The John Coltrane Reference

[Leeway]

There are occasions where a photo is listed but for some reason (publisher, editor, author oversight) the photo is not actually inserted. I suppose comparison with other copies will tell the tale. Especially in a big book like this.

BTW, the book is now available in paperback for under $60. Time to pull the trigger? Or is this one of those books that need to be in hardcover?

Edited November 25, 2013 by Leeway

[king ubu]

I discussed it all in detail with David Wild before posting here - my copy misses a couple of dozen (prob. glossy) "inserted" (un-numbered) photo pages. That's just fact. And I hate to discover this so late in the game ... waiting for Routledge to answer my inquiry now.

And no, definitely no hardcover needed I'd say, though it helps keeping the book in good shape (it's about 2 inches thick and comes in A4 format, close to US letter format - the US edition might be letter, what do I know ... but the yurpeen one should have them photos, too).

[alankin]

I have the paperback edition and the photos are there.

[ghost of miles]

Saw this discussion on the Coltrane listserv and will check my copy tonight.

[erwbol]

I almost bought the hardback a while ago when prices started to drop on amazon.co.uk. They still don't have the paperback in stock, but amazon.de has it for €42,95. Would make a good holiday present for myself.

[erwbol]

The paperback edition is now available for £28 on amazon.co.uk. (Naturally, I just ordered a copy.)

[king ubu]

Well, Routledge promised to rectify the situation (by offering to send me the paperback) ... haven't received it yet, but I'm okay with that. Still sucks to have spent so much money on a faulty copy.

[Pim]

So happy to have recieved a paperback copy for my birthday/Christmas by my wife. This is one impressive reference. The amount of information and details is amazing. This one’s going to be in my music room

I’d dare to say that for the die hard Coltrane fan this book is not to be missed. 

[mjzee]

4 hours ago, Pim said:

So happy to have recieved a paperback copy for my birthday/Christmas by my wife. This is one impressive reference. The amount of information and details is amazing. This one’s going to be in my music room

I’d dare to say that for the die hard Coltrane fan this book is not to be missed. 

Just keep in mind there are two concurrent timelines in the book - the sessionography is kept separate.  I found myself going back and forth between the first half of the book and the second.  But there is a lot of depth.  Enjoy!

[romualdo]

On 12/25/2023 at 6:03 AM, Pim said:

So happy to have recieved a paperback copy for my birthday/Christmas by my wife. This is one impressive reference. The amount of information and details is amazing. This one’s going to be in my music room

I’d dare to say that for the die hard Coltrane fan this book is not to be missed. 

Agreed, I thought this was one of the most comprehensive single musician reference texts when I received my copy over 10 years ago but for me this has now been surpassed by the Rick Lopez Magnum Opus "The Sam Rivers Sessionography"

[Pim]

According to the book. Coltrane invited Wes Montgomery to join his band in 1962 but Wes declined the offer. Coltrane was with Dolphy at the time and was playing quite a lot in that new direction those days. He played for a week with Wes there at the West Coast. I wonder how they fit together. Fascinating. 

[mhatta]

I've heard rumors about a live recording of the Coltrane group featuring Wes Montgomery (at the Newport Jazz Festival?), but it might just be a rumor. But since there was even a live recording of Giant Steps (awful sound though), it might surface eventually.  Wes had pieces like “Impressions” in his repertoire, so I imagine he would have fit right in.

[Ken Dryden]

1 hour ago, mhatta said:

I've heard rumors about a live recording of the Coltrane group featuring Wes Montgomery (at the Newport Jazz Festival?), but it might just be a rumor. But since there was even a live recording of Giant Steps (awful sound though), it might surface eventually.  Wes had pieces like “Impressions” in his repertoire, so I imagine he would have fit right in.

Zev Feldman has been trying to locate a tape of the Monterey Jazz Festival gig featuring John Coltrane with both Eric Dolphy and Wes Montgomery, but he has been unsuccessful. It is possible that the tape never existed at all, or it was misfiled, lost or stolen. There was also a gig within the time period at a club in Oakland, though no tape is known.