Steve Reynolds

looking forward to hearing your thoughts on Zooid, BFrank as I have the band on my upcoming events calendar....

allen - btw - I saw darius Jones last year with a poorish band but he was terrific maybe no Thomas Chapin but wonderful nonetheless

Vitamin C - Can

Brotzmann Tentet + 2: Stone Water

denial is a bitch especially with the girl peace and blessings

I saw Mark Sanders in NYC with Evan Parker, Drew Gress and Tim Berne in May 2001 2 sets knitting factory main space 2nd set through the roof!!! - Sanders is one of my favorite 3 or 4 drummers - along with Drake, Bennink, Lovens, Cyrille, Hemingway, etc ask him about the trip - I think he was touring with Jah Wobble if I recollect

Tony Malaby quartet & 9 or 10 piece band on Sunday Tom Rainey drumming with the bigger band and Nasheet Waits with the quartet @ cornelia street cafe - NYC

Alexander - I would love to see Alex Ward come to NYC one day with Mark Sanders and Simon H Fell - plus you of course havn't kept up as much recently with newer recordings but I have a great CD on red toucan that explodes out of the player

John Carter Pee Wee Russell Jimmy Hamilton Marty Ehrlich - when i saw him live last year with Bobby Bradford he tore the roof off when he picked up the stick Joe Maneri - seeing him live 5 or 6 times puts much of this in perspective Eric Dolphy - not often did he play the b-flat but when he did...

please - too busy on the horn? didn't play well in the upper echelons of the horn?? try the track A Drunken Monkey on Menagerie Dreams - it is a study of restraint and power. Sky Piece is filled with restrained yet powerful alto and flute throughout the record.

was Thomas Chapin mentioned anywhere here? I love many alto players especially Dolphy, Lyons, Lake, Mclean and many of the others Thomas Chapin was as great as any of them Sky Piece, baby and never forget Joe Maneri who is more known for the tenor - but he may have been even more expressive on the alto saxophone. oh - yes on the post above mine but it is worrisome that so many other truly lesser talants are mentioned more often add Julius Hemphill & Michael Moore to the top tier players for me

I have a great trio disc with Mark Dresser & Jim Black - on DIW

The Tri-Centric Foundation, and co-producers Darmstadt Institute, are proud to announce the performance schedule for "Tri Centric Modeling: Past, Present and Future," a two-night benefit concert event celebrating the legacy of esteemed saxophonist/composer/educator Anthony Braxton in honor of his 65th birthday. Proceeds from these performances will benefit the Tri-Centric Foundation, a newly revived not-for-profit organization dedicated to realizing Braxton's most ambitious projects, documenting and distributing his writings and recordings online, and inspiring younger generations of creative artists to pursue their own visions with the kind of idealism and integrity he has demonstrated throughout his long and distinguished career. Friday, June 18th at (Le) Poisson Rouge 158 Bleecker Street in New York, NY Doors open at 5:30 p.m. Tickets are $35 in advance; $45 day of the show VIP tickets (priority seating, autographed CD and access to private Braxton workshop) are $180 http://lepoissonrouge.com/events/view/1240 6:00 :: Invocation by Matt Welch 6:15 :: Steve Coleman & Jonathan Finlayson 6:45 :: Richard Teitelbaum 7:15 :: Nicole Mitchell's Black Earth Strings 7:50 :: John Zorn/Dave Douglas/Brad Jones/Gerry Hemingway 8:25 :: Marilyn Crispell/Mark Dresser/Gerry Hemingway 9:00 :: Anthony Braxton 12+1tet Saturday, June 19th at ISSUE Project Room 232 3rd Street in Brooklyn, NY Doors open at 5:30 p.m. Tickets are $25 in advance; $30 day of the show http://issueprojectroom.org/2010/04/20/braxton-at-65/ 6:15 :: Excerpt from Trillium E 6:45 :: Andrew Raffo Dewar Interactions Quartet East 7:15 :: Taylor Ho Bynum & SpiderMonkey 5 7:45 :: Excerpt from Trillium E 8:30 :: James Fei & Chris Jonas 9:00 :: Tyshawn Sorey Quartet 9:30 :: Mary Halvorson & Jessica Pavone

the great Waldron discs from The Utopia with Jim Pepper from 1986 plus the phenomenal recording Mal, Verve, Black & Blue with Nicolas Simion on tenor from 1993 or so amazing that these recordings are rarely mentioned

The *great* Papa Joe Maneri

I disagree, Chuck but the other guy, maybe the most important saxophonist, IMO, of the past 25 years is the late, great Joe Maneri if not - who are the guys, Chuck?

in my mind since Roscoe and then Evan took circular breathing to new places many years ago - the microtonal or smaller sounds created by guys like Jon Butcher or Urs Leimgruber or Bhob Rainey may be the most innovative things done with the saxophone. but I would add Mats Gustaffson as one who incorporates massive techniques in some or all of these areas. But I do believe the bass has undergone the most profound of changed sound and place in the music in the hands of the masters of this sort of improvisation playing aand dd Simon H Fell to my list

and granted the innovations of Blanton, Mingus, Pettiford et al were more profound - but there was little to build on my point may be that of all the 'jazz instruments' the upright bass is the one where the most radical and technically advanced innovations have happened over the past 40 years.

they never took the bass to the same places different music 50 -75 years ago Allen - have you seen these guys play live? I'm speaking of any of the guys/ladies I mentioned? They play the bass in a manner unknown to nay of the players mentioned - even Richard Davis or even the *great* Dave Holland. or listen to Parker-Guy-Lytton - At The Vortex and get an idea. the technique and diversity is way beyond traditional playing of the upright bass.

the modern avant-garde bassists took bass playing to more places arguably than musicians playing on all the other standard jazz instruments - and much of it is played with a bow the greatest bassists I've encountered are: Peter Kowald - RIP Barry Guy Joelle Leandre Mark Dresser John Edwards Paul Rogers all of them play from a supporting role to a primary role in the ensemble and in small groups, they are never really subservient in the traditional jazz role seeing all of them live save for Edwards (as I don't think he has been stateside) gave me a deeper idea of the immense power of all their playing live - Rogers & Guy were stunning beyond normal comprehension One time when I saw Rogers with Dunmall and Norton, he was so incredible I still don't know great he really was.... Barry Guy live (and I have seen him only one time - with Crispell & Hemingway) - I was 10 - 15 feet away and it was a total mind fuck - what he does with the bow and his effects is pretty much beyond what the bass is supposedly capable of.

where is my snotty post?

the 2 Barry Guy New Orchestra discs are on Intakt from 2002 & 2007 They are both powerhouse performances with the earlier Inscape/Tableaux probably more accesable. The opening track has Evan Parker & Mats Gustaffson back to back on tenor over and with the roaring band. for LJCO - a good entry point is the classic recording Harmos - also on Intakt from 1989

listen to Evan with Barry Guy's New Orchestra this is music with Barry's charts and free playing within those confines - and he plays the charts as well many believe what Allen believes I have been listening to those people for many years I choose not be jaded simply because "free jazz" has been around now for 50 years

free music or free improvisation is not based on random forms this is more language or a descriptor which denigrates what the great free musicians do Gold is Where You Find It

so Allen are you comparing yourself to Evan Parker? wow I have a nice CD of yours from years back - Dark was the Night - a decent recording with a decent tenor saxophonist in the league of Evan Parker? wow listen to his 50th Birthday 2 CD set from 1995 & get back to me on that one