J Larsen

Sorry to dig up an old diversion to this thread, but it just occurred to me that those numbers have to be way, way high for Zorn. I've seen Masada, both the brass and string groups, several times in the past 10 years, both in and out of NYC, and only paid more than $25 or (at most) $30 once (wouldn't be willing to pay more since I'm not the biggest fan) - and that one exception was when they were opening for Cecil at J@LC, which is always expensive. Zorn (in one context or another) plays on average about twice a month in NYC, I'd say, and $20 is the usual ticket price (it is always the price for his monthly jam session at The Stone, which only seats 90). The Masada string group is playing three shows in the city over the next couple weeks and I'm pretty sure they are all $20/set. All that being said, I don't really care what musicians charge - that is their business, and it's up to me whether to go see them play or not. In the interests of being completely redundant with what has been said above, however, one can't charge $75 to $100 a ticket, which of course limits the number of people who can go see them play and hence their opportunities to play, and then reasonably complain about the resulting obscurity.

This one always makes me slightly homesick:

Atlantic N.O. Jazz Sessions Disc 1, for the first time. Holy shit the Young Tuxedo Brass Band SUCKED!!!!!!!

The Knitting Factory is 90% lame indie-rock shows now anyway, but I do suppose the city is better off with it open than not.

I'm late 90% of the time, but it is almost always because of work...

THIS SHOW WAS AWESOME!!!!! Great finale to my live-show-athon. Details please! Well, for one thing the Explosives are truly a great "bar-rock" band - I hadn't paid much attention to them in the past, but they really have their style nailed. They did great versions of You're Going to Miss Me and one other song off the first 13th Floor Elevators album. Roky looks to be in better condition than I expected and his voice doesn't seem to have changed one bit since the 60s - I was a little worried about his ability to put on a good performance due to his health problems, but he is right on his game. I was 50/50 on whether I wanted to go to this show in the first place, but I'm really glad I did - probably the best rock show I'll see this year. That's sounds like a good time. I wish Roky was playing in the Sixth Borough. You didn't happen to catch the Stooges when they were up your way?? No, heard about 15 seconds of the new record and decided to pass on the show.

That's my concern to - I've been completely eliminating all products from any company that has recalled any items at all - but I'm just about out of options at this point. A friend started feeding his cat baby food for the time being - I might see what my vet says about that.

THIS SHOW WAS AWESOME!!!!! Great finale to my live-show-athon. Details please! Well, for one thing the Explosives are truly a great "bar-rock" band - I hadn't paid much attention to them in the past, but they really have their style nailed. They did great versions of You're Going to Miss Me and one other song off the first 13th Floor Elevators album. Roky looks to be in better condition than I expected and his voice doesn't seem to have changed one bit since the 60s - I was a little worried about his ability to put on a good performance due to his health problems, but he is right on his game. I was 50/50 on whether I wanted to go to this show in the first place, but I'm really glad I did - probably the best rock show I'll see this year.

Just thought you might want to know...

US News & World Report has an article on the potential economic impact. It is a pretty lame article, but at least it is in the news:

OK, this shit is getting seriously old - now natural balance is recalling the food that I finally just got my cat to start eating!!! http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/pet.food....l.ap/index.html

BTW, if you are looking for an apt in NYC, you can now live in the blue building next to Tonic (still not a great area) for as little as $7800 a month: http://www.siroffices.com/brokerages/manha...plash=manhattan There is also a penthouse available for sale at around $4 million.

I'll admit I haven't been following this story closely -- what are "the totally bogus real-estate conditions"? guy A huge (and inceredibly ugly) condo was erected right next to Tonic (actually condos went up on both sides, but the big blue one on the corner is more relevant to this story). In the course of contruction, the basement to Tonic was structurally damaged. The condo owners then supposedly reported to the city that Tonic's basement was unsafe, and it was condemned. Meanwhile, Tonic's landlord upped the rent from $5K to $10K, which is far more than the upstairs of Tonic alone could support. Now the building that Tonic was in will likely be demolished to make room for more condos. FUCKIN' BULLSHIT!!! What can we do here to help the cause? Write Bloomberg? what? What would your goal be? Actually a city counsel leader just held a press conference introducing legislation that would give landlords a tax break for renting commercial space to small music venues (which would theoretically make them willing to give such spaces a break on the rent). As I understand it, this is largely in reaction to the closing of Tonic.

Offhand I can only think of a few - 20 seems high but I may be wrong.

I don't know - people with braces have teeth that are loose as hell and they heal - also if I go a long time without getting my teeth scaled they wiggle around a lot for a few days afterwards... But I'd still go to the dentist.

You should like the box set. It is essentially the same music on this, well, the LIVE material on Live/Evil will be on the final two discs in the box set, in unedited form. And there will be four other discs of sets on nights without guitar, and they are different as a result. For the most part a lot of repitition of "tunes" BUT not tedious or entirely teh same to me. The sound on the box set is better than any version of Live/Evil I've heard on cd. You know, I've been through the Cellar Door box a few times now and unfortunately I have to take the dissenting opinion that I'd much rather listen to my record of Live/Evil. I'm not chucking the box, but it didn't quite live up to my expectations - it just seems kind of flat vs. the originally released material. Maybe some day I'll feel differently...

That's been my experience too. Yes, sometimes as little as 10 seconds. And to be completely serious, often it only takes 30, 20, or even as little 15 seconds to tell if something is gonna be REALLY great. This is true of most of the obscure stuff I'm often looking for and discover from that '65-'75 period in jazz that I love so much. And it's also often true (for me, at least) with classical recordings of 20th Century works. Some of THE best things I've discovered have totally "clicked" with me in 20 seconds or less -- and yes, sometimes as little as 10 seconds -- often by composers I'd never heard of, or were largely unfamiliar with at the time. Interesting - I often find that the albums that become my favorites are the ones that don't fully click with me the first time I spin them, but that I feel compelled to return to later.

Earl Cross made some recordings with Charles Tyler and one of them is on my label. You have a label?

http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...mp;#entry260920 Interesting... it was someone from his group that corrected *me* in the first place a couple years ago... oh, well. The only reason it was annoying was this random dude was going off on me about how *I* was wrong for saying mo-tee-uhn - I really don't care how anyone else says his name. My own name is pronounced correctly about 1% of the time and I'm not even really bothered by that - I do mind being told I'm wrong when I'm not, though!

I think at this point that is the "consensus" pronunciation, even if it was incorrect initially. Guy I think you are right, but it was still annoying just because of the circumstances.

I went to the Friday night show - wasn't Monder a monster? Damn! I was a little annoyed that the MC introduced him as Paul "Motion" - I had just involuntarily gotten into an argument with some know-it-all about the pronounciation outside the club who had heard me pronounce the name correctly... oh well.

I'll admit I haven't been following this story closely -- what are "the totally bogus real-estate conditions"? guy A huge (and inceredibly ugly) condo was erected right next to Tonic (actually condos went up on both sides, but the big blue one on the corner is more relevant to this story). In the course of contruction, the basement to Tonic was structurally damaged. The condo owners then supposedly reported to the city that Tonic's basement was unsafe, and it was condemned. Meanwhile, Tonic's landlord upped the rent from $5K to $10K, which is far more than the upstairs of Tonic alone could support. Now the building that Tonic was in will likely be demolished to make room for more condos.