AndrewHill

Is that a 'new' cover for machine Gun? The original cover is way more badass. It looks like UMS is becoming the new place for Sun Ra reissues. Does that mean that Evidence has officially stopped reissuing Sun Ra albums?

I like Medina quite a bit, but I like everything from the Hutch-Land collabortion. I second Total Eclipse, very nice date, but probably harder to find than Medina. I was lucky enough to find a copy of Total Eclipse used for $10 a couple of years ago, so miracles do happen. If you don't have Patterns, that's another nice one from that era. Again, if you can find these at reasonable prices, go for it! I would suggest checking used cd stores as I've seen Patterns at least three times over the years.

Well ok, maybe 'stab' wasn't the right choice of words, but I did have the cd, and dumped it almost immediately (I just have a real hard time with the vocals and the overall disco-funk-whatever you want to call it sound-to each his own). But if in fact that's what Bartz intended to do, then who am I to argue? Take it off the list. Still don't care for the album. I did admit that I've never heard the McLean, but I have New Grass, and because I am a fan of Ayler, I've decided to keep it-I give it a try every so years and I can't get past the first track on that one either. Love the album cover on that one though.

I know Chewy will disagree but Bartz's Music is My Sanctuary seems to be a lame stab at commerial success.

Depends on how you look at it, but some people feel that Ayler's New Grass was a stab at commercialism.

That's what I've heard...well haven't heard. Don't know who owns the LP, but my feeling is that we won't see a cd reissue ever of this one. Can anyone provide an idea of just how bad this one is, from a listening experience? Didn't it pretty much ended McLean's recording career for some time after this one?

Sabu made better percussion albums during this period, such as "Sorcery" on Columbia and "Safari with Sabu" on Vik (RCA subsidiary). Being into percussion, I have both "Orgy in Rhythm" and "African Beat" by Art Blakey. I like the latter more for an overall complete listening experience. Orgy is good but it's a bit much at one sitting. Still never heard his "Holiday for Skins" albums. The Solomon Ilori was a disappointment, but the three bonus tracks on there - almost a complete album from a later jazzier session - are the reason I've held onto it. Being heavily into latin jazz, two Blue Notes that disappointed me are "The Latin Bit" by Grant Green" and "Bossa Nova Bacchanal" by Charlie Rouse. Both records overall sound like they're going through the motions to crank out a quick latin record. Both have a couple of tracks that I like more than others, but I don't spin them often. Well, Alfred Lion should have founded a sub-label for those records. It was nice that he gave Sabu a record date, but it's not jazz, but Afro-Cuban percussion and thus might easily alienate a hard core jazz fan. On Afro-Cuban terms, it's a good and unique album, the more so for Arsenio Rodriguez. I like them all, think the Sabu is better than the Blakey's 'cause the latter have a little too much of a jam session approach. The African Beat was marred a little by Blakey pounding too much; The Ilori is very nice, but it's Highlife music, not jazz. Agree on the Green and Rouse bossa nova Lps - with a more authentic rhythm team these could have been much better. These were two that disappointed me. Agree too on the Green, I had that one for awhile and found it to be a bit boring and sold it. The Rouse though, I find to be enjoyable in spots. Maybe its just me, but Rouse sometimes seems to be a second or so before the beat. maybe that's what he intended, but it sounds strange, especially on the first track. The bonus track is killer. The real surprise from the Blue Note Bossa Nova period was Quebec's Bossa Nova Soul Samba- now that album kicks ass!

That would be my choice too, and that's not an easy choice to make. I think the Bohemia date is special because there's an added sense of warmth to the date, and to hear Kenny introduce his own tune is kinda neat.

Free for All is intense, and besides Blakey, I think Shorter majorly adds to that intensity.

Some of you have mentioned Young's Of Love and Peace as not being some of your favorites, but I like this disc quite a bit. I like the set-up with two drummers and in fact, I don't even mind Eddie Gale. I think he fits right in the vortex of sound that they create, especially on the first track. The only tune that seems to slightly suffer is the Miles' cover. But other than that, I put this one right up there with Mothership. These albums are badass!

I just remembered two other BN's that did absolutely nothing for me: Turrentine's Blue Hour and Rough and Tumble. I Do like Unit Structures, Go, and the Scorpian-Live at the Cadilac Club.

I'm wth you on Palo Congo. I think for the same reasons as you, I hunted high and low for this one (before the domestic reissue) and as soon as I tracked down the TOCJ, I listened to it, couldn't finish it and promptly sold it. Orgy in Rhythm (along with Drums around the Corner and Holiday for Skins for that matter) seem to be for percussion specialists. I like the last song on Orgy (and I usually just skip to that tune and then take it off) but I still have these disks and I certianly wouldn't call them the worse. I can listen to some of Byrd's A New Perspective, until it gets a little too 'churchy' then I usually take it off. Probably my least favorite BN for me, and this may shock some, but I found Jimmy Smith's I'm Movin' On an absolute bore.

I almost exclusively by used anymore (I'm tired of peeling those absurd BN stickers off top of the cds), and when I do that, I find it a lot easier to get to it (usually right there in the car). But when I do buy new, its usually when I go out of town to stores that I only go to once in a great while, and I normally come home with anywhere between 15-20 cds) As it goes with jazz cds, it seems that if you see something you want, and you don't buy it right there and then, you are taking the chance that it will be gone and never restocked again or it goes OOP (this has happened so many times, yet I still don't seem to learn my lesson-regrets that are too many to mention here). Nonetheless, its caused a major backup in cd listening (I just got to some Steve Lacy that I bought nearly three years ago!) But when money's tight, however, its always nice to have a stack of brand new cds to open

Sure, and you can see her point - at least I can. I mean, the whole point of Free music is that you throw away (many of) the rules previously governing Jazz and attempt to play within a new(ish) frame (make one up). If someone is used to these rules - and nothing else - well, then, it sounds like chaos. Because people aren't acclimatized to it. Of course, then you have all the games that people play around reception, perception and content - which delays that. My sense is that 50 years is about the time it takes to sort these games out. That is to say, Jazz gets acclimatized - over time. And I think the time is about now. But, if she's your wife... Simon Weil Oh yeah, I totally see where she's comning from. I mean luckily she does not give me a hard time when I have something on when she's around (she likes McLean's Swing Swang Swingin) so I really have no complaints. She does not understand how I can sit through a disc by Brotzmann or later Cecil Taylor though, so I just play those when she's not around. Simple solution and we both walk a away happy

I know its a miracle!

Yeah, Bill Russell's there praising Lebron. Perfectly fine with me.

THANK YOU!!!!!!! Long time coming for us!!!!!!!!

Yeah, reality setting here, but I'm going to soak up the monent

Don't know the details either but we are going CRAZY HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HHHHUUUUUGGGGGEEEEE WIN tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The CAAAVVVVSSSSSSSSSS are going to the FFIIIIN NNNNNAAAALLLLLSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Used to think that 24-7 Spyz was pretty cool in its time (although I never thought, wow there's black people in the band). I just thought they had a unique sound that was cool. Funny enough, Vernon Reid honed his chops with Ronald Shannon Jackson and the Decoding Society back in the early 80's. Living Colour was a very very good band in its day and Corey Glover was an excellent singer. Not once though, did I think "wow, what a great black band". I only have the highest respect for them as musicians and it does not make a difference what color they are.

POD is one of th greatest jazz albums of the 60's. Richard Davis's contributions alone is huge on that disc.

I have 'Sits in w/ O. Peterson' and its nice enough. The Penguin guide seems to praise that one as one of his finest. Besides that, I have the 'At the Hi Hat v.II' and I actually like that one a bit more. Go figure. I consequently sold the 'Sunny Side Up' cd because it really didn't do a whole lot for me.

You're right, it didn't happen tonight for the Indians, Detroit 9-5. But the Cavs still have a major shot (pun intended) to end it tonight. Interesting perspective about Cleveland suffering from the lack of a shot clock...I think you are absolutely correct!! It drained the audience of any enthusiasm!

Yes, there's a delay, but they're tied at the half!