load up. Today he had a temperature of 107. And apparently that didn't earn him a bed at the hospital. So in addition to being worried about their brother, now they have to worry about Mom and Aunt Lyn who are 78-80 years old. And Patty is morbidly obese so if she gets it from Bob thru Mom, who knows ...

that doesn't surprise me Larry - any fan of the music should be interested in the tales he has to tell. Nevertheless, "and the circus was back in town" was pretty harsh to my ears (I think that's what you wrote?). So I remain curious about that change and if he noticed any critical commentary then or later ...

Wow that is sad and surprising news. A very fine player in any context and that's way too young.

I am definitely interested though the hardcover price seems steep. A little concerned though how much is given over to his discography? I'd be interested in a meaty book about his career and everybody he ran into ... and whether he paid any attention to the critical voices, like Larry's, who rejected his later style.

55

That's good to know ... wouldn't mind some more Music School Nightmares, when he is able.

OH-VER RAY-TED.

I never bought the "sell out" accusation myself!

I purchased the Vee Jay 45; the Hollywood single I got from a kind soul on the board, unfortunately at least a couple of generations removed on cassette. I do not know of other 45s that weren't sourced from the LPs on BN and Argo.

Regarding Dylan, yes ... but. If this hypothetical book was about that specific time frame wouldn't it have to dig into the question of selling out? by the same token this Armstrong book is not a complete overview of his life but a very specific period.

Let's be realistic - the book covers the time he was "selling out" so naturally its a question to be dealt with within.

I've been real good in recent months about purchasing in general but the urge to find new material at the expense of any effort to re-engage with the archive is very real. And discovering that new material isn't helped by Hutch's 70s Blog thread or the What are you Listening To thread.

If it's about a compulsion toward acquisition and completist tendencies then a hard look inside and hard decisions to desist can probably be good. But I hope Lon that the joie de vivre of listening is never lost. A new online friend was telling me that his Fall semester was very difficult and energy-draining but that he listens as much as possible and that "jazz always satisfies."

I am thinking I don't really agree with this ... it feels like a fix for something that isn't broken. The leagues were separate, that's just a fact. I think both are "major" but combining them when they didn't compete against each other ... to what end? Easier to track counting stats? Does this mean a Negro League museum is no longer necessary? In comparing the leagues I think that the top players would have been great if there were no color line, and there are plenty of journeymen in both leagues who wouldn't have even gotten a cup of coffee if it were truly the best 800 ballplayers. By the same token that Ruth didn't face Satchel Paige, Josh Gibson didn't face Bob Feller either. Was a 4th starter in the Negro Leagues going to get lit up or lit up worse than a 4th starter in the majors? If the results can't be known why add one league's records to another's? I have to wonder what Buck O'Neil would say about this. Maybe I'm missing something. (A thorough review by Elias Sports does sound good to me though.)

I will cop to not being anything like the crazy loveable Sonny-philes here but Jeez, I'd like to think that even I would recognize mid-Sixties Sonny.

Excellent to hear Jack! I was concerned Boston was going to shut down again ...

https://www.mlb.com/redsox/news/hunter-renfroe-signs-with-red-sox If this means that we are out on Springer but they will spend money to get some decent starter like Kluber (isn't he top of the free agent pile?) then I am cool with it. Renfroe has hit 25+ home runs every year except this messed-up season, and he tied for lead with 13 OF assists. He also clearly has a swing made for Fenway. And, under team control for three years. What I am not convinced is whether he really needs a platoon partner. Springer hits everybody.