Gheorghe Posted October 3, 2019 Report Posted October 3, 2019 10 hours ago, sidewinder said: I have a US Inner City and a French East Wind of this one - think I bought the Inner City in 1979 as a Mole Jazz deletion. A gem ! - Cedar’s trio is also outstanding, as per usual. I have it on LP from 1978 and I got it signed by Mr. Art Farmer !!!! And a few years ago I also bought it on CD, so I must not always spin the LP. Quote
HutchFan Posted October 4, 2019 Report Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Jeremy Steig & Eddie Gomez - Rain Forest (CMP, 1980) CMP released some excellent music back in the day (including this LP). They typically featured exquisite recorded sound quality too. Regarding Art Farmer's To Duke with Love. Nice to see it getting so much love. Couldn't agree more. It's one helluva record. Edited October 4, 2019 by HutchFan Quote
Gheorghe Posted October 4, 2019 Report Posted October 4, 2019 I saw the New Thundering Herd in the summer of 1979, they were great, and sounded quite modern, they also played some 1970´s Chick Corea material. Shortly after this, they were at Monterey and had stars like Diz, Woody Shaw, Stan Getz and Slide Hampton on it. The Version of "Woody´n You" is Incredible ! And the band without the guests also really stretches out, listen to "Countdown", not an easy tune at all even if it´s based on "Tune Up" , and rare for Woody Herman: The Mingus tune "Bettter Git It in Your Your" . Quote
sidewinder Posted October 4, 2019 Report Posted October 4, 2019 11 hours ago, Gheorghe said: I saw the New Thundering Herd in the summer of 1979, they were great, and sounded quite modern, they also played some 1970´s Chick Corea material. Yep, I remember seeing Woody’s band play ‘La Fiesta’ around that time. The band had Lyle Mays on keyboards i think. Quote
HutchFan Posted October 5, 2019 Report Posted October 5, 2019 with John Surman, Eddie Gomez, and Jack DeJohnette Oh hell yeah. Quote
soulpope Posted October 6, 2019 Report Posted October 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, Pim said: Stunning music.... ❤❤❤ !!! Quote
porcy62 Posted October 6, 2019 Report Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) I admit I have a thing for Lloyd' ECM records, all of them. Edited October 6, 2019 by porcy62 Quote
jcam_44 Posted October 6, 2019 Report Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) Christopher Hollyday - Reverence followed it with: Christopher Hollyday - Treaty Edited October 6, 2019 by jcam_44 Quote
jcam_44 Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 Doug Duke - The Jazz Organist a random purchase years ago, nothing spectacular but enjoyable none the less. Quote
Gheorghe Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 15 hours ago, Pim said: Stunning music.... I´m sure it is. It´s too bad those Denon Albums are so hard to find. I have just one of them, Max Roach in Amsterdam. Is this also from around 1977,78 and has Cecil Bridgewater, Billie Harper and Reggie Workman? And is this the records, were they also Play a stunning Version of Round Midnight. I think, Denon was quite a label for advanced modern jazzmen during that time. I think they also did some Albums with Archie Shepp. Quote
Pim Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Gheorghe said: I´m sure it is. It´s too bad those Denon Albums are so hard to find. I have just one of them, Max Roach in Amsterdam. Is this also from around 1977,78 and has Cecil Bridgewater, Billie Harper and Reggie Workman? And is this the records, were they also Play a stunning Version of Round Midnight. I think, Denon was quite a label for advanced modern jazzmen during that time. I think they also did some Albums with Archie Shepp. Yes it is indeed that all star group with the Uptempo version of Round Midnight. The interaction within the group is just stunning. I also can’t believe this music hasn’t been issued more. Ordered my copies for about 50 dollars incl shipping from Japan. I like these two even better than The Loadstar as the sound quality is way better. Quote
soulpope Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Pim said: Yes it is indeed that all star group with the Uptempo version of Round Midnight. The interaction within the group is just stunning. I also can’t believe this music hasn’t been issued more. Ordered my copies for about 50 dollars incl shipping from Japan. I like these two even better than The Loadstar as the sound quality is way better. Yes the live recordings are even more exciting than the HORO studio date (although still excellent) .... there was a video (which comes up now and then on Youtube) of an live gig @ Italian Jazz Club recorded around the time if the HORO session (feat a 20+ minutes version of "Nommo" and an miraculous bass solo by Reggie Workman)) mirroring all this group`s qualities .... Quote
Pim Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Gheorghe said: I´m sure it is. It´s too bad those Denon Albums are so hard to find. I have just one of them, Max Roach in Amsterdam. Is this also from around 1977,78 and has Cecil Bridgewater, Billie Harper and Reggie Workman? And is this the records, were they also Play a stunning Version of Round Midnight. I think, Denon was quite a label for advanced modern jazzmen during that time. I think they also did some Albums with Archie Shep 32 minutes ago, soulpope said: Yes the live recordings are even more exciting than the HORO studio date (although still excellent) .... there was a video (which comes up now and then on Youtube) of an live gig @ Italian Jazz Club recorded around the time if the HORO session (feat a 20+ minutes version of "Nommo" and an miraculous bass solo by Reggie Workman)) mirroring all this group`s qualities .... That sound awesome! Quote
Gheorghe Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, soulpope said: Yes the live recordings are even more exciting than the HORO studio date (although still excellent) .... there was a video (which comes up now and then on Youtube) of an live gig @ Italian Jazz Club recorded around the time if the HORO session (feat a 20+ minutes version of "Nommo" and an miraculous bass solo by Reggie Workman)) mirroring all this group`s qualities .... Maybe you also saw them live in September 1978 at the legendary Kongress-Haus. Then, in May 1979 it was the Archie Shepp Quinted with Siegfried Kessler, Bob Cunningham and Clifford Jarvis, so it seems they had some "Denon-Artists" booked, since Shepp also had a batch of records on Denon...…. Quote
kh1958 Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) Dexter Gordon, Homecoming (Columbia) Joe Henderson, The State of the Tenor, volume 2 (Blue Note Tone Poet). This pressing sounds amazing. Edited October 7, 2019 by kh1958 Quote
JSngry Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 Max Roach in Amsterdam was on Baystate, correct? That's another amazing body of work, his Baystate output. Between Denon & Baystate, Max Roach and Max Roach-assocated records tell a story that has yet to be fully heard by the general market. Quote
soulpope Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, JSngry said: Max Roach in Amsterdam was on Baystate, correct? Baystate RVJ-6029 .... Quote
HutchFan Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, JSngry said: Max Roach in Amsterdam was on Baystate, correct? That's another amazing body of work, his Baystate output. Between Denon & Baystate, Max Roach and Max Roach-assocated records tell a story that has yet to be fully heard by the general market. Another below-radar release by this same quartet: Confirmation, released on the Fluid label in France. Recorded 1978. Discogs entry here. Subsequently, Billy Harper left Roach's Quartet and was replaced with Odean Pope. (I love Harper, but I think Pope is a superb tenorist too.) Roach then started making record for Soul Note. (The first of these is the excellent and also under-appreciated Pictures in a Frame.) I suppose Roach's series of Soul Notes are more well known than the LPs Horo, Denon, Baystate and Fluid. But only just! At some point, Columbia gave Roach a shot. (FINALLY, a "major"!) I think he made two records for them. Chattahoochee Red is EXCELLENT, but it seemingly vanished without a trace. (Not surprisingly, Sony has never reissued it.) The other LP was made with Roach's percussion ensemble, M'boom, not the quartet. Missed opportunities right and left. Edited October 7, 2019 by HutchFan Quote
JSngry Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 Look at these Max records on Baystate: https://www.discogs.com/search/?q=max+roach+baystate&type=all Billy Harper had one: https://www.discogs.com/search/?q=billy+harper+baystate&type=all Another Max/Billy from Japan: https://www.discogs.com/Max-Roach-Quartet-Nommo/release/1919200 Of course, Billy on Denon (there were three, actually, a fact which had eluded me until not that many years ago, Love On The Sudan was not in the shops here like the two later ones were, I guess because it wasn't PCM'ed) Just saying, that whole Max/Billy band left a legacy, if not in breadth or repertoire, then definitely in intensity of performances. One of the strongest bands Max ever had, imo, even with Cecil Bridgewater not really being anything scorching himself. He didn't need to ba. Although, imagining that band with Hannibal in the trumpet chair...oh well about that. And still - no representation in the general marketplace, which is a crime of sorts, really, so distorting of history that absence is. The Soul Note records were different types of records, quite by intent. I DID see Max's band (at Carnegie Hall, of all places) shortly after Odean joined, and it was quite intense. But Max apparently decided not to make records like that any more, after Billy left, something about making them more "listener friendly" by having shorter tracks and more tunes per record. Whatever... I wish somebody would do a legit set of this part of Max's career. Most people still don't know, and time's a'-wastin'. 26 minutes ago, HutchFan said: At some point, Columbia gave Roach a shot. (FINALLY, a "major"!) I think he made two records for them. Chattahoochee Red is EXCELLENT, but it seemingly vanished without a trace. (Not surprisingly, Sony has never reissued it.) Chattahoochie Red (how many people today would even know what that title was about?) was a thing that Max leased to Columbia because of his friendship/trust/respect/whatever of/with Bruce Lundvall. Columbia also reissued We Insist on the same type deal, a lease. And Max kept an association with Lundvall as he moved to Electra/Musician, and then to Blue Note. Apparently, Max could be "difficult" to do business with. Oh well about that too. The records still got made. Now they need to be saved, if only so they don't get forgotten completely. Quote
soulpope Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, JSngry said: Another Max/Billy from Japan: https://www.discogs.com/Max-Roach-Quartet-Nommo/release/1919200 Superb platter .... Quote
HutchFan Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, JSngry said: Apparently, Max could be "difficult" to do business with. Oh well about that too. The records still got made. Now they need to be saved, if only so they don't get forgotten completely. I know that I'd buy a Denon/Baystate Roach set in a heartbeat if someone like Mosaic did their thing. Do you think there'd be any market for it? I know that that more contemporary (i.e., post 1960s) stuff doesn't necessarily sell as well as the older stuff. Or at least they haven't concentrated on it as much. But it's not like we're talking about an obscure guy from some far-off corner of the jazz world. It's MAX ROACH for god's sake. Quote
JSngry Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, HutchFan said: It's MAX ROACH for god's sake. Exactly. And for the truth(s) of Max Roach to be distorted is to distort the truth(s) of jazz. Not that anybody's ever gone broke doing that... Quote
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