Dan Gould

I am pleased to report that Amazon got restocked and mine is en route. Still disappointed that they didn't secure copies for pre-orders up front though. edit to say that its actually out for delivery.

He might as well have left it that way because his response indicates that he didn't care to look into the mystery at all, certainly didn't listen to the samples since it ain't "stripped down Bird" and if its still not Bird it has to be recorded after whatever date Relaxin' at Camarillo appeared in the market. If it really is 1943 then it has to be Bird, and I don't recall ever hearing that "Relaxin' ..." wasn't a new tune at the time it was recorded.

Made a Run for the Border. I Was Canadian Went Further

Indeed!

Indeed. That all-blues recording kept the honking and squealing to a bear minimum. Might not have been any in fact. I noticed he did a two-tenor album with David Murray: https://www.discogs.com/Hal-Singer-Featuring-David-Murray-Challenge/release/4577162

I like that We Left the Light on For You because it fits a horror movie/haunted hotel genre perfectly. Some of these others are amusing for the twist in meaning but don't have obvious movie genres to be actual taglines.

Long productive life well-lived. I recently found a copy of a true obscurity (from what I can see), recorded in Africa in the early 1970s, called Soweto to Harlem. Listened on Sunday while driving between Naples and Tampa and its a great recording, all blues or gospel-blues and really strong playing. RIP.

Saul Wright! How about: They Made Money The Old Fashioned Way. They Earned It.

Very funny but I can't find the exact tagline that goes that way in the present tense form? Nevertheless

Two favorites from twitter We Left The Light On For You You Couldn't Eat Just One.

Saw this on Twitter and thought I'd see what this crowd comes up with. From the original tweet: take an ad slogan, put it in the past tense, and now you have a cryptic tagline for a new hit movie. #pasttenseaslogan The best I've thought of: Left Home Without It Virginia Was For Lovers what do you got?

What the hell? Amazon has that one listed as unavailable not as a pre-order, don't know if it will become available again?? Do I need to go to Ace directly for these?

OK that is good to know.

I have more than that ... here are the 1981 gigs I found thru the NYT and newspapers.com (the latter was mostly music listings for the NY Daily News). Some of these are probably NY Magazine too. I didn't save info on source for each listing found. You can see a lot of dates that the only known performer is Percy France. I also have information that he was a part of Joe Albany's New Yorkers but I don't actually have any listing that specifically has Percy in the group (or for that matter that listed any group member). So I made the decision to notate all JANY gigs on the list. And of these, January 23 1981 would be only gig that would have been simulcast on WKCR. (And may I add, it amazes me that WKCR did weekly simulcasts from the West End for at least 10 years, not to mention use the West End for benefit shows that went ten hours long, and it doesn't seem like anyone alive has cassettes of these broadcasts. DIME is utterly lacking in "WKCR" listings and I've never seen one in private lists of traders. And of course, Schaap is only digitizing the tenth broadcast of Bird's greatest passage of gas captured in a studio, with Phil explaining for 30 minutes after what it was that Bird ate that day.) Anyway here is what I got, known Percy France gigs in 1981: January 21-24 1981 – Joe Albany's New Yorkers (JANY) – The West End March 1 1981 – Sammy Price Two Tenor Boogie – Plainfield NJ Library w. Percy France & Eddie Chamblee June 27 1981 – Big Joe Turner – Tramps – 125 East 15th St w Percy France, Sammy Price (piano) Bill Davis (bass) Ronnie Cole (drums) June 29 1981 – Honky Tonk Part 3 (HTP3) – The West End July 3-5 and 8-11 – Big Joe Turner – Tramps w Percy France, Sammy Price (piano) Bill Davis (bass) Ronnie Cole (drums) (this engagement is continuation of June 27 show and group is assumed to be the same) August 17, 24, 31 1981 – HTP3 – The West End September 23-25, September 27 1981 – JANY – The West End September 28 1981 – HTP3 – The West End October 14-17 1981 – Big Joe Turner– Tramps w Percy France and Friends October 26 1981 – HTP3 – The West End December 7, 14, 21, 28, 31 1981 – HTP3 – The West End Per NYT, December 31 performance included Bob Neloms (piano) Bill Davis (bass) and a drummer to be determined. I just realized one drawback of the BRIAN system. I would be expected to repeat the address for each club appearance. In my own distillation I put addresses once and don't repeat it again.

What about known gigs that were provably simulcast on radio but no known tape exists? In addition to very partial info about tapes that I know exist, I have a list of known gigs that occurred in NYC at the West End when WKCR was simulcasting on Friday nights at 9 pm. I assume those should not be part of a proper discography. I also have a chronological list of gigs, taken from Newspapers.com, NYT, NY Magazine, etc. I was thinking about putting the gigs up separately on the planned website. (And, interestingly, there is maybe 1 advertised gig for which a tape exists. All the other advertised gigs are separate from known tapes.)

Is it considered valid in discography circles to include every known non-official aka private recording? Because the vast majority of Percy France recordings are private, whether audience or soundboard. I should probably think about experimenting on Brian soon before I get any more material to add into my haphazard word file.

Maybe this is even further off topic from Early Bill Evans, but I think Creed's influence is still felt in the rise of smooth jazz. If I may quote myself (and really how often can I possibly say that?) back in the 90s when I was young and more of a Wyntonite than I am now, I had a letter published by either DB or Jazz Times in which I called Smooth Jazz "the bastard child of Miles Davis and Creed Taylor". What can I say I liked the turn of phrase.) But who followed Alfred? The guy who ran Sharp Nine?

June 26 would mean you heard about it a month before I did and started this thread. So yes its possible that is the reason though I always thought that Amazon endeavored to secure sufficient product for pre-release orders. So did Ace run out or what? When i saw mine hadn't shipped I assumed that the issue was delayed for whatever reason.

Exciting game in Minnesota https://www.mlb.com/news/kenta-maeda-sets-twins-consecutive-strikeout-record But on that final play, why the heck would Milwaukee bring everybody in the infield without an IBB to set up the force at every base? If the catcher is standing and ready to stretch for that throw on the tapper, he's out, no doubt about it. I tried to pause the video for when he caught it and it was bang-bang, maybe out, maybe safe but with having to make the sweep tag ... just idiotic. Sorry Brewers fans.

What the heck? My Amazon order remains in We will email you when we have an estimated delivery date. status.

Excellent! I am partial to the Monks with Frankie.

Uh, Find & Replace? For my Percy work TT are totally unnecessary. I am not looking for different takes or issues. It's just collating dates/locations/musicians/selections, and if I used Brian, figuring out composers.

Thanks Mike I will at some point download it and play around a bit ... one thing that concerns me is that if it outputs as HTML that defeats (I think) one thought I have had which is incorporating snippets of recordings as an excepted "Fair Use" - for instance a la Benedetti I could include a snippet of just Percy's solo for one track per session. Doesn't seem like this is conducive though for all I know with an existing HTML page modern web creation allows incorporation of an audio player widget to be placed anywhere. Also not sure I want a single long scrollable page or not ... I just gotta see how it works in comparison to what I've compiled so far.

I think the Sounds in the second 10 makes sense. And I think Ike, for influence over A&R belongs in the top 10. But for stars I think Byrd ought to be in the top 10 due to his work in the pre-fusion era plus his fusion successes. Hutch and Hill belong for their position with the cognoscenti. I would drop Coles down from #2 here, which would be 12 overall? No he can be #20. Ike fits better at 2, or move Blue to this spot for all of those great Silver recordings by the best front line the band ever had.