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Colette Magny's series of records for Le Chant Du Monde with collaborators including Barre Phillips, Beb Guérin, François Tusques, Noël McGhie, Workshop de Lyon, and Dharma Quintet would qualify. They're interesting documents and less chanteuse-focused than her earlier work. Jayne Cortez: duo with Richard Davis on Strata-East, "Celebrations and Solitudes," and her later Firespitters group (three LPs with Denardo Coleman, Bern Nix, Jamaladeen Tacuma, et al.) are cornerstones in this area. Also, her performance with Clifford Thornton on side two of his "Communications Network" is worth hearing. K. Curtis Lyle "The Collected Poem for Blind Lemon Jefferson" on Mbari (feat. Julius Hemphill) is a wonderful recording. Barry Wallenstein's two LPs on AkBa with Cecil McBee, Stanley Cowell, Charles Tyler, et al. are worth checking out. Isolated tracks but LeRoi Jones (Amiri Baraka) with the New York Art Quartet and Sunny Murray are iconic. Maybe "jazz-adjacent" but of interest is The Jihad album "Black and Beautiful," street corner rap/soul with free-ish embellishments, featuring & released by Jones. Hart Leroy Bibbs with Sunny Murray on the Shandar & Pathé LPs is wonderful tool. Sunny's own poetry on "An Even Break," Archie Shepp's poetry, Amos Mor with Muhal Richard Abrams... all important. More recently, Steve Dalachinsky's CDs with Joëlle Léandre, Matt Shipp, and Dave Liebman are all incredible. Amina Baraka & The Red Microphone, a newer CD with Rocco John Iacavone and Ras Moshe Burnett, is good and worth hearing too. If we're talking beats, the Kenneth Patchen Reads with Jazz in Canada LP is fun and interesting. I love Patchen even without the jazz. Mike Pearson reading Patchen with Brötzmann's Chicago Tentet is also awesome: https://www.discogs.com/release/1790932-The-Peter-Brötzmann-Chicago-Tentet-Featuring-Mike-Pearson-Be-Music-Night
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Bobby Hutcherson Boxed Set
clifford_thornton replied to tranemonk's topic in Mosaic and other box sets...
For sure -- it's live and later, as I recall. But excellent nonetheless. -
German Jazz on MPS/Mood/Inakustik re-issues, etc
clifford_thornton replied to StarThrower's topic in Re-issues
seen that one but never listened. I'll give it a shot, sounds like it might be up my alley. and congrats on the liners! -
Last art exhibition you visited?
clifford_thornton replied to mikeweil's topic in Miscellaneous - Non-Political
This ended over the weekend but I really enjoyed it: https://www.blankforms.org/exhibitions/candace-hill-montgomery-pretty-birds-peer-speak-sow-peculiar met Candace Hill-Montgomery years ago and first was aware of her work as a poet. Fascinating human being. -
German Jazz on MPS/Mood/Inakustik re-issues, etc
clifford_thornton replied to StarThrower's topic in Re-issues
Never seen that Lyrik und Jazz LP... interesting Zoller band, with Emil Mangelsdorff, Peter Trunk, and Klaus Weiss. -
German Jazz on MPS/Mood/Inakustik re-issues, etc
clifford_thornton replied to StarThrower's topic in Re-issues
https://www.discogs.com/release/2662116-Attila-Zoller-Hans-Koller-Martial-Solal-Zoller-Koller-Solal https://www.discogs.com/release/3156575-Attila-Zoller-Quartet-The-Horizon-Beyond -
German Jazz on MPS/Mood/Inakustik re-issues, etc
clifford_thornton replied to StarThrower's topic in Re-issues
Missus Beastly, yeah, good stuff. I grabbed a not too bad Toto Blanke record on Vertigo called "Spider's Dance" a while back that would fit this bill. I'll stand by my original post of Schoof/Pilz and raise that a couple of years ago a nice 2CD set was released of Radio Bremen material. It's less jazz-rock but certainly spacious, plugged in, and groovy. -
Bobby Hutcherson Boxed Set
clifford_thornton replied to tranemonk's topic in Mosaic and other box sets...
Montara is a good record. Maybe not great, but quite good. -
Hell of a player, hell of a composer. Nice guy in my experience. Congratulations to him!
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Shady and dumb. I've never owned or felt the need to own any of their releases. That said, I've never heard anything bad about their releases, either.
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thanks for coming out, folks! Yeah, I thought it was superb as well. I've never seen Foster and McPhee together in one group, though I know they've played together before. Sullivan and Moran are both excellent musicians indeed and seem to have loosened up from when I first caught them live. Pretty sure their trio with vibraphonist Victor Vieiera-Branco, Bark Culture, will be at Tubby's later in the year.
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Obscure or Underrated Bassists
clifford_thornton replied to Stevie Mclean's topic in Miscellaneous Music
I like that Ware "Frontier" record. The solo playing sounds a lot like WP. Bisio is fantastic and yes, not exactly a household name outside of the New York and PNW areas (he lived in Seattle for many years). Fonda was based in Connecticut for quite some time, though I'm not sure where he lives these days. Beautiful player. Ken Filiano is another one who I would like to see more verbiage about. Tremendous. I have that Everything is Everything record; it's quite good, though I don't recall being able to pull Carbone's name out of a hat on it. Teruo Nakamura, Lanny Fields, and Reggie Workman are also on the album. The related Hino LP by Group Everything Everything Everything has Nakamura, Fields, and Holland (no Carbone or Workman). -
RIP. Obit is here: https://myemail-api.constantcontact.com/Great-Jazz-Composer-Arranger-Departs.html?soid=1111162599529&aid=ug9oRjj5UuU
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Bobby Hutcherson Boxed Set
clifford_thornton replied to tranemonk's topic in Mosaic and other box sets...
I have all of this but Medina (should get that record at some point I guess). Fantastic music, and I'm sure it'll sell well. -
Obscure or Underrated Bassists
clifford_thornton replied to Stevie Mclean's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Massive influence on William Parker. -
Ethnic Heritage Ensemble & Kahil El' Zabar
clifford_thornton replied to tranemonk's topic in Artists
I've immensely enjoyed seeing him live; the records didn't do quite as much for me (and that's on me). I do have and enjoy Infinite Spirit Music in its reissue form. Nice album. -
Yes, hope to see you there! She might've had a few lessons, but "studied with" is debatable. There are grumblings about these reports. I don't feel like airing them here.
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Yeah, that is a strong one!
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You might not enjoy them so much either, but he's prolific and they aren't all the same. I mean, there's something to an artist who just keeps pushing, decade after decade, taking shit out and documenting it whether or not it "sells." I want to know what makes that person tick and I give them my respect.
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I've always liked the duos and groups with Randall (Randy) Colbourne on drums, whether on Tulpa, Cadence, Zaabway (think that was their coop label) or Family Vineyard. They're noisy but very interesting records to me. The duos with Marc Edwards do bring out nuance (Marc having played with Cecil, David S. Ware, et al. brings something else to the table). The CDs with Weasel are fun, including both Dragonfly Breath albums. The Hated Music duos rip but if that is a bit one-dimensional for you there is more to hear elsewhere. The solo stuff is cool too; there are a couple of examples on disc. I also enjoy Orange and Trinity Symphony, his earliest albums, but they are hardly what I would call "free jazz" -- more in the realm of psychedelic backwoods improvising weirdness (cf. Pygmy Unit). I would not go to Flaherty if you are looking for post-Coltrane or Pharoah-esque textural symphonies. He has been doing what he does for a very long time, before anyone hip or unhip cared.
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+1 She may grow into someone interesting but it's clouded by the intense and premature hype machine. There are young saxophonists who are better. Some are now a little bit older than she is, but I remember hearing Michael Foster at 24 or so... he was in another place. He hasn't gotten a lot of press, which is too bad. I remember when Chris Pitsiokos hit the scene right out of college and he was on a very high level, comparatively. Those duos with Weasel vs. Zoh and company = apples and oranges. Flaherty is awesome, but he's on a very different planet from Zoh. He also had zero cache until he was much, much older and had a bunch of records out (going back to the 1970s). I will ride or die for Paul.
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Obscure or Underrated Bassists
clifford_thornton replied to Stevie Mclean's topic in Miscellaneous Music
I think of Kash Killion mostly as a cellist and didn't realize he played bass as well. Would also like to add: Earl Freeman Mutawaf Shaheed Rusty Gilder Robert Prado Scotty Holt Sylvain Marc Beb Guérin François Mechali Ali Haurand Jan Jacobs Sven Hessle Keiki Midorikawa (also played cello) Hideaki Mochizuki Robert Scholer Paul van Gysegem -
I was wondering about the reverb in post -- I've got to go back and A/B the Ayler set with the Shandars. I felt like the Resonance box really sounded great when I first went through it. Not sure if I have time to do any A/Bing. The Rollins Holland sound is not that great; the Arnhem material seems a bit rolled off to me compared to the rawer digital files I have (and am keeping). Believe I got those from someone on the board many years ago.
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