trane_fanatic Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm a OutKast and hip-hop fan in general, but this is redeckuless... http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=3960#comment-88709 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “[Andre ‘3000′] Benjamin is also currently working on a new jazz project tenatively titled “Kind of Black: Benjamin on Davis” in which he reworks the classic 1959 work “Kind of Blue” by Miles Davis. Benjamin is to be joined on the project by two Grammy-winners: Acclaimed trumpeter Wynton Marsalis and popular Roots drummer/producer Ahmir “?uestlove” Thompson.” - USA Today If Andre’s past reverence for jazz classics is any indication, this will surely make Doo-Bop sound like Illmatic. And Wynton must be real hard up for cash to be collaborating with those oh so ignorant rap types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 To the contrary, I would bet that Miles would totally DIG it. He never liked to look back at his old stuff and was always trying to stay contemporary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 To the contrary, I would bet that Miles would totally DIG it. He never liked to look back at his old stuff and was always trying to stay contemporary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trane_fanatic Posted August 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 To the contrary, I would bet that Miles would totally DIG it. He never liked to look back at his old stuff and was always trying to stay contemporary. Andre's Prince imitations on The Love Below were awful and their new Idlewild soundtrack is pretty lame stuff too. I just don't know that Miles would want a pale imitation of one of his masterpeices especially with his old buddy Wynton on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 To the contrary, I would bet that Miles would totally DIG it. He never liked to look back at his old stuff and was always trying to stay contemporary. Andre's Prince imitations on The Love Below were awful and their new Idlewild soundtrack is pretty lame stuff too. I just don't know that Miles would want a pale imitation of one of his masterpeices especially with his old buddy Wynton on them. I loved "The Love Below" and I'm really looking forward to the "Idlewild" soundtrack. The thing that interests me is that ?uestlove is involved in this project. That man has some of the best ears in music today. I can't imagine that any project he's involved with would be anything less than good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 To the contrary, I would bet that Miles would totally DIG it. He never liked to look back at his old stuff and was always trying to stay contemporary. i am even quite certain that he will like the 3000 Kind of Blue much much better than I will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyo Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 To the contrary, I would bet that Miles would totally DIG it. He never liked to look back at his old stuff and was always trying to stay contemporary. If reworking those old recordings isn't "looking back at his old stuff" then what is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Andre 3K's involvement don't scare me none, but Wynton's sure do!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Why don't they just do something new together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Why don't they just do something new together? Why does Hollywood keep re-making old TV shows and Movies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with the Golden Arm Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Shipp vs AntiPop Consortium tipped "All Blues" not badly a few years ago (save for some silly rapping ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Why don't they just do something new together? Why does Hollywood keep re-making old TV shows and Movies? Why do jazz musicians keep revisting the standards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Very true. Let's promote a new policy - only new music on all records! No more covering standards by jazz musicians and reinterpreting them. That would be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Why do jazz musicians keep revisting the standards? That's what they're trained to do. I have no idea what they have in mind with a "rework", which is apparently different than a remix. Wynton strikes me as the odd duck in this scenario. Are we going to be hearing his trumpet next to Miles'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm wondering what Andre will do vocally where this material is concerned. An odd idea all the way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Why don't they just do something new together? Why does Hollywood keep re-making old TV shows and Movies? Why do jazz musicians keep revisting the standards? This isn't quite the same as playing any old standard. This is about reworking one of the most revered albums of all time. Expectations are a bit higher. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) There has already been one album in which hip hop artists took old Miles Davis albums and reworked them: Panthalassa: The Remixes Several of the efforts on that album sounded nothing like the Miles Davis albums that they were working with. Some of them, to my ears anyway, were electronic sound effects with the Miles Davis album barely audible at times, far in the background. I wonder if this new effort will be any more interesting. Edited August 21, 2006 by Hot Ptah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Wynton? Working w/Andre 3K & ?love? WTF? I'm not saying its a bad idea, hell - fuck "reverence" and all that shit (reverence is not the same as love, not even slightly), but geez - how is Stanley going to spin this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 It's the business of today. Personally I think OutKast/Andre 3000 are/is over hyped. Maybe not as much as the Blackeyed Peas, but close. A better choice could have been made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trane_fanatic Posted August 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) Why don't they just do something new together? Why does Hollywood keep re-making old TV shows and Movies? Why do jazz musicians keep revisting the standards? This isn't quite the same as playing any old standard. This is about reworking one of the most revered albums of all time. Expectations are a bit higher. Guy My thoughts exactly. OutKast put out four classic hip-hop albums and, unfortunately, have been media darlings ever since for experimenting with stuff they would have been better off leaving alone. If some newbies had released overpraised garbage like "Speakerboxx/The Love Below", they would have been luck to sell 100 copies. Edited August 21, 2006 by trane_fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md655321 Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 I thought the love below was absolutely brilliant, and Questlove is an absolute monster. I can't imagine anyone thinking The Love Below is overrated or mediocre, let alone poor. As a few others have stated, its Wynton who is the odd man out here. I guess he could probably ape Miles pretty well, but he certainly doesnt match Miles attitude at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkertown Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Oh, the humanity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 if bud and chet can do an album MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR, than andre 3000 can make kind of black. frankly that albums needs some change after so long. its not coltranes best, its not miles best (...that would be belgrade, yugoslavia, fall of 1971). trust me andres no idiot he knows a lot about production and it'll be ok. its gonna be a lot better than godamn us3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 its gonna be a lot better than godamn us3. Not to be hatin' on US3, but I'd have to concur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD45 Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 It's the business of today. Personally I think OutKast/Andre 3000 are/is over hyped. Maybe not as much as the Blackeyed Peas, but close. A better choice could have been made. Word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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