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Sorry, it's been a while since I listened. But as I recall everything that I heard by both groups, under their own names, was good. They specialized in Bach and Bach-sounding arrangements, with rhythm section, of course. I suggest searching Amazon.

MISSING PERSONS, by Stephen White It's a NY TIMES bestseller, is good, but it's hard to get into after the LINCOLN LAWYER.

re: e-bills I've paid all monthly statements and biannual auto insurance, e.g. water, electric, auto insurance, internet, credit card, etc., via electronic funds transfer, including bank draft, for the past four or five years without any hassle.

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...and their offshoot, or something or other, The Double-six of Paris.

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Stop, have a seat, relax, put your feet up, have a shot/toke, have a good chuckle.

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Welk introducing Take The A Train: "Take A Train"

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Which brings up another point (in my mind at least) that, eventhough many pop players and performers may be inferior or less of a musician than jazzers and classical players, it doesn't necessarily mean that their goals are ignoble and/or commercial. However, when you have a public that refers to such types as "good/great musicians," it can breed animosity (and depression) from really good players, that have to compete with the aforementioned for work and the limelight. There's a different standard among the "poppers." . In "olden" times the standard and goal was to strive for good musicianship, for the public's acknowledgment of it at least. Now, good musicianship is irrelevant, probably isn't even recognized by pop culture. Granted it takes more than musicianship to make music, but it shouldn't be ignored and/or not used to make pop music, IMHO. This has brought about the advent of the pseudo musician, singer, performer, pseudo "star." He/they no longer have to confine their efforts to the home, now he can go public, on stage and draw all the attention and money. Amateurs and hams rule pop and the general public now.

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Not to hijack, but Welk always had fine players, singers and dancers; kinda barf city/galvanized, but they were topnotch.

Agreed, some people have a tendency to go into denial, get over-sensitive, or defensive about it. Call it like it is. Scum is scum, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Really? You think that Chicago formed because they saw a huge untapped market for jazz and classical influenced pop groups featuring a horn section? Isn't it possible for a pop group to make music for extra-commerical reasons? Obviously the Beatles and the Stones made tons of money. Do we doubt their motives as well? How about the Grateful Dead? And what about artists who continue to tour and produce albums for years after they've made more than enough money to live on for the rest of their lives? Are they still only in it for the money? Giving them the benefit of a doubt, Chicago did what they did because they liked it, pop art. And Yes, I think that their primary reason for forming the group was to make money, commercial. Some people just like to play, sing, pick, bang, blow horns, and don't particularly care what they're producing. I, for one, used to love blowing my horn for commercial/jingles/ads. re: The Stones, Beatles, Dead----All pop(ular) art stuff. And, after they made it big, they continued to perform and make big money because there was/is big money for others in promotion and sales. I don't doubt anybody's motives. Then there always ego....

I've never heard the word ginormous before. re: "one toke over the line" Wonder what other reference that phrase could have, other than drugs? It must have one because it's doubtful that Welk would've allowed a drug reference on his show.

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Our tax dollars at work. [When getting a blowjob make sure that the blow-er doesn't get carried away. ]

Y'all're up shit creek.

So where does Trane's A LOVE SUPREME fall? It's sold, and is selling, a bunch of copies, as is/did Miles' KIND OF BLUE. Commercial implies intent moreso than sales success; did you record something to express yourself as an artist or to make bread, to fulfill something already in demand? We're definitely talkin two commercials here. e.g. Anything that CHICAGO recorded, whether it was popular and sold or not, was commercial.

I almost asked, "You ain't from around here, are you, son?"

Is that anywhere near the drumstick?

This post splits a lot of hairs with me. I prefer a more generalized concept of "commercialism." Maybe it became a dirty term about the same time that "prostitution" did? However, I don't let the term(s) interfere with what I like, and at the same time, I recognize and don't deny that some music that I like is commercial. I have heard it said that Goodman's music/swing was the business side of jazz, which could be construed as "commercial." I tend to agree, eventhough I highly respect his musicianship.

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