Cliff Englewood

Can somebody out there explain what is the story with these formats? XRCD24 CD Gold CD Are they comparable to SACDs? Are they just K2s with a fancy name?

Nice one, I'll print this off and read it later, it looks like a bit of an epic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes they have abandoned Copy Protection, I mentioned this in the Aug 15th RVGs thread, I also mentioned it in the June 2006 Connoisseur CDs thread, but no one believed me then either.

I have a few of the recently released "Live" albums by this group and their sound is growing on me. Not cutting edge by any means but I feel no less "commercial" than alot of the "Soul Jazz/Bogaloo" stuff from the same time period, stuff that seems to get alot more respect. I have to admit I am tempted by this set, time to listen to some sound clips on the Mosaic site methinks.

I'm pretty sure he's on all of the tracks on the original "Workout", maybe not as in your face as on other sideman dates. Try listening to it through some decent "Cans" and you'll see what I mean.

And you get 2 other really cool photos, one of them being an excellent one of Philly Joe in full effect, hat, waistcoat, smoke hanging from the lip, and totally into the moment.

Not even if I start smoking?

Since we're talking about the excellent new cover for "Another Workout", with the fantastic shot of Mobley, it's worth mentioning that there is an even cooler photo of Philly Joe inside. It is upsetting to know I'll never be that cool.

Heres a bigger picture of the alternative cover.

Totally agree with Paul's point, I hadn't listened to this album in ages myself and was kicking myself for not having done so as I listened to the new RVG version, but isn't this always the way? You upgrade only to find that you should have listened to the old version more often. I must have had fond memories of it though as I usually don't upgrade unless it's something I totally love. The new version does sound very good, to my ears anyway, has a little more warmth that the 20 bit, it's just I was disapointed with the slight flaw. However I think it's interesting that it was also on an exsisting Japanese version, I mean, aren't those guys the so called experts in these matters, didn't they start this whole "bit" and "sound upgrade" madness in the first place?????????????? Anyway I think the point I'd like to make is that it's an essential piece of work whatever version you have. Now, what is the story with those JVC XRCD and Gold versions? I think I need to buy this album again as a sort of punishment.

They had the following in a couple of stores in Dublin today; Royal Flush Trompeta Toccata Another Workout The Cooker Might As Well Be Spring but strangely no; The Congregation Anyway none, and I repeat none, had the C.C. info on the labels so.... we're back where we started and what did we gain??? Answers on a postcard....................

No longer interested in Hank Mobley Quintet and Peckin' Time, so if anyone else was eyeballing these two badboys, PM MR connoisseur series500 post haste.

Yea, I like the sound on the new version just not the drop out.

I have yet another version on a UK label Fivefour which sounds great. They still persist in giving Patton as the organist though. I think the Fivefour is the one I have as well, I was fairly impressed with the sound myself, nothing amazing but more than decent. They also say in the notes that Grant wrote the tune "Iron City" as well if memory serves me. The thing is, I always thought this was a "live" session, was suprised not to hear any crowd noise when I first put it on.

PM sent regarding Hank Mobley Quintet and Peckin' Time.

Seems to be a problem with the new RVG re-master of this classic. At around 2:19 on "Moritat", things go pear shaped, sounds like a problem on the actual tape, like it got a bit twisted or chewed. The sound drops out again at around 2:25. Checked my old 20 bit edition and the fault does not appear. I only upgraded this as it's such a great piece of work. :rmad: Anybody else notice this?

Just got this one recently, on some dodgy Label, I like it, but would like to know if anyone out there has definitive information on it, i.e. when and where was it recorded and, the real question, is it Patton or Young?

Yes I did mean Hybrid Discs, ................. and much to my disappointment and complete f#@%'in annoyance it looks as if I am going to have to do without my system for a while as I brought the offending "Guacho" into the Store and put it in the exact same type of System and it picked it up as a SACD So I'll have to take it in and let them "have a look at it", which means I'll probably never see it again. Less than a year old........... which is the one good thing about this sorry incident.

I like Chuck's idea, and with every "order" you place with him, you have to buy $20 to $30 worth from the Nessa Catalogue. So I'll order all the Pepper K2's and Jimmy Woods "Awakening", plus another copy of "All Music", just as a backup, and whatever you recommend. You have my address.

Thanks but it's just what I didn't want to hear, both the Player and the Disc are less that a year old, so I think i'll bring the Disc into the shop I bought it in and try it there, I was barely able to pay for one SACD Player never mind 2.

I only have 4 SACD Dual Discs and one of them, "Gaucho" by Steely Dan, seems to have died or become corrupt or something, as my Sony SACD Player will only recognise the CD Layer. I've put in the other 3 SACD Dual Discs and I can access both Layers on all of them, which was obviously a great relief. Anybody else have this kind of problem, as I'm 100% sure I used to be able to access both Layers on this Disc before. I notice that on the ones that work, there is a small "beep" when the Disc starts to spin, but no "beep" on "Gaucho".

I'm remotely curious.

Was in London last week for work reasons but still managed to spend a small fortune in the Oxford Street HMV Jazz dept., and one of the purchases was this bad boy, haven't really got stuck into it yet but I am looking forward to doing so.

Here's what it looks like according to Amazon: Chuck, looks like they've been "influenced" by your Art Ensemble Box. Call in the Lawyers now.

It arrived yesterday along with some other stuff, I haven't taken the plastic off the CDs yet but so far I really enjoy the format of the Booklet. I like the "personal reminisces" bit, especially where they talk about how Dave Brubeck became "influenced" by Max's innovations.