Dan Gould

I think it should remain the exclusive privilige of the Test Master to start the discussion thread!!! Discussion for BF #s 1-3 were started by someone else. Sangrey, Couw and Randy started their own discussion threads. The question is, why should it be up to the test giver to say, "now, you may begin discussing"? You send out your discs. Some get them early, some get them later. Your helpers get them extra early. Its hoped that the people who get it earliest won't jump the gun too much, but why do you need permission once its received and listened to? And here I thought that I was the one who was trying to micromanage this ...

I guess you can call me "good field, no hit"

Interesting. Over to you, Chuck.

Well, it is a little startling to see such a name but I guess we can get used to it. Since there's been great confusion regarding the gender of board member Bev, dare I ask?

So now he's made a little spot for us and everything is honky-dory. Pretty quick to forget his other acts of censorship, like deleting Ghosts spot-on definition of what he is concerned about-the AAJ community, not the jazz community. Of course, it makes no nevermind to me-I'm banned! Too bad I'm not blocked, too!

Sorry guy, but any of those Europeans who've had a headstart can get the discussion going when they want. Not up to the test giver once it leaves his hands.

When DEEP came here from the BB We Shan't Speak It's Name, there was a bit of an uproar with a number of people objecting to him. As a result of that uproar, and in anticipation of a promised board software update to include an "ignore" function, DEEP to it upon himself to stay in his appointed domain. But now he's loose.

You know, it definitely makes me wish that I had gone ahead and tracked down a copy to make sure the info was correct before repeating it to Weinstock. Thanks for going straight to the source, Chuck. Mike, what do you have to say in your defense?

Please expand on this with specifics.

I think Randy's discussion petered out because in the end all items were identified in the first round, so I guess the delay is unavoidable and not a problem anyway. I would suggest shipping US discs at the same time, I don't think there's been a need to do separate waves.

I recommend Braden's work on Criss Cross. Chris Potter tends toward the more modern, while Jesse Davis is quite nice on his Concord CDs, but in a more retro fashion. In the slightly older category, Ralph Moore is pretty nice, too.

Yeah, what's up with THAT? Hey, I can make a short list too! look: Barbara Bel Geddes Jim Davis Patrick Duffy Linda Gray Larry Hagman Steve Kanaly Ken Kercheval Hey, if you're going to mention Cliff Barnes, the least you can do is mention his sister, Pam Barnes Ewing, AKA, Victoria Principal. (Yes, that's really her) And if you're going to mention Steve Kanaly you ought to list his bedmate, Lucy Ewing, AKA Charlene Tilton (before we found out she was also his niece!)

I take it this is different from condensed milk, right?

Wouldn't the question of its worth be dependent on whether or not he is channeling Stan Getz on this one?

I tend to agree with Chris, particularly when one considers how rare Alfred and Frank recorded vocalists, putting out vocalists of undeniable quality but questionable jazz content as Norah and Al Green (no way will I ever put "vocal quality" and "Van Morrisson" together!). Also, the thing about Norah supporting reissues-I'd only see that as the case if the reissue program doubled its output or more obscure reissues appeared. But that hasn't happened. Her pop success is going straight to Capitol's bottom line. The advantage for Blue Note is that it may help cover the cost of the Wynton signing.

Chuck, Did you get my detailed PM (or maybe it was a board E-mail) regarding the answer to your Weinstock questions? I wanted to make sure you got your answer even though it wasn't that illuminating.

It ought to be noted here that earlier I noticed someone posted a reference to "ad hominem" attacks in defending Ricci. I replied by quoting his "twerp" comment and asking, what was that about "ad hominem" attacks. He has now deleted that message and disabled my account. Now, I am not surprised at my banning; I welcome it. But his latest act of censorship is telling.

Cool. Glad I posted.

Ed, I am not sure if PMs are working, did you receive mine? Thanks

I apologize to all here who feel that my outburst reflects poorly on Organissimo. The comments were certainly intended as my own, even if I was objecting to Ricci's censorship of any mention of "competing" BBs. I realize that the best advice I can accept would be to wait thirty minutes before posting responses to messages that disturb me. I will try to do so in the future. I do however think it is necessary to recap the exact course of events that happened at AAJ: 1. I started a similar "Bob Weinstock & Me" thread at AAJ. 2. Ricci saw it, changed the title to help it get responses. 3. After a couple of replies, I DID thank people and ask for further help. 4. The thread then degenerated into a "pissing contest" between Chris A., hardbop and Kevin B. regarding Prestige being called the "Junkie Label" and I realized that there was little help that was forthcoming. 5. Ricci then posted a message in which he said that he "wasn't dogging Dan" but then proceeded to attack me for not returning to the thread or thanking people for their help. This was completely uncalled for, for these reasons: a. It happened around the holidays when time spent online might naturally be less. b. I DID thank people before the thread degenerated. c. Is it not both bothersome and loathsome for a board owner to post such a "I'm not dogging Dan, but here I go and dog him" BS message? So, yes, I posted the Mother of All F-You Messages. Now, with the technical problem here, I found out about Ricci's new rule. After our board came back up, I found a message from Moose referencing me being called "twerp" and I went back to AAJ to investigate. That is when I posted the two messages. They did not attack AAJ or members thereof. They attacked the owner of the site, who in his message declaring that he had "run off that twerp, Dan Gould" had shown his true colors and his true purpose for his "I'm not dogging Dan" message. The man is a world class asshole and I said so. Again, I apologize if it has brought on a flame war. I have not gone to AAJ yet this morning to see what has happened. I didn't think there would be any great problem, as the last time I was online on Sunday, I saw there were 25-30 page views of my two threads but no replies.

My feelings exactly, Mark (and Ghost)! "Brothers" can razz each other til the cows come home, but when someone else does it, we don't stand for that shit!!! Frankly, its unbelievably petty and lame for AAJ to do this and I hope many others follow Cheney's lead and delete those bookmarks.

You know, this wouldn't surprise me for the Yanks' payroll to go to $190 million dollars. Soriano has a tremendous amount of upside they'd be forsaking, but who cares to get A-Rod, right? Of course, that's another righthanded power hitter in a lefthander's park. He'd have hit sixty, easy, in Fenway. In the Bronx, he's gotta hit it a long, long way to get it out anywhere other than straightaway left. Y'all realize that it would be absolute insanity to leave Jeter at shortstop and force A-Rod to play third, right? I mean, every statistical measure shows that Jeter's range was never all that great and its been on a steady decline, while A-Rod is the best in the business defensively. If anything, Jeter should go to second or third.

Thanks! I gotta get offline so I can start chopping veggies before she gets home!!

Well, the interview is done and it was quite interesting. Bob's a highly opinionated guy and quite willing to share stories and info. In fact, he corrected several misconceptions, some of which were presented here or in the AAJ thread. However, I can't maintain my "exclusive" by sharing all the details immediately. I did answer one question though, in this thread: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...=0entry118845 Thanks again to everyone for their suggestions, and I will keep you all apprised of what happens when I try to get this published.