Chrome Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 I've had "Out to Lunch" for some time, but I've only recently starting really getting into it ... plus, I recently picked up Mal Waldron's disc "The Quest" with Dolphy, and I find both of these spending a lot of time in my CD player lately ... can people suggest a next Dolphy disc or two that is similar to these? I like it that music is challenging, but not too ... "free" I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Next MustHave Dolphy album should be Eric Dolphy at the Five Spot (with Booker Little). It's available on OJC. You'll get kicks out of that one! And watch out: Dolphys are very addictive substances... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Yes, the Five Spot is great stuff. It is hard to go utterly wrong with any of the Prestige albums. Another one I happen to like a lot is Out There. If you like Coltrane, you should consider The Village Vanguard material on Impulse; it features some prime Dolphy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 (edited) You also need to hear Mingus' live Antibes disc, if you haven't already. Any live Mingus w/ Dolphy is pretty much essential, in my opinion. Another disc that might not be "essential" that I really enjoy is The Illinois Concert, which Blue Note issued a few years back. It contains a beautiful version of "God Bless the Child." Edited November 12, 2004 by John B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 and Oliver Nelson's Blues and the Abstract Truth. That is another essential Dolphy sideman date. brownie put it best...you'll be hooked really quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Next MustHave Dolphy album should be Eric Dolphy at the Five Spot (with Booker Little). It's available on OJC. You'll get kicks out of that one! Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Agree with all the suggestions above. The Prestige's are all good. "Outward Bound", "Out There", the Five Spots....all of them. You can't go wrong with Dolphy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 What, no advocates for "Far Cry"? Gotta have my "Miss Ann." Gotta have my Booker Little too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJ Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 (edited) Once you hear a few of the Prestige dates, start looking for a good deal on a used copy of the COMPLETE PRESTIGE boxed set...mark my words, you're going to want to hear ALL of it once you hear a little! The box is really not a bad deal, you can generally find it used for $80 or so if you look hard enough, and that's far less than you'd pay for each of the individual CDs (there's 15 or 16 of them that you'd have to get). Plus I think the remastering in the box is VERY well done and there's a great booklet. I bring up this body of work because you mentioned a little hesitance about going too far "out"...over time you'll follow Dolphy wherever he went is my guess, as your ears become acclimated, but during the Prestige years there is more overt grounding in the hard bop of the era. Edited November 12, 2004 by DrJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Just reissued, easily found, resonably priced, and one helluva gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 "Iron Man" is the title I pull most frequently. Wish it had been a Blue Note, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Dolphy's Prestige dates are much more closer to bebop than Out to Lunch. Some really great stuff on them (my fave is Far Cry) though IMHO little of it reaches the visionary genius of Out to Lunch. I think before you tackle that stuff you should look for his stuff with Coltrane and Mingus. With Coltrane start with the Village Vanguard Sessions; there are also a bunch of boots from the '61 European tour, and Ole. With Mingus, there's Charles Mingus Presents Charles Mingus, Mingus at Antibes, Mingusx5 (Dolphy only plays one solo here, but it's smokin'), and various recordings from the '64 tour (Town Hall Concert and the recent reissue on Verve are probably the most readily available). Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Hawkins Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Last Date is nice too. Actually, it's genuinely hard to think of a constructive answer to this question, because I could honestly recommend all the Dolphy I have heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 So the good news is that there is a lot left out there (accidental pun) to love. This may be bad news to your pocketbook, but it's not like his catalog is as big as Ellington's or Zorn's. Really, every title mentioned so far are ones that I play often & enjoy greatly. At some point be sure to check out a '64 Mingus live date with Dolphy (the one Jim mentioned is a great & budget-minded choice.) These can be highly addictive, and if you find yourself hooked there are other titles such as Revenge! & Mingus In Europe from this tour available too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 (edited) "Iron Man" is the title I pull most frequently. Wish it had been a Blue Note, actually. Was this the original cover for "Iron Man"?? (Hadn't ever seen this tan cover before now, doing a search for the cover with Google just now.) Mine looks like this one (below), and is the cover I'm most familiar with (and for years I've assumed that this was the original cover, but which I'm now beginning to have my doubts about). Seriously, I think "Iron Man" is just about Dolphy's finest hour, at least in my book. Every bit as good as "Out To Lunch" -- and I prefer Woody's playing in Dolphy's context, over Hub's. (My ears tell me that Woody understood Dolphy's world better than Freddy, but maybe that's just me.) Edited November 12, 2004 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 The cover of the original LP issue of 'Iron Man'on the Douglas label is the one at top. The lower one was used for a reissue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Trying to count the number of issues for the companion, Conversations/Memorial Album is like trying to count the number of brie slices I just ate!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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