Dan Gould

Sorry to interrupt this discussion, but here're my random reactions to the answers: #2- Well, what can I say, I am now zero for two when a Mosaic cut that I own is used on a BFT. ARGH! #3 - This cut definitely pushes me more towards the Elvin Mosaic. I've hesitated due at least partially to the era, tempered a bit by the fact that the LP with Morgan is the only one of his I have yet to hear, so its something I need to get on, and this track tells me there's other good stuff here, too, so thanks John for opening my eyes to that. #5 - Well, now I can say that I've heard Jim's playing, and I am certainly impressed. However, I do not find Jim's post regarding his own track (in the discussion thread) to be just a bit of fun. I'm sorry, but I do not. I think that it violates the spirit of the blindfold test and the joint discussion/debate/figgurin' out that takes place in the discussion thread. Its been said over and over again, if you know what it is, just say that you do or post a link. That doesn't mean that you should put up disinformation as a joke. Maybe I am overstating it, but personally I don't think it was right. Jim should have simply said, 'I have this one." My two cents, fwiw. #6 & #15 - Lucky and Art Pepper are two guys I have slept on and that clearly must come to an end soon! And finally, #7 - I said that I "wonder if its Slide Hampton, but the instrumentation doesn't match his latest" or words to that effect, so I am simply going to close by saying "Wooo Hooo!! I don't care if it was a lucky guess, I got one!!!!!" Thanks again John for an enjoyable disc, all things considered.

Exactly! Mine are just friendly suggestions!

I'm sorry, Ubu, and I didn't wish to come across as the forum scold. But Geoff made no effort to invite the members of the community to add their own "undervalued" albums. It seems to be all about him. He doesn't ask for our additions and he doesn't even invite commentary. He apparently expects us to sit back and wait and read his musings. Sounds like material for a blog to me. If I list undervalued jazz albums, it will be in an inclusive thread that invites people to join in. Not a "look, read and learn" lecture.

Geoff, are you declaring that this thread is to be dedicated to your list, so you can talk and talk and we can all say, "Please sir, may I have another?" This isn't the way a discussion forum works. How about starting things in a slightly more inclusive way, like "Undervalued Jazz Albums"? Then post your first one and invite others to join in. You know? Give and take? Discussion? Otherwise, I suggest you start your own blog if you want to favor someone with your pronouncements.

The last that was heard was the Michael was "working" on a way to release Sounds material. It would not be a full Mosaic set. This info came out right around the start of the Mosaic Select program, or maybe it was before, so the conclusion has been that the Sounds are slated for a Select or maybe two. When that happens or how solid that assumption is is an open question.

that's the thing here-Milan and Marcus are possibly the most remote folks other than the guys down under). Not to be cold or inconsiderate, but it seems silly to hold everything because it takes so long to reach them. In the future, I think that an effort should be made to ship to the outer reaches even earlier than the Europe/US ship schedule. Then there will be a little more time for delivery to reach them. But beyond that ...

I was thinking "Jazz Pie Club" might be it ...

This was discussed before John posted his answers. The average has been about ten days from the start of the discussion to the revealing of the answers and it seems to have worked so far. But its unfortunate that your mail service is so slow. I mean, this one started in Europe, it didn't ship from the States- why did it only show up two days ago?

An interesting concept, though I wonder how many would actually join the discussion. It seems like the BFs have outrun the AOTW in popularity, and sometimes the next Album doesn't even get named, kind of like the problem we had at Board Krypton. And that's for jazz! But I'd keep an eye on them, sure. Might even pick one, if someone were to give me the shoulder-tap

The Giacomo Gates CD lists both Miles and Vinson as composers. Guess they covered all the bases but at least they didn't forget Eddie!

Glad you're OK, Alex.

If I could add just a bit: Giacomo Gates is a wonderfully talented singer, and on his first album, Blue Skies on DMP, he recorded "Four," a marvelous performance. If you're curious about it, Jim .... just say the word.

B3ER Wins the contest!!! By my watch, number 100,000 came at approximately 12:52 PM Eastern time, or just before noon, Central time, where our exalted Board owner lives. Amazing! What's your secret, Jim, and how come you can't use it on the Michigan lottery?

And John, thanks a lot for that LD quote.

I'd say "better sellers" is right, but not "best"-I'd reserve that for the later 60s soul jazz like Alligator Boogaloo.

Our fine board moderator predicted noon today-so if you can keep an eye on things today you should see it happen. After all, he's privy to the daily post averages so if he extrapolates that it will happen today, I think it will.

Chicken Shack, too! Did I get all your aliases? Well, hope all y'all have a great 6th birthday party! Think of anymore great practical jokes to pull? Maybe call Jim Alfredson, ask if he has B3 in a can?

Before Greg painted the wall:

I would say that most of the time, my vinyl ebay purchases and have been appropriately graded; and when honest mistakes occur, every dealer except one has done something about it, always leaving me feeling as if I had been made at least 90% whole: 1) Offer a partial refund because you wouldn't have bid so high for a VG instead of an M-. 2) Offer a full refund, just return the LP (at my expense) 3) Full refund, including all shipping costs. 4) Full refund, and KEEP the LP Obviously I like #4 the best, and it has happened more than once! In short, it always pays to express your disappointment before leaving feedback. I must also admit that I am more tolerant of misgraded LPs because of the fact that I always dump the audio into the PC and manually de-click it, so as long as there are no really bad spots like skips or scratches that won't play through, I know I can get a decent burn out of it, it just takes a little time.

When I did weekend overnights on the radio, it was a real problem "coming down" because I was switching between "regular" hours during the week to staying up all night on the weekends, so I really needed to sleep but was all keyed up from being on the air. Part of that was, I developed a pretty serious phobia about messing up and having "dead air" such that I would quite often have unpleasant dreams in which the music CD would be winding down and I'd have *nothing* cued up and ready to go. Or, the music would be fading out but the remote start buttons wouldn't work and I'd have the dreaded dead air. Then I'd wake up and discover that I was frantically manipulating the buttons on the clock radio, trying to get the damn CD to start. The one drawback to my radio career (aside from the pay, hours, and job security).

About three years ago, Bill Fenohr nabbed a copy of this rarity, and shocked me by not waiting til we arranged a trde, he just sent a burn with is Christmas wishes. What a guy- I miss Bill. But its great that this material is coming out, its practically a missing Horace Silver date, since Blue Mitchell and Junior Cook are the front line. For some reason I am blanking on the pianist but its a terrific hard bop/soul jazz date. Workshop Jazz was Gordy's half-hearted attempt at the jazz market. The very first release was supposed to be the Four Tops, who actually started as a vocal quartet and got help along the way from Billy Eckstine. That date did come out with extra material on a Motown CD a few years ago. Interesting to hear. Workshop Jazz also had dates by George Bohannon, who I believe ended up in LA; Johnny Griffith who was a member of the Funk Brothers and died just before Standing in the Shadows of Motown was released.

Well I don't know about cats, but my dog Coltrane looks like this when I play Ballads or the Johnny Hartman CD.

John, I do believe you are overstating the overlap just a bit, at least when the next BFT originates in the States. First, US compilers are trying to ship to Europe, etc., a week in advance. And on top of that, while delivery may take only a day in Europe, in the States, its typically a day only if its within the same metropolitan area. Otherwise, its anywhere from three days to even 8 or 9. Someone in Miami got their disc four days ahead of mine, and I am directly north of Miami and got the disc from the same person, presumably shipping at the same time. So, it seems to me that if US compilers give a 7 day advance on outside shipping, and European compilers do the same thing, there would still be at least a week of "Answer Discussion". Sometimes that's enough, sometimes it isn't. But I do think we could tighten things up a bit without intruding on the attention each BFT gets. As for the topic of this thread, I do think that what's needed isn't so much a thread but something one of us should write up that B3-er can post on the forum, just as he's posted a "Political Forum Rules" on that page. Then it will be prominently displayed, maybe with a pinned message at the top which says "Look for the FAQ page at the top of this forum" or something like that. Your list of Qs and As was pretty good, John!

This kind of got buried in another thread, and since its probably some of my best work, I gotta put it here. "This guy's got his arm around my shoulder, and Whitey's on the Moon." Edit: (If you've missed it before, that's our own Rooster with Andrew Hill)

Andrew would be the guy saying "This guy's got his arm over my shoulder and Whitey's on the Moon"