king ubu Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 It's a bit strange what the mommy posts about me, of late... I can't remember ever bad-mouthing Few as a flowery ornament... a search didn't yield anything, either. Anyway, I have his "Continental Jazz Express" and it's pretty intense. Of course I'm a big fan of Lacy and there's plenty of Few there, about which I don't think I ever complained or made any outspoken negative comments. *********************** Chuck, that's good news about your reissue projects! Looking forward a lot! Quote
Niko Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 It's a bit strange what the mommy posts about me, of late... I can't remember ever bad-mouthing Few as a flowery ornament... a search didn't yield anything, either. Anyway, I have his "Continental Jazz Express" and it's pretty intense. Of course I'm a big fan of Lacy and there's plenty of Few there, about which I don't think I ever complained or made any outspoken negative comments. using my superior searching abilities i came up with this bit which i would not consider particularly offensive: I know I still owe you a short review of that Few solo disc I have, "Continental Jazz Express". However, after two listens, I cannot really say much about it - it failed to instantly grab me, but somehow I don't want to say anything bad about it, either... Quote
king ubu Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 It's a bit strange what the mommy posts about me, of late... I can't remember ever bad-mouthing Few as a flowery ornament... a search didn't yield anything, either. Anyway, I have his "Continental Jazz Express" and it's pretty intense. Of course I'm a big fan of Lacy and there's plenty of Few there, about which I don't think I ever complained or made any outspoken negative comments. using my superior searching abilities i came up with this bit which i would not consider particularly offensive: I know I still owe you a short review of that Few solo disc I have, "Continental Jazz Express". However, after two listens, I cannot really say much about it - it failed to instantly grab me, but somehow I don't want to say anything bad about it, either... Well yes, but my own search for "Continental" (since "Few" is unsearchable) and "Bobby" in recoomendations and for any date did not bring that up... I dimly remembered it, though, and it seems my memory was about right. Anyway, on to more interesting topics again now! Quote
paul secor Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 BTW, answering Mommy's question, I will probably reissue "Saga of the Outlaws" this year. I also hope to reissue Roscoe's "Nonaah" and Wadada's "Spirit Catcher". If you care, keep your fingers crossed for extra material on each. I care, and I'm sure others here do also. Looking forward to the extra material - hope it surfaces. Quote
Guest the mommy Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 ubu, i said you or DD, i thought. i guess it was not you. not a big deal. i don't even remember the context. just one of you guys, i thought, saying that few played too much. Quote
king ubu Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 Sorry, I was a bit touchy - because of your a-bit-too-youngt-to-be-such-a-purist-comment in the Herbie Mann thread... Quote
Guest the mommy Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 that comment wasn't meant towards you in the mann thread, ubu! Quote
king ubu Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 that comment wasn't meant towards you in the mann thread, ubu! yup, I realized and posted over there, sorry again! Quote
clifford_thornton Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 why complain about that burrell? it isn't like it will ever in a million years be on an actual legit CD, will it? One never knows. I'm on the fence about the whole DMG thing. I mean, Mommy sent me a copy of Le Temps Fou that is a rip. I would never in a million years be able to afford that LP. However, ethically what DMG (and some others) are doing is weak. Nevertheless, few labels really "paid out" in the first place - BYG, Alan Bates or whomever. So whether they would have got royalties from these sessions to begin with seems fairly moot. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 Tooting my own horn on Bobby Few here; please excuse, or peruse: Bobby Few at AAJ Quote
ep1str0phy Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 Toot away, C. Toot away. Again, though, I like Bobby Few. I was just listening to the Ervin date the other day and he's way, way in the pocket--really could play anywhere. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted January 19, 2007 Report Posted January 19, 2007 Mommy, How's the sound on the Boheme rip? Did they clean it up? The BYG doesn't sound all that hot - or at least my copy. Contradiction duly noted. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted January 19, 2007 Report Posted January 19, 2007 Hip shit... Klaus Kugel - drums, percussions Hilliard Greene - double bass Bruce Eisenbeil - acoustic and electric guitars Peter Evans - trumpet, piccolo trumpet, slide trumpet Perry Robinson - clarinets CD "CARNIVAL SKIN" (nemu 003) released 2006 on Nemu Records Quote
ep1str0phy Posted January 19, 2007 Report Posted January 19, 2007 Yeah, that one's been getting some good buzz. I'm looking into picking this one up, although (Robinson and, to a lesser extent, Greene notwithstanding) I haven't heard to much from the members of this group. I've heard some folks praise Eisenbeil's CIMP work, tho... Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted January 19, 2007 Report Posted January 19, 2007 Peter Evans is awesome, from what I've heard! Has a solo one out on Evan's label, Psi. Quote
ep1str0phy Posted January 20, 2007 Report Posted January 20, 2007 Heads up, folks: all of Afrodisiaca is available online "somewhere". You know where to look. -On first spin, it's a mighty listen. Perhaps I'm just listening a little to light, but there's a strong sense of the "Dutch sound" here (Breuker is on the record), and there are moments where I might mistake this for a Kollektief record. I might chalk it up to a shared sense of wild eclecticism, though; I always knew that Tchicai had a sense for stylistic diversity, but the sheer variety of styles on display here is dizzying. This one is epic, no doubt. Quote
Д.Д. Posted January 20, 2007 Report Posted January 20, 2007 i see that the review for aaj ripped the dipp regarding frank wright's newish "unity" release. i really like it. for some reason the method by which the group is improvising really makes sense to me. some of it is a bit much, but it all seems to be in good spirits. someone on this board, probably ubu or DD, was saying a long time ago how they do not like bobby few. i agree he spews out too many notes per minute. it seems like his way of attacking the free thing was/is? to play very busy. sometimes it does work and he sounds good on this one, i think. do others agree with the aaj guy? the allmusic guide guy seems to like it better. is chuck really going to reissue "saga of the outlaws"? i hope you will, chuck. it is great. a mention should be made for the boykins/reid rhythm section. not heard enough-but one of my favorites! i just got a sketchy downtownmusicgallery CD of "the black arc" (ark?) and i think it is great. arthur doyle works in this context for me. downtownmusicgallery also had another noah howard/frank wright america album-space dimension, maybe? how is that one? they also did up scorpio, which i have to pick up. that's a good one. Yeah, that was me commenting on Bobby Few overplaying. I am listening to his solo "Continental Jazz Express" (on Boxholder) to refresh my memory, and, well, my impression has not changed much - there is a lot of rather cheesy impressionistic 100-notes-per second up-and-down noodling runs. Pretty unfocused. Gotta relisten to those Center of the World (Wright, Few, Silva, Ali) recordings on Fractal - haven't listened to them for a few years now. I remember when I was living an Italy I once listened to Center in World disc late at night (2 or 3 AM) with windows open and the music blasting out. I then heard some noice outside, and when I look outside I see a young Italian drogato standing on the street right under my window, looking at the sky with a expression of horror on his face. I don't know how long the guy had been there. I turned the music off - didn't want him to have a cardiac arrest right there. As for the "unofficial" releases of OOP stuff: I will be most happy to buy them as legit releases. As long as they are not available as such, I will be buying these unothorized copies. Quote
ep1str0phy Posted January 20, 2007 Report Posted January 20, 2007 You've heard him with Lacy, tho, right? It's a pretty strong 180 from a lot of Few's earlier work (due in part, perhaps, to the complexity of Lacy's arrangements), but I would under no conditions call that "overplaying". At the same time, I think the Wright material might demand the florid, "impressionistic" approach, but then I'd have to hear the Wright quartet with a different pianist (which I have not). ...(and on the other thing) I said it before and I'll say it again: boycott. Quote
Д.Д. Posted January 20, 2007 Report Posted January 20, 2007 You've heard him with Lacy, tho, right? No. But my Lacy collection is steadily growing, so I will get there. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted January 20, 2007 Report Posted January 20, 2007 Peter Evans is awesome, from what I've heard! Has a solo one out on Evan's label, Psi. Yeah, that is a great disc. Pretty fucked, though of course Dixon's Odyssey started it all. (or the Collection did, whatever...) Quote
clifford_thornton Posted January 20, 2007 Report Posted January 20, 2007 Heads up, folks: all of Afrodisiaca is available online "somewhere". You know where to look. -On first spin, it's a mighty listen. Perhaps I'm just listening a little to light, but there's a strong sense of the "Dutch sound" here (Breuker is on the record), and there are moments where I might mistake this for a Kollektief record. I might chalk it up to a shared sense of wild eclecticism, though; I always knew that Tchicai had a sense for stylistic diversity, but the sheer variety of styles on display here is dizzying. This one is epic, no doubt. I thought that at one point there was a Japanese CD of this. I generally have got the most mileage out of the title track, by Hugh Steinmetz, but side two is also pretty great. "Afrodisiaca" in itself is a mind-fuck. Hopefully Tchicai is able to salvage the tapes of CND jamming with MEV in the late '60s... now THAT has got to be insane! Quote
ep1str0phy Posted January 20, 2007 Report Posted January 20, 2007 Gotta give credit to MEV--one of the most open-minded, stylistically diplomatic of the early EA ensembles. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted January 20, 2007 Report Posted January 20, 2007 I threw on a bit of the Sound Pool in the break room at work. A co-worker said "I feel like I'm being beckoned by the light." In context, it was pretty fucking funny. I like MEV but have yet to hear a recording that "works" for me. "Spacecraft," from the split w/ AMM, is the closest I've come. Quote
king ubu Posted January 25, 2007 Report Posted January 25, 2007 I heard a needle drop "review copy" of "Other Afternoons" on the way to work - first time I heard this album, and WOW it rocks! Lyons is one of the true masters, his command of the alto is totally stunning, I'm more and more impressed by his playing! Will have to look for his albums eventually (I have "Jump Up" and the box so far, plus lots of stuff with Cecil, of course). Quote
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