clifford_thornton

There was SO much going on musically in the '70s, it's very hard to pick ten. Nessa, India Navigation, FMP, Incus, ECM/Japo, ALM, Trio, Saravah, Virgin, Freedom and Black Saint were just a few of the labels documenting great music from the period.

I mean, they made probably about 1000 of the Doyle Ak-Ba - it's not THAT rare. Still, one might be hard pressed to come by it pre-eBay. Of course, back then, it would've been $10! Underground records have always been collectible though, whatever the genre. Doyle was an underground hero back in the early '80s, though I don't think the regular jazz community even knew who he was. Most of 'em still don't; to put it in perspective, the one time I saw Doyle live was opposite the Dream Action Unit (Flaherty/Corsano/Moore).

Yup. Sucks.

That Jordan/Gilmore has gone for over $2K before...

I've always thought that looked good... Maslak is/was a great player. Right now: Rhys Chatham - Die Donnergotter (Radium 2LP), excellent early '80s guitar work from this powerhouse bridge between minimalism and punk rock.

That stuff is fast becoming like the ESP catalog - a few top-notch reissues, a lot of dubious ones, and nobody knows what's going on... at least Stollman's at the helm of ESP, however. Sort of.

That makes sense - his '68 band that recorded an incomplete session for Columbia featured both Jones and Dewey.

Haven't been to the South, really, and feel the need. Would also like to visit Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire.

Yeah, that Jamal is sick... I was under the impression that Charles Shaw had passed away. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Re: Moore: He wrote that in the mid '90s IIRC, when NONE of that shit was findable with any ease on LP, and the AUM Fidelity/Homestead crowd was just getting outside recognition. It was originally published (hyper-edited) in Grand Royal Magazine, the Beastie Boys' hipster rag, and I guarantee you almost no one in the Grand Royal subscribing audience had ever even heard/thought much about free jazz. Moore is hit-or-miss and comes off somewhat snobby, but hey, at least he was throwing it out there when not many other dudes were.

Right you are.

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I'd be curious to hear that outfit for sure! A friend of mine went to the gig but haven't heard the report. Good to know Muhammad is still playing!

Yeah, it looks real nice. I suspect the Griff Blowing Session up there now will be doing some damage as well... it's already at about $900!

I have the individual Shandars and they've always sounded very nice to me. Volume 1 is 10.011 (same catalog number as the box). Volume 2 is 83.508 Volume 3 is 83.509 They switched to the 83.000 series midway through the label's career, and renumbered some titles, but I've never seen 10.000 numbers on the second two Cecils. All this is to say that I too always assumed the box came first, but I guessed wrong.

RIP to an interesting figure. I'll be spinning the Heckman-Summerlin LP in his honor.

I think we all know the answer to that one-- VG++++!

I think there are a number of people doing it, but DMG by selling them in a store seems more dubious than just random weird dudes. As far as I can tell, it's either Manny or Bruce's records that are being used for the ones they're selling there. I also think that if you're going to burn/rip shit, it should be a trade circuit. But what are you gonna do? I'm diggin' Le Temps Fou, so I'm not saying I'm not partly guilty for owning something ripped for profit (sounds good, too).

They should've done Space Dimension along with the Wright. Too bad the pressing on that Howard America is dogshit. I've always wondered if Noah split because he wanted to do "tunes" and Wright didn't...

Who?

They've been leaving off the liner notes on a bunch of the UMS titles lately. If it's "Unheard," then give people some context already! There is a lot of the Thurston list that has yet to see the proper light of day - the Colbeck, for example, really needs to be on CD. It's one of the best jazz records in existence...

Well, the French Columbia CD set isn't even OOP, last I checked... Plus, he's ripping shit off left and right. It stinks. I support trading burns and stuff like that, but selling them in a shop? C'mon...

That may be true and would be interesting if it's the case. I was referring to something totally different, however - a shopowner who burns his LPs and sells them at $15-$20 a pop. Including the album in question.

It's great; I have it on a Japanese LP pressing. I think the DMG CD-R business is a crock of shit, and I really want to get all "chewy" on their asses.

Anyone pick up that Dizzy Reece Futura reissue? I think it's out now. Taylor is a motherfucker on that one - Gilmore, Kessler, Caratini...

Agreed. Though the Ak-Ba sessions are on CD, you never see them in the States.