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These are a must for me and I think I'll go for the Lonehills. Much as I'd love to get the Japanese sound and packaging I'm not willing to spend more than four times what the Lonehills would cost me. And there are enough other Japanese things I want to pick up.

So as long as I have a decent alternative I think I will decide against them. I have been listening to the Jazz Lab reissue for a couple of weeks now and I'm more than satisfied with the sound. It still breaks my heart though to let them pass me by and I still catch myself with "and if...?" thoughts from time to time. It's different when there's no alternative to that compilation format, except maybe vinyl.

And I also dislike the way they throw those albums together. I'm a sucker for 50s album artwork and facsimile editions and love having everything in original packaging and sequence. But I guess if they can't use the original artwork and reproduce the album release as it was in the day they want to go the added value route and sell it from a "complete whatever" or compiled sessions angle. How did they do those Jubilee, Dootoo, Dawn et al. reissues before though, I ask myself? Or the recent Crown Conte Candoli or the Johnny Mehegan Quartet I'm planning to pick up*?

I think I know the answer ...

* I knew nothing about that one before checking AMG. In the book or the Penguin I couldn't find him. But Kenny Dorham as sideman (and the cover, I must admit)called my attention. I'll see. Maybe I post something in the Artist forum to find out...

  • 6 months later...
Posted

Interesting side-note about David Amram: he was much involved with the 1959 Beat film Pull My Daisy, for which Kerouac did the narration.

I'll be featuring the Jazz Studio sessions on Night Lights at the beginning of each month throughout the summer:

Saturday, June 4--Jazz Studio 1 and 2

Saturday, July 2--Jazz Studio 3 & 4

Saturday, August 6--Jazz Studio 5 & 6

Posted (edited)

Hey Ghost, what versions are you going to use? The Lonehill set is rough in spots. Theirs is done from records and some of them are not in the greatest shape. The Amram has a spot that is just horrible.

Edited by Bill Fenohr
Posted

Interesting side-note about David Amram:  he was much involved with the 1959 Beat film Pull My Daisy, for which Kerouac did the narration.

Saturday, June 4--Jazz Studio 1 and 2

Saturday, July 2--Jazz Studio 3 & 4

Saturday, August 6--Jazz Studio 5 & 6

Amram is name checked in a popular childrens' song by Raffi. I can't rememeber the exact line. I'l have to see if I still have any of my kids' old tapes. Or ask my wife-- who has a much better memory for lyrics than I do.

A friend of mine who was driving cab in Toronto during the 70's once phoned to excitedly tell me that he'd just picked up David Amram and Rambling Jack Elliot in front of Rochdale College-- a place notorioius for drugs at the time.

Posted

Hey Ghost, what versions are you going to use? The Lonehill set is rough in spots. Theirs is done from records and some of them are not in the greatest shape. The Amram has a spot that is just horrible.

Bill,

I'm using the Japanese versions. They were about $20 a pop through Mr. Tanno, but worth it, I think.

Posted

Raffi sang:

"A peanut butter sandwhich filled with jam,

one for me, and one for David Amram"

to the tune of Arkansas Traveller.

I never liked Amram much. His jazz playing is really very mediocre, the worst kind of dabbling, IMHO -

Posted

Just got my Jazz Studio 1/2/3/4/5/6 and Jazz Lab 1&2 from Caiman (the Lone Hill Jazz releases).

Wonderful stuff. Delivery was very fast (as usual), the booklets are not bad at all for that price, and I'm beginning to notice that these Lone Hill people are doing a really good job. I've got a bunch of their other releases and, so far, no dud among them.

Recommended.

  • 7 months later...
Posted

Very late to this thread but I have just picked up for a good price the Lonehill 'Jazz Studio 3/4' and 'Jazz Studio 5/6'. The sound seems to be fine on these. It's whetted my appetite - I'll have to pick up the other 4 in the 'John Graas Project' and have a listed to Ghost's archived shows. Too bad that Mosaic didn't get there before Lonehill though and give it the 5-star treatment.

Posted

Jazz Studio Four - Decca DL-8516

Recorded in Hollywood on May 18, 1955

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Maynard Ferguson (as Tiger Brown) - valve trombone

Buddy Collette - alto saxophone

Jack Montrose - tenor saxophone

Bob Gordon - baritone saxophone

Gerald Wiggins - piano

Curtis Counce - bass

Chico Hamilton - drums

Spud Murphy - arranger

Ballade for Jeanie

Maynard Ferguson (as Tiger Brown) - valve trombone

Buddy Collette - alto saxophone

Jack Montrose - tenor saxophone

Frank Flynn - vibraphone

Gerald Wiggins - piano

Curtis Counce - bass

Chico Hamilton - drums

Mike Pacheco - bongo

Artie Anton - conga

Fred Aguirre - timbales

Jack Millman - arranger

The Turk

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Buddy Collette - flute

Jack Montrose - tenor saxophone

Bob Gordon - baritone saxophone

Frank Flynn - vibraphone

Curtis Counce - bass

Chico Hamilton - drums

Mike Pacheco - bongo

Maynard Ferguson - claves

Artie Anton - conga

Johnny Mandell - arranger

Cathy Goes South

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Linn Halliday - tenor saxophone

Don Anderson - vibraphone

Russ Freeman (as Don Friedman) - piano

Ralph Peña - bass

Gary Frommer - drums

Bill Holman - arranger

So Goes My Love

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Linn Halliday - tenor saxophone

Don Anderson - vibraphone

Russ Freeman - piano

Don Overberg - guitar

Ralph Peña - bass

Gary Frommer - drums

Gerald Wiggins - arranger

Tom and Jerry

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Bob Enevoldsen - valve trombone

Herb Geller (as Bert Herbert) - alto saxophone

Jimmy Giuffre - tenor saxophone

Bob Gordon - baritone saxophone

Claude Williamson - piano

Howard Roberts - guitar

Red Mitchell - bass

Shelly Manne - drums

Jimmy Giuffre - arranger

Groove Juice

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Buddy Collette - flute

Bob Gordon - bass clarinet

Red Norvo (as Ken Kenney) - vibraphone

Claude Williamson - piano

Red Mitchell - bass

Shelly Manne - drums

Shorty Rogers - arranger

Pink Lady

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Buddy Collette - flute

Jimmy Giuffre - clarinet

Herb Geller - alto saxophone

Bob Gordon - baritone saxophone

Red Mitchell - bass

Shelly Manne - drums

Mike Pacheco - bongo

Jack Costanza - conga

Bob Enevoldsen - claves

Claude Williamson - gourd

Pete Rugolo - arranger

Bolero de Mendez

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Buddy Collette - flute

Jimmy Giuffre - tenor saxophone

Bob Gordon - baritone saxophone

Bob Enevoldsen - vibraphone

Red Norvo - vibraphone

Claude Williamson - piano

Red Mitchell - bass

Shelly Manne - drums

Frank Erickson - arranger

Just a Pretty Tune

That Jack Millman - is that Jack Sheldon? His tune Pink Lady was on the second Curtis Counce Group LP on Contemporary.

Posted

Jazz Studio Four - Decca DL-8516

Recorded in Hollywood on May 18, 1955

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Maynard Ferguson (as Tiger Brown) - valve trombone

Buddy Collette - alto saxophone

Jack Montrose - tenor saxophone

Bob Gordon - baritone saxophone

Gerald Wiggins - piano

Curtis Counce - bass

Chico Hamilton - drums

Spud Murphy - arranger

Ballade for Jeanie

Maynard Ferguson (as Tiger Brown) - valve trombone

Buddy Collette - alto saxophone

Jack Montrose - tenor saxophone

Frank Flynn - vibraphone

Gerald Wiggins - piano

Curtis Counce - bass

Chico Hamilton - drums

Mike Pacheco - bongo

Artie Anton - conga

Fred Aguirre - timbales

Jack Millman - arranger

The Turk

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Buddy Collette - flute

Jack Montrose - tenor saxophone

Bob Gordon - baritone saxophone

Frank Flynn - vibraphone

Curtis Counce - bass

Chico Hamilton - drums

Mike Pacheco - bongo

Maynard Ferguson - claves

Artie Anton - conga

Johnny Mandell - arranger

Cathy Goes South

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Linn Halliday - tenor saxophone

Don Anderson - vibraphone

Russ Freeman (as Don Friedman) - piano

Ralph Peña - bass

Gary Frommer - drums

Bill Holman - arranger

So Goes My Love

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Linn Halliday - tenor saxophone

Don Anderson - vibraphone

Russ Freeman - piano

Don Overberg - guitar

Ralph Peña - bass

Gary Frommer - drums

Gerald Wiggins - arranger

Tom and Jerry

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Bob Enevoldsen - valve trombone

Herb Geller (as Bert Herbert) - alto saxophone

Jimmy Giuffre - tenor saxophone

Bob Gordon - baritone saxophone

Claude Williamson - piano

Howard Roberts - guitar

Red Mitchell - bass

Shelly Manne - drums

Jimmy Giuffre - arranger

Groove Juice

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Buddy Collette - flute

Bob Gordon - bass clarinet

Red Norvo (as Ken Kenney) - vibraphone

Claude Williamson - piano

Red Mitchell - bass

Shelly Manne - drums

Shorty Rogers - arranger

Pink Lady

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Buddy Collette - flute

Jimmy Giuffre - clarinet

Herb Geller - alto saxophone

Bob Gordon - baritone saxophone

Red Mitchell - bass

Shelly Manne - drums

Mike Pacheco - bongo

Jack Costanza - conga

Bob Enevoldsen - claves

Claude Williamson - gourd

Pete Rugolo - arranger

Bolero de Mendez

Jack Millman - fluegelhorn

Buddy Collette - flute

Jimmy Giuffre - tenor saxophone

Bob Gordon - baritone saxophone

Bob Enevoldsen - vibraphone

Red Norvo - vibraphone

Claude Williamson - piano

Red Mitchell - bass

Shelly Manne - drums

Frank Erickson - arranger

Just a Pretty Tune

That Jack Millman - is that Jack Sheldon? His tune Pink Lady was on the second Curtis Counce Group LP on Contemporary.

Nope, they're not the same person.

Posted

Sidewinder, I'll probably be doing a program on Graas this summer that uses those John Graas Project CDs. Picked up another one recently--COLLEGE GOES TO JAZZ--that was inexplicably put out under Jack Sheldon's name, even though he appears on only three of the CD's 22 tracks.

Posted (edited)

Thanks, Ghost - I'll look forward to that one. Yes, I noticed that the Jack Sheldon was Vol 6 in the John Graas Project. I wonder how Lonehill think these up, pretty skimpy connections to Graas at best.

Just been playing the Jazz Studio 6 Amram/Barrow set. Nice work by Amram and George Barrow is one heck of an under-rated player. His playing on this disk complements nicely the fine work with Mingus at the Bohemia. Full of interesting ideas and smoothly articulated. A good disk, this one !

Edited by sidewinder
Posted (edited)

Interesting side-note about David Amram:  he was much involved with the 1959 Beat film Pull My Daisy, for which Kerouac did the narration.

Saturday, June 4--Jazz Studio 1 and 2

Saturday, July 2--Jazz Studio 3 & 4

Saturday, August 6--Jazz Studio 5 & 6

A friend of mine who was driving cab in Toronto during the 70's once phoned to excitedly tell me that he'd just picked up David Amram and Rambling Jack Elliot in front of Rochdale College-- a place notorioius for drugs at the time.

Quote:

"Rochdale College is the University of Toronto's first co-op residence, Canada's first free university and, before long, the country's most notorious den of iniquity. Rochdale opens in the spring of 1968 as an experiment in co-operative living and student-centred education. But this university offers no structured courses, curriculum, exams, or degrees. On CBC Radio, Rochdale residents and resource people in the flush of excitement discuss what Rochdale means to them."

.........

Anyone could obtain a BA from Rochdale by donating $25 to the college and answering a skill-testing question, such as "What is the capital of Canada?" An MA was earned by donating $50. A skill-testing question still had to be answered, but the applicant got to pick the question. A PhD could be had for $100, no questions asked."

:crazy:

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