Cliff Englewood

They had the following in a couple of stores in Dublin today; Royal Flush Trompeta Toccata Another Workout The Cooker Might As Well Be Spring but strangely no; The Congregation Anyway none, and I repeat none, had the C.C. info on the labels so.... we're back where we started and what did we gain??? Answers on a postcard....................

No longer interested in Hank Mobley Quintet and Peckin' Time, so if anyone else was eyeballing these two badboys, PM MR connoisseur series500 post haste.

Yea, I like the sound on the new version just not the drop out.

I have yet another version on a UK label Fivefour which sounds great. They still persist in giving Patton as the organist though. I think the Fivefour is the one I have as well, I was fairly impressed with the sound myself, nothing amazing but more than decent. They also say in the notes that Grant wrote the tune "Iron City" as well if memory serves me. The thing is, I always thought this was a "live" session, was suprised not to hear any crowd noise when I first put it on.

PM sent regarding Hank Mobley Quintet and Peckin' Time.

Seems to be a problem with the new RVG re-master of this classic. At around 2:19 on "Moritat", things go pear shaped, sounds like a problem on the actual tape, like it got a bit twisted or chewed. The sound drops out again at around 2:25. Checked my old 20 bit edition and the fault does not appear. I only upgraded this as it's such a great piece of work. :rmad: Anybody else notice this?

Just got this one recently, on some dodgy Label, I like it, but would like to know if anyone out there has definitive information on it, i.e. when and where was it recorded and, the real question, is it Patton or Young?

Yes I did mean Hybrid Discs, ................. and much to my disappointment and complete f#@%'in annoyance it looks as if I am going to have to do without my system for a while as I brought the offending "Guacho" into the Store and put it in the exact same type of System and it picked it up as a SACD So I'll have to take it in and let them "have a look at it", which means I'll probably never see it again. Less than a year old........... which is the one good thing about this sorry incident.

I like Chuck's idea, and with every "order" you place with him, you have to buy $20 to $30 worth from the Nessa Catalogue. So I'll order all the Pepper K2's and Jimmy Woods "Awakening", plus another copy of "All Music", just as a backup, and whatever you recommend. You have my address.

Thanks but it's just what I didn't want to hear, both the Player and the Disc are less that a year old, so I think i'll bring the Disc into the shop I bought it in and try it there, I was barely able to pay for one SACD Player never mind 2.

I only have 4 SACD Dual Discs and one of them, "Gaucho" by Steely Dan, seems to have died or become corrupt or something, as my Sony SACD Player will only recognise the CD Layer. I've put in the other 3 SACD Dual Discs and I can access both Layers on all of them, which was obviously a great relief. Anybody else have this kind of problem, as I'm 100% sure I used to be able to access both Layers on this Disc before. I notice that on the ones that work, there is a small "beep" when the Disc starts to spin, but no "beep" on "Gaucho".

I'm remotely curious.

Was in London last week for work reasons but still managed to spend a small fortune in the Oxford Street HMV Jazz dept., and one of the purchases was this bad boy, haven't really got stuck into it yet but I am looking forward to doing so.

Here's what it looks like according to Amazon: Chuck, looks like they've been "influenced" by your Art Ensemble Box. Call in the Lawyers now.

It arrived yesterday along with some other stuff, I haven't taken the plastic off the CDs yet but so far I really enjoy the format of the Booklet. I like the "personal reminisces" bit, especially where they talk about how Dave Brubeck became "influenced" by Max's innovations.

€11.50 is a damn good price for a Conn, well done plato.nl.

In the case of the Blackburn and the Evans I think its value for money as there is more than one album involved but considering that the RVG/Pacific Jazz stuff is never more that €13 and can usually be found for €10, I find $20 for a single CD a bit on the expensive side. I am grateful that EMI is continuing their reissue schedule and whatever the price I will continue to buy them, but I will most definitely continue whining about the price.

David, I don't think they were Imports, as then they would have been even more expensive than the €20 I was charged for each disc, yes that's right €20, and they're not even Jap. Imports I gave the Blackburn a spin and I think comparisons to the Sonny Criss Imperial stuff would not be far of the mark, not necessarily musically, but in terms of quality/quantity, and in terms really great jazz, not life changing Jazz, that people like me would not have heard only for good ole Michael C. The second Session has the edge but I really like the group sound and it shows how much great stuff was produced on the West Coast that never got a chance. Excellent sound quality too.

News Flash !!! News Flash !!! News Flash !!! News Flash !!! News Flash !!! News Flash !!! News Flash !!! News Flash !!! I bought these 4 this afternoon in Dublin; Lou Blackburn - The Complete Imperial Sessions Andrew Hill - Pax Jackie McLean - It's Time Gil Evans - The Complete Pacific Jazz Sessions very expensive, but just had to splurge, but the thing is, none of them have Copy Protection messages on the packaging. I haven't listened to them yet but all other Conns I have gotten recently, with the exception of "Sonic Boom" and the Elmo Hope, have had C.P., but this batch doesn't seem to have it.

Yea, looking forward to all the Tenor players on this Set, and Hank is in a Piano-less Quartet circa 1957, how completely "Avant Garde".

Just thought I'd bring this one back up for some air, for no reason other than I have ordered this set myself and it should be arriving next week sometime. I only have one of the Sessions, "Max Roach Plus Four", which I really enjoy and I'm looking forward to hearing loads of George Coleman. How is "Big" George on these Sides?, Blue-sy and Bop-ee I'll bet.

Sounds like it will have to be bought then, I find myself listening to more of Miles' Electric stuff then ever before. I got "Miles In The Sky" recently as well and really like it also. Thanks for the info.

So I bought "Live Evil", and have listened to it a couple of times and liked it more than I thought I would. So much so in fact that I am now considering the Cellar Door set. So if I like the "Live Evil" stuff would I like the Cellar Door set more or less? I mean, is it just loads and loads of the same stuff or what? I gone through most of this post and very little of it actually pertains to the music, as usual.

I was listening to the twofer at the weekend and the "The Soul Book" definitely gets a He was giving off a bit of a Patton vibe, in that you had to really listen to hear what was going on, very subtle stuff. The sax and guitar player, Edlin "Buddy" Terry/Vinnie Corrao, are pretty good too.

I have that twofer myself Shawn, haven't listened to it in quite some time, probably as it didn't really blow me away on first listen, but you know how sometimes things don't hit you first time and then later you're wondering why you don't listen to it more often.