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I have sent PM Daniel, so I should see my name here soon. Having just posted comments for BFT 11 and offered distribution help here, I'm feeling virtuous. I've never known who Freddie Freeloader was, or is. Now I'll put my name onto the long list of those waiting to compile too.

I have looked at other people’s comments hardly at all, although I did see something about Elvin for 1. A lot are far from my usual ambit but some nice moments which I am enjoying. Disc 1. 1. St Louis Blues. Because of the tympani the name of Max Roach came into my mind – based on what I’m not sure. No idea of pianist or bass player. 2. I know this tune but haven’t got this version. Flugelhorn or trumpet? Some strange noises in there. No clue as to who is playing. 3. I don’t go too much on vocals usually but I liked this, and the same goes for the electric piano. 4. Enjoyed this too, but still no guesses even. 5. Does nothing for me. 6. Is the tune You Belong to Me? – could it be Mose Allison? 7. The pianist’s vocal noises sounded akin to Keith Jarrett’s but I’m not familiar enough with his playing to guess. But if it is, Charles Lloyd on tenor? 8. “Baltimore Oriole” – impressive performance – clueless again. 9. No ideas – the language sounds as if it could be Native American of some kind to my unaccustomed ears. 10. At least I know the tune I think – Un Poco Loco. Can’t guess the players. 11. I Got Plenty o’ Nothin’. No guesses. 12. No ideas 13. Ditto 14. Not my kind of jazz – heavy off-beat. 15. Solo piano – don’t know what it is or who. 16. Not familiar with this one either, or the players as far as I know, apart from Stafford James. Leader’s “singing” is pathetic – “inspired” by A Love Supreme? Disc 2. I’m not going to attempt detailed comments on each track! None of them allow me to make any guesses but I did enjoy listening nonetheless. 3. and 5. are Now’s the Time of course but I can’t guess who is playing on either. 10. is C Jam Blues, 11. Oh, Lady Be Good and 18. Undecided. I’ve heard the one about the piano drinking before but can’t remember who is performing that either - droll. Not quite all blues. Thanks for a stimulating pair of discs, RDK. This BFT does make me listen to things I ordinarily wouldn’t hear. While I don’t like some, the nice surprises more than make up for that.

I just makes the rest of us who do play the game feel virtuous, self-satisfied and holier-than-thou. But if it makes some feel uncomfortable perhaps there could be a three strikes and you're out rule?

Happy Birthday, Chuck - many happy returns. Only a youngster yet I see

jazzman4133 - well, fancy meeting you here!

The Man I Love - still good. It is a revelation! Thanks again, Couw.

Playing now - great! Not what I expected at all, from Romania. Now on the third hearing. Trying other tracks. Thanks for pointing the way.

Downloading Perdido now Couw - takes a long time for me with dial-up only. Looking forward to the great revelation!

Thanks, RDK - I got the disks on Monday morning but having been quite busy lately I've only listened once so far. Scanned quickly through preceding comments as I don't have much idea about any tracks. I will give it another spin soon and try to come up with something.

Earliest I could find is Monty Alexander's [Cobilimbo] but that was recorded in Germany September 8 - 9, 1977. "Vincent Taylor plays double tenor steel pans, hand crafted by himself." I also found a reference to Roland Prince's [Color Visions] released in 1976 - Art Jardine on steel drums. Doubt if it fits the criteria (plural).

Wonderful! Straight into my (small but growing) collection of Ronnie Ross stories and background. Thanks for the post.

Well done indeed! It looks even better than the original I had in my hands at the British Library Sound Archive and from which I took the B & W copy. The colour on the original had faded I should think as it is now getting on in years and perhaps hadn't been stored out of the light. Strongly agree that the album should be re-issued too.

RDK - just signed up via PM. Thanks.

I have listened several times now and I'm none the wiser. I've only seen that 1. is Jaco from other peoples comments and that Rahsaan is in there somewhere. The nearest I can come to a guess at anything is perhaps David Sanchez and Danilo Perez for 2. Sure I've heard the tenor player but just not sure who it is. Floundering completely with the rest, unless Rahsaan is 3. A lot is not in the areas I inhabit so can't comment at all, but I did find it nice listening. I particularly liked 5. - we had a background vibes player not long ago - I wonder if it's the same one. 14. is "Confessin'" I think - sounds nice but no idea who. Thanks for a challenging disk - it's been fun. Now I'll read the comments in full.

Jim - And the other tune that's going round in my head is "Temptation". What do you think? Is it that he's not playing the tune really, just alluding to it, whatever it is?

Damn! I was relying on you! This mystery must be solved. I'll keep on till I find out what that tune is. "Lover" came to mind but it's not that. It's a waltz I think. Watch this space.

Having heard about Tal Farlow's huge hands, I noticed them in photographs. I also read that some guitar players have the tendon between thumb and forefinger cut so as to reach further, like Tal - don't know how true it is and if so, who. I remember hearing Joe Pass, interviewed on the BBC a long time ago, saying if memory serves, that he used found strings which gave that rich sound rather than flat stringss for a harsher quality. For pure enjoyment, I would listen to Tal as the first choice guitarist.

I thought the first might be "Undecided" but your "I wish" is more like it. Is there hint too of "It Ain't Necessarily So" soon after? Struggling but thought I could hear a bit of "Firm Roots" by Cedar Walton but this seems unlikely. I couldn't pick out any others but he plays quite a number of his own licks too.

Jim - the track I meant was "The Gringo" but sure it's not "Delilah" that Horace quotes near the begining of his solo - sixteen bars. Still not sure what it is but it is very familiar. I will have a go at "Kiss Me Right" quotes soon - perhaps I can do better there. Are you a fan of Dexter with all his quotes then? I remember listening to a whole album - I think it was Gabe Baltazar - with not a single quote that I could identify until almost the very end when he put in that hoary old chestnut "In an English Country Garden". Only "Entry of the Gladiatiors" beats this.

Well, it's April 26 now so here is my reaction. I have only got the LP so no bonus tracks, just the four. I've looked at AMG - no bonus tracks shown there. I agree that the first track is the highlight of the album. The title give it a certain something I guess but the music is energetic and there are good solos throughout. However, while Blue and Junior continue to solo well on the other three tunes, I can't say that I like Horace's contributions all that much. His solos seem disjointed, to lack continuity and cohesion. There are lots of quotes and they basically sound like a lot of odd bits cobbled together, if that's not too strong. There's a long quote I think at the beginning of his solo on the third tune - is it "Delilah"? I know Horace is capable of much better than this. IMO this was on the whole one of his off nights. Spoils the album for me I'm afraid.

This is not going to help but I remember struggling with two albums by Jim Hall - The Winner, which was a quartet, and Jazz Guitar, a trio session. It turned out they were both the same tracks but the first had Larry Bunker added on drums, dubbed in later, in London I believe. However, - Kessel - the track lengths are very similar in most cases and as published timings are always suspect - quite often wildly wrong - I would imagine it's the same material.

Announcment! With much help from here and elsewhere I have been able to more or less finalize the Ronnie Ross discography which can now be seen at the Ronnie Ross Homepage website. Many thanks to all those who gave advice and assistance.

I've listened twice already but all at sea. I will lurk for a while - see what others say. I know the first tune and the last tune at least! Lots of interest in there.

Tom - thanks - I will get listening.

As a mere "member", I started out reading this thread with a fixed view. Then I went this way, that way, the other way - you guys come up with some cogent arguments. Now I just say "anything goes!" The less rules the better.