dova Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 (edited) No way am I about to jump on the CD-R bandwagon. Stanley's Easywalker as a CD-R for $16.98. I Bought mine last summer, An original rare groove on Amazon for $21.99 3rd party Seller in MINT condition. It's worth it to me to pay $5 more to have the original rare groove series. By the way this is one of Turrentine's best sessions with nearly 70min of music it has 5 bonus tracks. I don't blame anyone for getting the CD-R, I'm just a collector and is against my methodology. Edited December 19, 2008 by dova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 How can you legally sell a CDR of a major label release? Sounds fishy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 How can you legally sell a CDR of a major label release? Sounds fishy to me. You be way behind the curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Chuck is alluding to a discussion on a thread regarding Gil Melle CDRs that were available on Amazon. Did we ever establish that this was sanctioned by Blue Note? Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I checked an found out they licensed a bunch of titles as a trial. Don't know all the titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjarrell Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 The Swingtets and Port of Harlem discs are available as CDRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I have the greatest copy of Easy Walker of all time. It came with a special bonus in the lp sleeve: Eight Hundred and Ninety Dollars in old 1960's issued bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I have the greatest copy of Easy Walker of all time. It came with a special bonus in the lp sleeve: Eight Hundred and Ninety Dollars in old 1960's issued bills Nice score Chewy! You win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Concerning the music, overall, its a swell disc where there are a couple of real standout tracks starting with the first and another track with Billy Cobham that I can't recall (don't have it in front of me). I don't know if I would pay full retail price for it, especially a CDR, but if you see it in a second-hand bin (which is where I got my copy) then its definitely worth picking up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 It's been widely debated as to how long a CDR will last compared to a manufactured CD. It's one thing to dub broadcasts using decent quality discs, but paying money for a CDR of a commercial issue is a poor investment in my view. Shame on labels for taking the cheap way out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 The bonus tracks are actually superior to the original album, especially Stan's take on "Wave" which is gorgeous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 The bonus tracks are actually superior to the original album, especially Stan's take on "Wave" which is gorgeous. Oh, I didn't know there were bonus tracks. Are they the ones that were issued on the "Rainbow" BN called "Ain't no way" (LT1095)? Stan's shuffle Watch what happens Intermission walk Wave Ain't no way (with Shirley) MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 The bonus tracks are actually superior to the original album, especially Stan's take on "Wave" which is gorgeous. Oh, I didn't know there were bonus tracks. Are they the ones that were issued on the "Rainbow" BN called "Ain't no way" (LT1095)? Stan's shuffle Watch what happens Intermission walk Wave Ain't no way (with Shirley) MG Almost. "Ain't no way" is not on Easy Walker, but "A Foggy Day" is an additional bonus track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 The bonus tracks are actually superior to the original album, especially Stan's take on "Wave" which is gorgeous. Oh, I didn't know there were bonus tracks. Are they the ones that were issued on the "Rainbow" BN called "Ain't no way" (LT1095)? Stan's shuffle Watch what happens Intermission walk Wave Ain't no way (with Shirley) MG Almost. "Ain't no way" is not on Easy Walker, but "A Foggy Day" is an additional bonus track. Ah, I had the feeling that the correct place to reissue "Ain't no way" would have been on the "Common touch" CD, since it's from that session. So, was the "Easy walker" CD the first issue for "A foggy day"? I don't think I've got that. (So I can't make my own CD-R ) MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Almost. "Ain't no way" is not on Easy Walker, but "A Foggy Day" is an additional bonus track. Ah, I had the feeling that the correct place to reissue "Ain't no way" would have been on the "Common touch" CD, since it's from that session. So, was the "Easy walker" CD the first issue for "A foggy day"? I don't think I've got that. (So I can't make my own CD-R ) MG Ain't no way is indeed on Common Touch; it appears to be from a separate session, though with almost the same personnel as the session that led to Common Touch (the drummer is different). Don't know if Foggy Day landed elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Almost. "Ain't no way" is not on Easy Walker, but "A Foggy Day" is an additional bonus track. Ah, I had the feeling that the correct place to reissue "Ain't no way" would have been on the "Common touch" CD, since it's from that session. So, was the "Easy walker" CD the first issue for "A foggy day"? I don't think I've got that. (So I can't make my own CD-R ) MG Ain't no way is indeed on Common Touch; it appears to be from a separate session, though with almost the same personnel as the session that led to Common Touch (the drummer is different). So it is - hadn't noticed that before. Don't know if Foggy Day landed elsewhere. A bit of digging in the jazz discog site and "Foggy day" was from the same session that produced four of the tracks that were included in the "Return of the prodigal son" CD. I suppose that it was added to the "Easy walker" CD because of the similarity of material, rather than any other connection. These later Stanleys would make a pretty nice Mosaic. Though one would hope they'd do a better job with them than the eariler Mosaic, which isn't complete because it missed out "ZT's blues", one of his best early sixties jobs. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Almost. "Ain't no way" is not on Easy Walker, but "A Foggy Day" is an additional bonus track. Ah, I had the feeling that the correct place to reissue "Ain't no way" would have been on the "Common touch" CD, since it's from that session. So, was the "Easy walker" CD the first issue for "A foggy day"? I don't think I've got that. (So I can't make my own CD-R ) MG Ain't no way is indeed on Common Touch; it appears to be from a separate session, though with almost the same personnel as the session that led to Common Touch (the drummer is different). Don't know if Foggy Day landed elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 how are cds and cdrs different? how are commercial cds pressed to the the music on them anyways, if they aren't like "burned" like u do when "burning" a cd-r as they say....now are these commercial ones printed like a real cd, or is it just totally, totally sketch, like my Korean pressing of "Inna-Gadda-Da-Vida" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 (edited) From Wikipedia: CD mastering differs from burning, as the pits and lands of a mastered CD are moulded into a CD blank, rather than being 'burn marks' in a dye layer (in CD-Rs) or areas with changed physical characteristics (in CD-RWs). In addition, CD burners write data sequentially, while a CD pressing plant 'writes' the entire disk in one physical stamping operation. I'm steering clear of CDRs. I got one print-on-demand title which was leased from Universal (A Clarke-Boland Big Band album); it does not play on older CD players. In that particular case, liner notes were also missing. Edited December 23, 2008 by Daniel A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I bought Patton's "Accent on the Blues" as such a manufactured CDR. Wrote them an angry mail as I wasn't aware if was a CDR when I ordered... of course they just sent a pre-fab mail in response suckers. "Blue John" is also available as CDR from Amazon. I'll watch closer next time... 13 or 14 $ for a CDR is way over the top, and the prize for "Accent" went up to 16 or 17 later on. That's crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 if you pooped on a rock and named it Big John Patton, I'd buy it for $27.99 and let it twist around on my turntable bi-weekly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbored Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 if you pooped on a rock and named it Big John Patton, I'd buy it for $27.99 and let it twist around on my turntable bi-weekly excellent. i've got a prize for you. bring your wallet and turntable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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