Jazzdog Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 (edited) 27!! I plan on getting the Morgan, Young and Hill Conns when they come out next month to collection bring the total to 30. The ones I had passed on that are no longer available outnumber than the ones I have sold, and those I do not miss much. I never got into the All Seeing Eye but am looking forward to checking it out again as an RVG. I have been on the fence about getting rid of the Coles Conn, but this has some good playing by Hendu, but I'd gladly swap with someone for Third Season, Steppin Out or Stop and Listen!!! Edited September 16, 2003 by Jazzdog Quote
Jazzdog Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 i do not know what this research shows...except i got really sick of the more hard boppish side of blue note. I hope you got at least a fucking good trade in for these!! Quote
king ubu Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 I have as many as I could find - came to know the series only as late as 1997 or 1998. Those I don't have: Whistle Stop, The Connection, Heavy Soul, A Slice of the Top, the Dodo Greene one Those I have in Mosaics or as TOCJs or RVGs (and therefore did not pick up as Conns even if I could have): Basra, the Hills, the Parlans, The All Seeing Eye, Leeway, True Blue, The Connection Conn LPs I have: Symphony for Improvisers, Congregation, Davis Cup, Ready for Freddie, Empty Foxhole Then I have only picked up the Byrd/Watkins from the last batch (for 10$!) so far. I'm actually no completist of this particular series, but this is the easiest way to get those sessions for me. Japanese stuff hardly ever shows up here, and if, it's horrendously priced (up to 30$ per CD). ubu Quote
RDK Posted September 17, 2003 Report Posted September 17, 2003 I'm not a completist since I do plan on getting rid of that god awful Dodo Greene disc! Glad to take it off your hands! I passed this one up years ago, but I'm such an Ike fan (and Grant Green) that I want it anyway--neither one will be putting out new records again. Just curious--why do you guys regard this as one of the worst Conns? Are her vocals really that bad? Not that I listen to her disc that often, but I don't think Dodo's album is bad at all. She's no Ella, but her vocals are okay and the disc has some tasty playing by Ike Quebec and (iirc) Grant Green. Quote
Ed S Posted September 17, 2003 Report Posted September 17, 2003 I'm with Ray on the Dodo disc. It's grown on me over the years, so I'm glad I didn't dump it after the first time I heard it! My reaction on first listen was something along the lines of "What the hell is this?" Of course, I was way more hard bop oriented when I first picked it up and It certainly does not fit the hard bop Blue Note mold by any means. I'll put it on every once in a while and do enjoy both the singing and music. Dodo lives and sings weekly in the Buffalo, NY area where I live. I have not seen her in years, but I picked up a copy of her CD for my parents for Christmas. They took it to one of her shows and got it autographed. Dodo was thrilled that they took the time and interest in tracking down the recording. Quote
ghost of miles Posted September 17, 2003 Report Posted September 17, 2003 Thanks for the opinions, Ray & Ed. I'm really looking forward to hearing it. Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted September 17, 2003 Author Report Posted September 17, 2003 I'm not a completist since I do plan on getting rid of that god awful Dodo Greene disc! Don't do it, JK!!! Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted September 17, 2003 Author Report Posted September 17, 2003 (But Paul, you got rid of Sonny's Imperial Sessions? ) How come I'm the only one fessing up to dumping certain Conns? Yeah, I just got sick of the songs awful quickly. They were short and seemed to lack meat. And that alto sounded screetchy after awhile. Quote
Brad Posted September 17, 2003 Report Posted September 17, 2003 (edited) (But Paul, you got rid of Sonny's Imperial Sessions? ) How come I'm the only one fessing up to dumping certain Conns? Yeah, I just got sick of the songs awful quickly. They were short and seemed to lack meat. And that alto sounded screetchy after awhile. I think that could be an initial impression because the more I listened to it, the more I loved that disc (how you cannot love Sonny Clark) and started really to appreciate what and how he was playing. They're recordings that really grew on me and by the time I had finished listening and I must listened for about a week, I couldn't believe how good they were. BTW, I have 35. I think I may have gotten rid of one. I know I didn't buy some that I had as japanese versions, such as the Wilkerson. Edited September 17, 2003 by Brad Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted September 17, 2003 Author Report Posted September 17, 2003 Well just mark it up as another one I shouldn't have dumped. It wouldn't be the first time. Quote
Soulstation1 Posted September 17, 2003 Report Posted September 17, 2003 is it possible to pin/stickey the complete conn list at the beginning of this thread? it would seem easier to count them up... i have never gotten rid of a conn disc and never will. i still haven't heard those 2 bonus tina brooks tracks. ss1 Quote
Al in NYC Posted September 17, 2003 Report Posted September 17, 2003 I have 56, not including "Lift Every Voice," which I dumped (and I'm a huge Hill fan...). Can't believe the stuff some of you have dumped! I would guess (hope) that you burned 'em before you let some of these go. "Some Other Stuff, " for instance, is one of my favorite sessions of its time, and quite rare even for a Conn. And I'll gladly take any copies of "Blues in Trinity" or "Basra" that someone doesn't want... Quote
Late Posted September 17, 2003 Report Posted September 17, 2003 (edited) Here's an updated list of the Connoisseur Series. It's slightly different than Couw's list as it adds in the West Coast Classics Series. Feel free to post any corrections! Series I (1994) Ornette Coleman – The Empty Foxhole Don Cherry – Symphony for Imrovisers Cliff Jordan and John Gilmore – Blowing in from Chicago Kenny Dorham – Whistle Stop Freddie Redd – “The Connection” Andrew Hill - Judgment J.R. Monterose – J.R. Monterose Bobby Hutcherson – Components Wayne Shorter – The All-Seeing Eye Johnny Griffin – The Congregation Tina Brooks – True Blue Baby Face Willette – Stop and Listen Series II (1995) Jackie McLean – Destination Out! Grant Geen – Green Street Grachan Moncur III – Some Other Stuff Wayne Shorter - Schizophrenia Andrew Hill – Smokestack Lee Morgan - Leeway Ike Quebec – Heavy Soul Pete La Roca - Basra Dizzy Reece – Blues in Trinity Freddie Hubbard – Ready for Freddie Lou Donaldson – Sunny Side Up Walter Davis Jr. – Davis Cup Series III (1995) Lee Morgan – The Procrastinator Grant Green - Solid Wayne Shorter – Etcetera Bobby Hutcherson - Patterns Hank Mobley – A Slice of the Top Series IV (1996) Grant Green – Sunday Mornin’ Donald Byrd – Byrd in Flight Here Comes Louis Smith Johnny Coles – Little Johnny C Jack Wilson – Something Personal Paul Chambers – Paul Chambers Quintet Ike Quebec – Soul Samba Harold Vick – Steppin’ Out John Jenkins – John Jenkins with Kenny Burrell Jutta Hipp – Jutta Hipp with Zoot Sims Sonny Red – Out of the Blue Dodo Greene – My Hour of Need Series V- (1997) Jackie McLean – Swing, Swang, Swingin’ Art Blakey – Orgy in Rhythm Vols. 1 & 2 Clifford Jordan – Cliff Craft Sonny Clark – Dial S for Sonny Horace Parlan – Us Three Horace Silver – Further Explorations Series VI (1997) Freddie Hubbard – Goin’ Up Bobby Hutcherson – Stick-up! Booker Ervin – The In Between Bennie Green – Soul Stirrin’ Jackie McLean – ‘Bout Soul Baby Face Willette – Face to Face Series VII (1998) Freddie Redd – Shades of Redd Horace Parlan – On the Spur of the Moment Larry Young – Into Somethin’ Ike Quebec – It Might As Well Be Spring Tina Brooks – Back to the Tracks Fred Jackson – Hootin’ and Tootin’ Series VIII (1998) Sonny Clark – Sonny’s Crib Hank Mobley – Third Season Lee Morgan - Infinity Art Blakey - Africaine Jimmy Smith – Softly as a Summer Breeze Bobby Hutcherson - Medina/Spiral Series IX (1998) Julius Watkins – Julius Watkins Sextet Vols. 1 & 2 Sal Salvador Quintet / Kenton Presents... Howard McGhee Vol. 1 / Introducing Kenny Drew Howard McGhee Vol. 2 / Tal Farlow Quartet Frank Foster/George Wallington - Showcase Gil Mellé - The Complete Fifties Sessions Series X (1998) Chet Baker & Russ Freeman - Quartet with Russ Freeman Cy Touff - His Octet & Quintet Bill Perkins - On Stage Jack Montrose - Sextet Jack Sheldon - The Quartet & The Quintet Bud Shank/Bill Perkins Curtis Amy & Dupree Bolton - Katanga Earl Anderza - Outa Sight Bob Brookmeyer - Traditionalism Revisited Teddy Edwards - Sunset Eyes Gerry Mulligan Quartet - Original Quartet with Chet Baker Bud Shank & Bob Cooper - Blowin’ Country Series XI (1999) Grant Green – Blues for Lou Bobby Hutcherson – The Kicker Jimmy Smith – Six Views of the Blues Art Blakey – Drums Around The Corner Lou Donaldson – A Man with a Horn Dizzy Reece – Comin’ On Various Artists – The Lost Sessions Series XII (2000) Andrew Hill – Grass Roots Don Cherry – Complete Communion Tina Brooks – Minor Move Lee Morgan – Taru Sonny Clark – My Conception Jackie McLean – Vertigo Kenny Burrell - Introducing Kenny Burrell Stanley Turrentine with the 3 Sounds - The Complete Blue Hour Sesions Sonny Criss - The Complete Imperial Sessions Series XIII (2001) Hank Mobley – Straight No Filter Andrew Hill – Lift Every Voice Booker Ervin – Structurally Sound Grant Green – First Session Don Wilkerson – The Complete Blue Note Sessions George Braith – The Complete Blue Note Sessions Series XIV (2002) Tina Brooks – The Waiting Game Freddie Redd – Redd’s Blues Hank Mobley – Thinking of Home Jackie McLean – Jacknife Chick Corea – The Complete Is Donald Byrd/Doug Watkins – The Complete Transition Sessions Series XV (2003) Andrew Hill: Passing Ships Larry Young: Mothership Charlie Rouse: Bossa Nova Bacchanal Lee Morgan: Sonic Boom Hank Mobley: The Flip Sam Rivers: Fuchsia Swing Song Edited September 17, 2003 by Late Quote
jacknife Posted September 17, 2003 Report Posted September 17, 2003 I'm not a completist since I do plan on getting rid of that god awful Dodo Greene disc! Don't do it, JK!!! Done deal, I am now 100% Dodo free. Whew...I feel like a new man! Quote
ghost of miles Posted September 17, 2003 Report Posted September 17, 2003 His "loss" will be my "gain"! Thanks, jacknife! Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted September 18, 2003 Author Report Posted September 18, 2003 His "loss" will be my "gain"! Thanks, jacknife! You haven't heard it yet. Quote
ghost of miles Posted September 18, 2003 Report Posted September 18, 2003 His "loss" will be my "gain"! Thanks, jacknife! You haven't heard it yet. You're only whetting my appetite! Man, I'm starting to feel like this is the cursed big diamond in an Uncle Scrooge story I read as a kid. Whoever got it was glad at first, till lightning and hail started hitting him and hurricanes broke out over his head... Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted September 18, 2003 Author Report Posted September 18, 2003 Nah, it's more like passing the old maid. Quote
ghost of miles Posted September 18, 2003 Report Posted September 18, 2003 An old maid named Dodo? Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted September 18, 2003 Author Report Posted September 18, 2003 Seriously David: you've probably got more generous ears than Steve and I have. You might find something of value there. I like Ike Quebec and Grant Green, but we don't hear much of either; or at least, neither of them stretch out at all. It's a sad commentary that Steve has to break up his complete Conn collection simply because he cannot stand Dodo. This, by the way, from a guy who bought them in bulk from a local store and palmed one off on me! I know that Mark Sheldon also has a complete Conn collection. Apparently, he was willing to put up with Dodo, which was one of his last acquisitions. Why so hard to find this disc? People must be clinging to them. Quote
vibes Posted September 18, 2003 Report Posted September 18, 2003 I have 54 of these, not including the West Coast Classics or CD's in other formats. I guess I hadn't really thought about how many of these I'd purchased. I had the same reaction when I counted up all the RVG's I have in the other thread and found that I had 70 or so. Blue Note's got me by the left testicle. Quote
DrJ Posted September 18, 2003 Report Posted September 18, 2003 vibes Posted on Sep 18 2003, 06:31 AM Blue Note's got me by the left testicle. So, who's got the right...Verve? Quote
Alec Posted September 18, 2003 Report Posted September 18, 2003 I bought 'em all, due to the raves from you guys (and gals) on that "other" board. I admit there are a few I could do without (I never got into "Some Other Stuff" or Ornette) but I'm reluctant to part with any. The Conn and the Rare Goove series are two that I dearly love and wouldn't hesitate to buy whatever comes out. On the Verve side I have found the LPR series to be very uneven but I loved the "elite" series. (I say loved, but is the series really dead? Will they be coming out with more?) --Claypone Quote
Ed S Posted September 19, 2003 Report Posted September 19, 2003 ...... The Conn and the Rare Goove series are two that I dearly love and wouldn't hesitate to buy whatever comes out. ..... -Claypone Ah - the Rare Groove Series. Another near and dear to my heart. Do I sense another thread starting? Quote
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