felser Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Really would like to see the Carlos Garnett Muse albums out on CD (Only Black Love has made it before, to my knowledge), and even more the two Jimmy Heath albums (the first, 'The Gap Sealer', was on Cobblestone originally). Best albums he ever did. Anyone have any knowledge of this possibly happening? Always hoped 32jazz would get around to it (I wrote them about the Heath's), broke my heart when they went under, sold the catalog, whatever it is that happened there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 (edited) I have another, later, Garnett Muse CD - Resurgence (Muse MCD 5544), recorded 1995, released 1996. Pretty good, but mining more, for lack of a better term, "mainstream" territory than Black Love. Agree w/you about The Gap Sealer (aka Jimmy. too. GREAT side, that one. Wasn't aware of a second, different, Muse/Cobblestone album, though. Details, please! 32Jazz did issue a Heath compilation, but I think it was taken from his 70s/80s Orrin Keepnews-produced sessions, including 1974's The Time and The Place, another one much in the vein of Gap Sealer. Heath really had a nice thing going with that afro/modal/post-bop/semi-electric/whatever bag, I think. Seemed/seems to me that the Heath Brothers thing was a step backward, some very nice arranging on Jimmy's part notwithstanding. Edited October 5, 2005 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fitzgerald Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 This one: Date: June 11, 1973 Location: RCA Studios, New York City Label: Muse Jimmy Heath (ldr), Jimmy Heath (f, ss, ts), Curtis Fuller (tb), Stanley Cowell (p, ep), Bob Cranshaw (eb), Billy Higgins (d, tam), Muneer Abdul Fataah [aka Bernard Fennell] (vc) a. a-01 One For Juan - 07:03 (Jimmy Heath) b. a-02 In A Sentimental Mood - 05:07 (Duke Ellington, Irving Mills, Manny Kurtz) c. a-03 Heads Up! Feet Down! - 07:11 (Jimmy Heath) d. b-01 Far Away Lands - 05:03 (Jimmy Heath) e. b-02 Smilin' Billy - 05:48 (Jimmy Heath) f. b-03 Gemini - 07:51 (Jimmy Heath) All titles on: - Muse LP 12": MR 5028 - Love And Understanding c. listed as Hands Up! Feet Down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 (edited) Did Jimmy record 'Far Away Lands' before this date, or is Hank Mobley's the first version on record? Bertrand. Edited October 5, 2005 by bertrand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest akanalog Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 lots of good muse cobblestone stuff- the grubbs brothers had some decent stuff, more kenny barron, more eric kloss, some neal creque, steve kuhn... gapsealer is a nice album for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fitzgerald Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 I believe those are the ONLY two recordings of Far Away Lands. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 This one: Date: June 11, 1973 Location: RCA Studios, New York City Label: Muse Jimmy Heath (ldr), Jimmy Heath (f, ss, ts), Curtis Fuller (tb), Stanley Cowell (p, ep), Bob Cranshaw (eb), Billy Higgins (d, tam), Muneer Abdul Fataah [aka Bernard Fennell] (vc) a. a-01 One For Juan - 07:03 (Jimmy Heath) b. a-02 In A Sentimental Mood - 05:07 (Duke Ellington, Irving Mills, Manny Kurtz) c. a-03 Heads Up! Feet Down! - 07:11 (Jimmy Heath) d. b-01 Far Away Lands - 05:03 (Jimmy Heath) e. b-02 Smilin' Billy - 05:48 (Jimmy Heath) f. b-03 Gemini - 07:51 (Jimmy Heath) All titles on: - Muse LP 12": MR 5028 - Love And Understanding c. listed as Hands Up! Feet Down! ← Ok, I've got that one on a Xanadu CD - Xanadu XCD 1231 - Love And Understanding No mention anywhere that it was originally on Muse, but now that you mention it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fitzgerald Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Yeah - I got thrown for a loop on another one like that - Payne & Jordan: Brooklyn Brothers. LP on Muse, CD on Prevue "under license from Xanadu Records Ltd." Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Yeah - I got thrown for a loop on another one like that - Payne & Jordan: Brooklyn Brothers. LP on Muse, CD on Prevue "under license from Xanadu Records Ltd." Mike ← All the result of a Schlitten/Fields divorce that took about a decade in the courts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 lots of good muse cobblestone stuff- the grubbs brothers had some decent stuff...← In My Youth made it to a Muse CD, but that that's it. as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted October 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 lots of good muse cobblestone stuff- the grubbs brothers had some decent stuff...← In My Youth made it to a Muse CD, but that that's it. as far as I know. ← In My Youth was the only one on CD. Grubbs Brothers were from here in Philly (still live here). Amazingly, all four of the albums by the other great Philly jazz group of the era, Catalyst (Odean Pope, Eddie Green, Tyrone Brown, Sherman Ferguson) were put out by 32jazz in one great 2CD set. Bet that one sold about 12 other copies in addition to mine. Cobblestone did have some nice stuff. Not many remember at this point, but the first couple of Norman Connors albums were pretty great. Something sticks in my mind that "Faraway Lands" was on the expanded version of Art Farmer's 'The Time and the Place' that came out in the early 80's (mid-60's live recordings by the Farmer/Heath quintet),. but I don't remember for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest akanalog Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 i like catalyst. i bought those discs. i wish they came out sepreately since i like them in varying degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fitzgerald Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Negative - Title: The Time And The Place Artist: Art Farmer Format: LP 12" Label: Columbia Cat. Num.: C2 38232 Rel. Year: 1982 04:25 02/08/1967 CO92093 The Time And The Place 07:12 02/08/1967 CO92095 The Shadow Of Your Smile 09:01 02/08/1967 CO92089 One For Juan 05:48 02/08/1967 CO92091 Nino's Scene 05:27 02/08/1967 CO92094 Shortcake 06:58 02/08/1967 CO92090 Make Someone Happy 02:36 02/08/1967 CO92092 On The Trail 07:48 02/08/1967 Blue Bossa 08:58 02/08/1967 Is That So? 11:52 02/08/1967 Dailey Bread 02:58 06/07/1967 CO92235 Satin Doll 03:46 06/07/1967 CO92234 Misty Art Farmer (ldr), Jimmy Heath (ts), Art Farmer (fh), Cedar Walton (p), Walter Booker (b), Mickey Roker (d) ========== Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted October 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Thx Mike. Sure wish that one would come out on CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Thx Mike. Sure wish that one would come out on CD. ← It is; on a double cd with Baroque Sketches. I have the original LP but that one does not have the last 5 songs that the re-issue did. Those Jimmy Heaths are great; I have them all and remember seeing that Heath band that is on Love and Understanding on Chris Albertson's jazz show that was broadcast on Public Television. Art Farmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Felser, Are you sure about the Grubbs brothers living in Philly? I see Carl occasionally, and I'm pretty sure he lives in Baltimore. As for Earl, he passed away quite a while ago. I don't know the cirumstances, but I know it deeply affected Carl. Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted October 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 lots of good muse cobblestone stuff- the grubbs brothers had some decent stuff...← In My Youth made it to a Muse CD, but that that's it. as far as I know. ← In My Youth was the only one on CD. Grubbs Brothers were from here in Philly (still live here). Amazingly, all four of the albums by the other great Philly jazz group of the era, Catalyst (Odean Pope, Eddie Green, Tyrone Brown, Sherman Ferguson) were put out by 32jazz in one great 2CD set. Bet that one sold about 12 other copies in addition to mine. Cobblestone did have some nice stuff. Not many remember at this point, but the first couple of Norman Connors albums were pretty great. Something sticks in my mind that "Faraway Lands" was on the expanded version of Art Farmer's 'The Time and the Place' that came out in the early 80's (mid-60's live recordings by the Farmer/Heath quintet),. but I don't remember for sure. ← Can't find the post on who questioned Grubbs still being in Philly, but you're right, turns out he's in Maryland now. Was in Philly for a good while (I remember seeing him listed for the MillCreek jazz center workshops, etc.). http://www.carlgrubbs.com/CARLPAGES/ABOUT.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Negative - Title: The Time And The Place Artist: Art Farmer Format: LP 12" Label: Columbia Cat. Num.: C2 38232 Rel. Year: 1982 04:25 02/08/1967 CO92093 The Time And The Place 07:12 02/08/1967 CO92095 The Shadow Of Your Smile 09:01 02/08/1967 CO92089 One For Juan 05:48 02/08/1967 CO92091 Nino's Scene 05:27 02/08/1967 CO92094 Shortcake 06:58 02/08/1967 CO92090 Make Someone Happy 02:36 02/08/1967 CO92092 On The Trail 07:48 02/08/1967 Blue Bossa 08:58 02/08/1967 Is That So? 11:52 02/08/1967 Dailey Bread 02:58 06/07/1967 CO92235 Satin Doll 03:46 06/07/1967 CO92234 Misty Art Farmer (ldr), Jimmy Heath (ts), Art Farmer (fh), Cedar Walton (p), Walter Booker (b), Mickey Roker (d) ========== Mike ← If and when they do reissue this session, I hope it's without the overdubbed applause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Why pay rent when you can buy Catalyst's 2-CD set for $53, or Eric Kloss's Doors for $250? Jeebus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted September 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Why pay rent when you can buy Catalyst's 2-CD set for $53, or Eric Kloss's Doors for $250? Jeebus. I actually would make the case that the Catalyst is worth $53, as it is a 2 CD set containing four full albums. That being said, it should be available for a good bit less than that if you are patient (I sold an extra one on ebay for about half of that earlier this year). They were a great early 70's group from Philly, Odean Pope was a monster with them. Eddie Green, the great Tyrone Brown (also a wonderfully kind person), Sherman Ferguson. Classic stuff on their first three albums, though the fourth drifted too commercial, probably in frustration to them being ignored in the marketplace (as was Cobblestone/Muse in general, a crime). $250 for the Kloss is another matter altogether, as much as I like him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Did anyone pick up the Andorran issue of The Gap Sealer, which contains "bonus" tracks from Love and Understanding? Dusty Groove pulled it from their site (at least for the time being), and I wonder if there might be some legal issues (finally) at stake. My personal choice is to not support the Andorrans (though I did own two titles at one time), but I'd like to hear this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Late: there's another threat about that reissue in the reissues section..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 (edited) Title: The Time And The Place Artist: Art Farmer Format: LP 12" Label: Columbia Cat. Num.: C2 38232 Rel. Year: 1982 04:25 02/08/1967 CO92093 The Time And The Place 07:12 02/08/1967 CO92095 The Shadow Of Your Smile 09:01 02/08/1967 CO92089 One For Juan 05:48 02/08/1967 CO92091 Nino's Scene 05:27 02/08/1967 CO92094 Shortcake 06:58 02/08/1967 CO92090 Make Someone Happy 02:36 02/08/1967 CO92092 On The Trail 07:48 02/08/1967 Blue Bossa 08:58 02/08/1967 Is That So? 11:52 02/08/1967 Dailey Bread 02:58 06/07/1967 CO92235 Satin Doll 03:46 06/07/1967 CO92234 Misty Art Farmer (ldr), Jimmy Heath (ts), Art Farmer (fh), Cedar Walton (p), Walter Booker (b), Mickey Roker (d) ========== .... If and when they do reissue this session, I hope it's without the overdubbed applause. Mosaic reissued the live portion of this set: 1. On The Trail 10:00 (Ferde Grofe) 2. Band announcement 0:46 3. Far Away Lands 6:36 (Jimmy Heath) 4. The Shadow Of Your Smile 14:15 (J. Mandel-P. F. Webster) 5. Dailey Bread 11:41 (Albert Dailey) 6. Blue Bossa 7:40 (Kenny Dorham) 7. Is That So? 8:40 (Duke Pearson) 8. The Time And The Place 10:24 (Jimmy Heath) Art Farmer - fluegelhorn Jimmy Heath - tenor saxophone Albert Dailey - piano Walter Booker - bass Mickey Roker - drums Produced by Teo Macero Recorded live at The Museum Of Modern Art, New York City on August 18, 1966 Recording engineers: Tony Janek and Buddy Graham Produced for release by Michael Cuscuna Remixed in 24 bit from the original three-track tapes and mastered by Mark Wilder, Sony Studios #5-7 originally issued on Columbia C-38232. All other selections are previously unissued. Edited September 26, 2008 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Dusty Groove is currently offering a fair amount of Muse titles for $4.99. Also at $4.99, check out the titles on Landmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Joe is dumping his secret stash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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