rockefeller center Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 All this would not have happened had the SR-71 not been retired.
Rooster_Ties Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Maybe it's time to nominate an additional Moderator, so threads like this can get locked a little more quickly -- when Jim and "The Fist" aren't around. But this is what I like(d) about the moderating here: very laissez-faire for the most part. I think having Sangry as an extra Moderator would not change the laissez-faire approach much at all. Sangry would only exercise the same judgement that b3-er and his bro would, at times when they weren't on-line. I wouldn't expect Sangry to need to take any action about anything but a very, very small handful of times per year -- less than you can count on one hand probably. Only when absolutely necessary, in his judgement.
Rooster_Ties Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 (edited) NO LOCKING! How can you think yourself entitled to post but deny others the same, including people who may want to respond to the latest rounds, and others who will come along later? Rather than NO locking, I would argue for the very limited use of locking. I think Jim and his bro do a great job with this currently, only locking threads when absolutely necessary. Most moderators would delete threads like this, long before they got out of control. Jim lets us hash things out a bit (sometimes quite a bit), and then every once in a blue moon - he decides it's best to close down a thread. I think this is the best way to handle things, and is very healthy for the board, in the long run. (And not deleting the thread gives everyone an opportunity to see what went down, after the fact -- so if you miss stuff in real-time, you don't miss stuff.) Edited March 17, 2005 by Rooster_Ties
king ubu Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 People leave boards of their own volition. A board shouldn't disallow people from posting and responding to posts under the duress of a person leaving. I agree but this is what happens when a small group of people have all the power. A thread on Gilad Atzmon was stopped by one of the board moderators, because a small number of people did not like the points that were being made. At the same time a smell number of people seem to be able to use whatever language they want, incite whatever flame they want and nothing is said, at least not publically. Che. Nice to see this utter b-s again being brought up here... Dude, you went all anti-semitic over there, and you STILL not getting it. No one here wants to stop free discussion and freedom of speech, but you (and that pal of yours that popped up there, too) are simply NOT up to discussion THOSE things. I said so over there, others said so, too (although a certain third party did state no one said anything...) and there was even one brave guy trying to discuss it with you. It seems you just don't listen to what others say and go on and on with you own schmontzes and then say the others don't listen to what you said. Thank you for your post. Nothankyou. ubu
andybleaden Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 True ..very true We could always start a rude word contest to see how long til he shuts it down. My go first Bellybutton
Cornelius Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 (edited) Rooster Ties You're trying to impose additional controls where none are needed. There's no need to lock this thread or any thread. It's sufficient to delete individual posts (if they're as out of bounds as a threat of actual harm) or ban individual posters. There's no need to shut down people talking about whatever they want to talk about. And there's just no need for another moderator. And that other admins would lock threads more often is hardly an argument that this forum, or any forum, should go down that road. There is no harm in allowing people to continue talking in this thread. But there is harm to our freedom by locking the thread, especially since it is important that posts in response to other posts remain attached and in continuity. Edited March 17, 2005 by Cornelius
king ubu Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 All this would not have happened had the SR-71 not been retired. Here's a photo my buddy took when we (that is him, me, and our two SR-71s) went for a flight over the alps last weekend): You haven't seriously forgotten I had such a little thing still in use, have you? Royalty needs a striking force!
Guest che Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 People leave boards of their own volition. A board shouldn't disallow people from posting and responding to posts under the duress of a person leaving. I agree but this is what happens when a small group of people have all the power. A thread on Gilad Atzmon was stopped by one of the board moderators, because a small number of people did not like the points that were being made. At the same time a smell number of people seem to be able to use whatever language they want, incite whatever flame they want and nothing is said, at least not publically. Che. Nice to see this utter b-s again being brought up here... Dude, you went all anti-semitic over there, and you STILL not getting it. No one here wants to stop free discussion and freedom of speech, but you (and that pal of yours that popped up there, too) are simply NOT up to discussion THOSE things. I said so over there, others said so, too (although a certain third party did state no one said anything...) and there was even one brave guy trying to discuss it with you. It seems you just don't listen to what others say and go on and on with you own schmontzes and then say the others don't listen to what you said. Thank you for your post. Nothankyou. ubu Once again we see the kind of person you are, a bully and one that has a very selective view of the issues raised in the debate you mention. When you have something origional to say, when you show the ability to reflect on the kind of response you may get from the general tone of your post, then we can have a discussion. Either you lack any real insight into the wider issues, or you just like to create a situation in which it can appear that I and some others are being really offensive. Either way it shows me a little insight in the kind of person you are, and that is not a person that I feel I could have a conversation with. Discussion for you seems to involve an aggressive, abusive tone and the hope that you will find enough people that share your views. I will await a response that shows me that you can infact discuss and debate, in a way that is conjusive to the development of the issues at hand. Che.
AllenLowe Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 "GOOD NOW I KNOW WHAT TO LISTEN 2 WHEN IM FUCKING THE SHIT OUT OF HER EVERY NIGHT " time for Aric to give that chicken a rest -
AllenLowe Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 "GOOD NOW I KNOW WHAT TO LISTEN 2 WHEN IM FUCKING THE SHIT OUT OF HER EVERY NIGHT " that Aric was a regular Dr. Phil -
AllenLowe Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 "GOOD NOW I KNOW WHAT TO LISTEN 2 WHEN IM FUCKING THE SHIT OUT OF HER EVERY NIGHT " incredible words of wisdom - we will miss him - almost as astute as comparing Nazism to Zionism -
Dr. Rat Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 You haven't seriously forgotten I had such a little thing still in use, have you? Royalty needs a striking force! Perhaps so, but this plane only packs a camera, I think. --eric
Cornelius Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Rooster Ties "And not deleting the thread gives everyone an opportunity to see what went down, after the fact -- so if you miss stuff in real-time, you don't miss stuff." But if you lock, it's not just a question of having missed reading in real time, but of having missed POSTING in that time. Just because YOU had a chance to get your licks in during a certain time period is no reason that others should be disallowed from getting theirs in sometime later.
RDK Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 It's official. King Ubu is one of the X-Men! B-)
Soulstation1 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 my 5 star lock this thread is goin' over 5000 views before midnight pst ss1
andybleaden Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 I think the rather sick comments above have had their day now please . I have my kids around and it is not needed any more . he has now left the building we BTW ...cool photo above BTW 2 Always puzzled me doing the work I used to how one fight ( even when calmed would start another one ( simmering away from before yet unconnected) If that is what the forum needs then let it be so ..... Perhaps some of the things around the world are not so different after all. Still it is worth remembering this is the board that I enjoy reading execpt the odd occassion. It is the board that can come up iwth a wish list for a record label and sit and count til it comes out. This is the board that can source rare and tasty pieces of jazz but this is the board that still gets into a friday night bar brawl every now and again .... Do get puzzled how long grudges here last ...seems a bit silly but there thats life Lets learn move on, crow a little may but still move on I say that of course with the toungiest cheek in the mouth iest mouth
andybleaden Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Was that the plane supposed to hit ol Osama....I am sure I can see him somewhere on the left ....or is that the embedded journalists?
7/4 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 my 5 star lock this thread is goin' over 5000 views before midnight pst ss1 I think it will happen a bit sooner.
sidewinder Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Well, I for one will very much miss Brownie's presence if he has indeed left the board and also Hans and Deuss, who both contributed very positively to this board. The fall-out from this spat is most regrettable
andybleaden Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 yeh ...who needs nasty old us time ...after this is greenwich mean time here dude rather !
sheldonm Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 For those of you reading this thread who may be unaware of Soulstaion1's "deal" with Aric that has reverberated through this board and the Blue Note for all these years it was this: Soulstaion1: Burn 6 CDs from the Blue Note box set Aric: Go to store and buy "new" "Money Jungle" CD Aric claims the burns arrived and didn't play. He also claimed he was broke. Neither is a valid excuse for backing out of the deal. Aric was a sap for getting into this deal. He agreed to trade a $10 (min) CD for $1.50 worth of illegal CDs. Aric acts like a jerk all the time and I won't miss his posts. However, Soulstation1 screwed up this board royally with this vendetta of his over an illegal deal gone south. A deal in which he was bascially ripping off Blue Note and Dexter Gordon's widow as well as Aric. Aric acts like an immature jerk, but Soulstation1 isn't far behind with his actions. I wonder if Soulstaion1 is still making deals like this? I don't many who would appreciate an offer of a burn for a new CD. Kevin Wow and I thought I was the only one some members of this board did not like Che. ...no, you were one of two!
Brad Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 As an old timer around here, losing Brownie and Hans is not a good thing. This is a very sad day for this board.
sheldonm Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 especially if many members are American, ...please explain!
AfricaBrass Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 As an old timer around here, losing Brownie and Hans is not a good thing. This is a very sad day for this board.
Guest che Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 For those of you reading this thread who may be unaware of Soulstaion1's "deal" with Aric that has reverberated through this board and the Blue Note for all these years it was this: Soulstaion1: Burn 6 CDs from the Blue Note box set Aric: Go to store and buy "new" "Money Jungle" CD Aric claims the burns arrived and didn't play. He also claimed he was broke. Neither is a valid excuse for backing out of the deal. Aric was a sap for getting into this deal. He agreed to trade a $10 (min) CD for $1.50 worth of illegal CDs. Aric acts like a jerk all the time and I won't miss his posts. However, Soulstation1 screwed up this board royally with this vendetta of his over an illegal deal gone south. A deal in which he was bascially ripping off Blue Note and Dexter Gordon's widow as well as Aric. Aric acts like an immature jerk, but Soulstation1 isn't far behind with his actions. I wonder if Soulstaion1 is still making deals like this? I don't many who would appreciate an offer of a burn for a new CD. Kevin Wow and I thought I was the only one some members of this board did not like Che. ...no, you were one of two! I'm so glad that we have taken the time to get to know each other. Che.
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