Mosaics

[Soul Stream]

Man, I haven't looked at Ebay Mosaic Box Set prices in a looooong time. Did tonight, and it makes me wonder how much I reallllly need some of my sets. Damn, prices have really gone through the roof. Especially LP sets. I saw a John Hardee set I believe go for over $1,300?!!!!

[sidewinder]

There's a Quebec/Hardee set currently up with a 'buy it now' of $1075. Don't miss !

[kh1958]

It's some form of collectors mania. Mosaic sets are nice, but I would rather have 100 OJCs that one Mosaic set.

[J Larsen]

I was just going to post words of similar effect. For all the complaining I occassionally do about various recordings being OOP, the fact is that there are more good in-print cds than I can reasonably expect to even find the time to listen to. For the most part, I stay away from the collector's market. (But if anyone has a spare Chico Hamilton set they'd like to sell me....)

[ghost of miles]

If it's a set of Blue Note recordings, there still seems to be a decent chance that most of the material will resurface on individual CDs after the Mosaic goes OOP--witness the Andrew Hill, Jackie McLean, and Art Blakey sets.

[Kevin Bresnahan]

I still think that there were a couple of shill bidders driving that Quebec/Hardee 3 CD set to that price. The "winning bidder" has no history of that kind of spending, and a majoity of his previous purchases weren't even music. I'd be willing to bet that the second place bidder got an E-mail claiming that the winner stiffed him and "would he like to buy the set at your last bid"?

I knew that eBay's new "Bidder 1", "Bidder 2" stuff was going to create this situation. We now have no way to know if the losing bidders were shills or not. It used to be a piece of cake to check the bidding history of the losers to see if they were legit. Now, let the shills rule!

BTW, eBay probably loves shills. They get a cut of the final selling price. They could care less how that price got up there.

[Ken Dryden]

I wasn't aware of the new "Buyer 1, then Buyer 2" ebay rule, but that will keep me from bidding in the future. Ebay has not done enough to protect buyers from crooks on the site. The first thing they ought to do would be to require sellers to accept Visa/Mastercard. That would put a lot of the dishonest folks out of business.

[Aggie87]

I wasn't aware of the new "Buyer 1, then Buyer 2" ebay rule, but that will keep me from bidding in the future. Ebay has not done enough to protect buyers from crooks on the site. The first thing they ought to do would be to require sellers to accept Visa/Mastercard. That would put a lot of the dishonest folks out of business.

How would the "regular guy" like myself sell things on Ebay then? I don't have a means to accept Visa/Mastercard payments from buyers.

edited for typo.

Edited March 30, 2007 by Aggie87

[J.A.W.]

I wasn't aware of the new "Buyer 1, then Buyer 2" ebay rule, but that will keep me from bidding in the future. Ebay has not done enough to protect buyers from crooks on the site. The first thing they ought to do would be to require sellers to accept Visa/Mastercard. That would put a lot of the dishonest folks out of business.

How would the "regular guy" like myself self things on Ebay then? I don't have a means to accept Visa/Mastercard payments from buyers.

Neither do I. I'm not a professional seller, I'm only selling stuff from my own CD collection now and then, and there's no way I could accept credit cards.

Edited March 30, 2007 by J.A.W.

[Eric]

I still think that there were a couple of shill bidders driving that Quebec/Hardee 3 CD set to that price. The "winning bidder" has no history of that kind of spending, and a majoity of his previous purchases weren't even music. I'd be willing to bet that the second place bidder got an E-mail claiming that the winner stiffed him and "would he like to buy the set at your last bid"?

I knew that eBay's new "Bidder 1", "Bidder 2" stuff was going to create this situation. We now have no way to know if the losing bidders were shills or not. It used to be a piece of cake to check the bidding history of the losers to see if they were legit. Now, let the shills rule!

BTW, eBay probably loves shills. They get a cut of the final selling price. They could care less how that price got up there.

I have held back bidding on some deals for the same reasons. I think "Bidder 1", "Bidder 2" just means you don't bid on those deals? What was the purpose behind this - to "protect" large well-know bidders? Can the seller see the bid history for those folks? Seems the only way an auction really works - esp online - is with complete transparency.

[Dave Garrett]

I wasn't aware of the new "Buyer 1, then Buyer 2" ebay rule, but that will keep me from bidding in the future. Ebay has not done enough to protect buyers from crooks on the site. The first thing they ought to do would be to require sellers to accept Visa/Mastercard. That would put a lot of the dishonest folks out of business.

How would the "regular guy" like myself sell things on Ebay then? I don't have a means to accept Visa/Mastercard payments from buyers.

edited for typo.

You can accept credit card-funded payments with a PayPal premier account, but there are fees associated with doing so. I see eBay sellers complain about the fees all the time (and it's not uncommon to see auction descriptions that state "only PayPal payments funded by bank account will be accepted"), but I believe they're not really out of line with the merchant fees credit card companies charge to process transactions.

Caveat: I haven't looked at the PayPal seller fees in a while, as I don't do a lot of selling on eBay.

[mikelz777]

I wasn't aware of the new "Buyer 1, then Buyer 2" ebay rule, but that will keep me from bidding in the future. Ebay has not done enough to protect buyers from crooks on the site. The first thing they ought to do would be to require sellers to accept Visa/Mastercard. That would put a lot of the dishonest folks out of business.

How would the "regular guy" like myself sell things on Ebay then? I don't have a means to accept Visa/Mastercard payments from buyers.

edited for typo.

You can accept credit card-funded payments with a PayPal premier account, but there are fees associated with doing so. I see eBay sellers complain about the fees all the time (and it's not uncommon to see auction descriptions that state "only PayPal payments funded by bank account will be accepted"), but I believe they're not really out of line with the merchant fees credit card companies charge to process transactions.

Caveat: I haven't looked at the PayPal seller fees in a while, as I don't do a lot of selling on eBay.

I think the fee is 4.7% + $0.30 or something like that.

[Brad]

For transactions up to $3,000, it's 2.9 percent, plus thirty cents. There's been a lot of discussion about this Bidder 1, etc. That kicks in when an auction hits $200. Also, unlike before, you can't see all the auctions a biddier is currently bidding on or the auctions a bidder hasn't won. You could do that in the past but now you only get to see completed auctions that a bidder has won. It's definitely not a move for the better but there may have been some privacy concerns.

[Brad]

I just took a look at the completed auctions and except for the Hardee set, nothing's really out of the ordinary. Now, that is a hard set get in Cd, much easier in vinyl to get, but $1,300, that's a little absurd. Wish I had the set to sell.