Son-of-a-Weizen Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Can't believe that a seller would let this set go for such a paltry sum. http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Paris-Saint-Germain-Pr%C3%A9s-1946-1956/dp/B0006DTZJS/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1263770281&sr=1-19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Just checked out a page that someone put together on MusicBrainz, based on my post. He alerted me to it a while back. He's added quite a bit to it since then. Looking at that, I don't think - right now - it's necessary for me to flesh out my post and redo it. Have a look: http://wiki.musicbra...s/Jazz_in_Paris Cheers! Volkher This looks real good and is a very useful site. The only item I see missing is the very big Jazz In Paris box that gathered all four of the compilations sets. Can't find a reference to it on the usual websites now but it showed up in stores one year ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) This looks real good and is a very useful site. The only item I see missing is the very big Jazz In Paris box that gathered all four of the compilations sets. Can't find a reference to it on the usual websites now but it showed up in stores one year ago! Guy, does that mean they packaged the entire run of the initial boxed sets into one? I've never seen a reference to that one. Did they produce a new (huge) slipcase for that? Questions. Questions. If you ever find one, please let me know and I'll add it to my page. *** @Other readers: My "Jazz in Paris" page has moved to a new location and the old post will be deleted in February. New link: New "Jazz in Paris" page on my website. I have decided to flesh out the page a bit more anyway ... will take a while until I get around to it though. For now, it's only been moved (sans the comments which are stuck with the old post). I will also add the new material which was mentioned in recent posts in this thread. Edited January 25, 2010 by neveronfriday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 No, they packed the four deluxe boxes (St. Germain, Mont... whatever they were called) in one big one... which I'd really love to have, but it was out only for a moment it seems, and probably cost a fortune and a half!On second thought, that's maybe what you were asking? Or were you asking about a box containing the single discs #1-100 (101, or 112 or whatever was the final one... I have'em all so I don't care that much for them numbers ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 No, they packed the four deluxe boxes (St. Germain, Mont... whatever they were called) in one big one... which I'd really love to have, but it was out only for a moment it seems, and probably cost a fortune and a half! I wanted to know about that one. I've never seen a reference to it anywhere until I read Guy's post about it. The other boxes (the 75-CD and the 25-CD one) plus the four single collection ones that were apparently repackaged in that new obscure one I have myself. Plus all the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 @Other readers: My "Jazz in Paris" page has moved to a new location and the old post will be deleted in February. New link: New "Jazz in Paris" page on my website. Same with the ones I have. Have you ever seen any without the glue spots? Probably unique to the copies that wound up w/Caiman, CD Universe, etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) Never seen any without. And yes, Caiman it was. [Edit: BTW: That image above doesn't show up for me. It just says (text): "Posted image".] Edited January 25, 2010 by neveronfriday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) Never seen any without. And yes, Caiman it was. [Edit: BTW: That image above doesn't show up for me. It just says (text): "Posted image".] it was the photo jip 0021 in the 4th row (from the top) of your Jazz in Paris gallery. Edited January 25, 2010 by Son-of-a-Weizen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Never seen any without. And yes, Caiman it was. [Edit: BTW: That image above doesn't show up for me. It just says (text): "Posted image".] it was the photo jip 0021 in the 4th row (from the top) of your Jazz in Paris gallery. Ah, OK. Strange that I, of all people, can't see that. I've added the "From Belgium with Love" boxed set to my page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Volkher, this is the cover of the Jazz in Paris DeLuxe edition (12 CDs): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmonahan Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Volkher, this is the cover of the Jazz in Paris DeLuxe edition (12 CDs): It shows as available from a vendor at amazon.fr. for 170 euros. That's nearly 240 greenbacks plus shipping! gregmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 It looks fabulous, but that's still too much... Lazy bastard that I am, may I ask again: is there a lot of music in there that isn't on the single (and hors série) discs? Is it mostly different, partly different, or mostly selections from the regular CDs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 No doubt! Une fois! Weren't all the tracks recorded in Paris? the django tracks are from brussels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 It looks fabulous, but that's still too much... Lazy bastard that I am, may I ask again: is there a lot of music in there that isn't on the single (and hors série) discs? Is it mostly different, partly different, or mostly selections from the regular CDs? Most of the music appeared on the single CDs. What was not on those is mostly secondary interest. However the books that go with them are priceless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 No doubt! Une fois! Weren't all the tracks recorded in Paris? the django tracks are from brussels... Which ones? Just checked with the Jazz in Paris catalogue that says all Django tracks were recorded in Paris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 No doubt! Une fois! Weren't all the tracks recorded in Paris? the django tracks are from brussels... Which ones? Just checked with the Jazz in Paris catalogue that says all Django tracks were recorded in Paris. can't find a neat discography right now - iirc all of the place de brouckere JiP disc, the sessions with the bands of Fud Candrix and Stan Brenders (plus the duets with pianist Ivan de Bie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 You're right, Niko! The Jazz in Paris catalogue I checked listed all the JinP releases until nr. 101. That Django 'Place de Bouckere' was nr. 102 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 [...] However the books that go with them are priceless! Absolutely! I remember buying these four boxed sets from Caiman at some laughable price that time and the books in those boxes were worth that money and more to me. I usually remove all the CDs from boxed sets and, if removable, keep the books and booklets in a cupboard in the living room. To be quite honest, there they usually .... just sit. And that's it. Those four JiP boxed set books I take out regularly just for fun. They are just nice books with lots of great photos and scans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 (edited) You're right, Niko! The Jazz in Paris catalogue I checked listed all the JinP releases until nr. 101. That's the one I have for download on that JiP page on my site (top of the page), isn't it? The document I have says "Jazzman - Le Journal de tous les jazz" on it (front page). It starts with a timeline reaching from 1923 to 1970 by Alain Tercinet and then briefly lists all of the Cds up to number 101 with cover, track listing, personnel and recording date(s). The last page then shows the large 75-CD box and announces the (then) "last" 19 CDs in the series from #83 to #101. P.S.: I've included the "Belgium" box on my list Volkher, this is the cover of the Jazz in Paris DeLuxe edition (12 CDs): It shows as available from a vendor at amazon.fr. for 170 euros. That's nearly 240 greenbacks plus shipping! gregmo Thanks, Greg. Had never seen that one. [Edit: And after not having read this whole thread in ages, just noticed that it was talked about here when it came out]. Edited January 28, 2010 by neveronfriday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 You're right, Niko! The Jazz in Paris catalogue I checked listed all the JinP releases until nr. 101. That's the one I have for download on that JiP page on my site (top of the page), isn't it? That's the one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 It looks fabulous, but that's still too much... Lazy bastard that I am, may I ask again: is there a lot of music in there that isn't on the single (and hors série) discs? Is it mostly different, partly different, or mostly selections from the regular CDs? Most of the music appeared on the single CDs. What was not on those is mostly secondary interest. However the books that go with them are priceless! Thanks - I guess I can live without them then... though of course having those books would be great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Final track (18) has some problems ...first a couple of glitches and then an abrupt ending. Cd itself is over 74 minutes but I'm assuming that this isn't some widespread manufacturing defect and is unique to my copy that came from the eBay seller in Taiwan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 a small discographical question... who was Mac Kac, why is he called a wild man, why is his real name sometimes given as "Andre Reilles" and sometimes as "Jean Baptiste Reilles" (have also seen Baptiste, Andre Baptiste...) - are these all the same person? the same guy who made rock'n'roll records and appears on these Paris jazz sessions? thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Yes, it's the same person... the various names that are attributed to him stem obviously from his gypsy origins. He was a very present drummer on the Paris scene after WWII. Mac Kak and Pierre Michelot Mac Kak hamming it up with Stéphane Grappelli Photos by Jean-Claude Bernath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 There's a story somewhere about his idea of practical jokes (must be in the liners of a Jazz in Paris CD, I think)... him riding a bike or running around the block where they club they played was located... naked, or course, in the middle of the night... or something. I guess that's why he's called a wild man... He can be heard on the Grappelli album "Improvisations", which is part of the Jazz in Paris series (with three or four bonus tracks), but it also came out on this disc, which omits the bonus tracks but adds a ten inch album by Grappelli on piano (again with Mac Kac on drums): These duplifications between JiP and other Universal France/Gitanes/EmArcy discs that turned up around the same time is a bit weird... for instance, the content of the two Dizzy JiPs (the great small groups plus the second disc with the Operatic Strings) were also combined on a 2CD set that was also part of one of those series (Anniversary, Heritage? Is there any complete listing of those anywhere, btw?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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