ep1str0phy Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 The Improvisation book is, indeed, a thoughtful philosophical/historical primer on improvisational approaches. Certain folks have criticized it for being a little facile--and there's very minimal theoretical underpinning contained therein--and it is, to be fair, somewhat generalized in its approach to certain topics. What's remarkable to me, though, is that Bailey--as a sort of doyen of non-idiomatic improvisation (and a progenitor, although hardly the most strident practitioner, of the sort of anti-culturalist approach that cats like Lewis criticize)--remains generally nonbiased and apolitical throughout the main text. Bailey's (conspicuously) dispassionate documentary/heuristic approach is probably the book's biggest draw for me (as both a primary source and as an instructive text), but that same attribute is also why it's difficult to shoehorn the tome into the sort of divisive identity debate that crops up in modern improv talk... On Bailey--now and always among the illest of the illest of the old school free improvisers, and (agreed) a fascinating mind. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 Looks like Funny Rat is in danger of degenerating into a clothing thread. Quote
7/4 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 Looks like Funny Rat is in danger of degenerating into a clothing thread. Fabulous! Quote
ep1str0phy Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 It's been virtually everything else... (btw, Chuck--if you were to market Nessa T-shirts...) Quote
clifford_thornton Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 I would rather talk about t-shirts, honestly. Quote
king ubu Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 found these in sales here: Haven't played any of them yet, but maybe I'll feel like playing some more ratty music than I did of late (thus I mostly disappeared from the thread, recently). Quote
ep1str0phy Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 FR is like a bar, and, well, only a few of us are willing to get drunk right now (tho clifford's proclivities are well documented on other parts of this board...). Then again, we are talking about fashion. That Wadada larger group disc is fine, although I haven't had time to dig into it yet. I've had both of the others in mind--I'd like to hear your thoughts. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 FR is like a bar, and, well, only a few of us are willing to get drunk right now (tho clifford's proclivities are well documented on other parts of this board...). Quote
king ubu Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 FR is like a bar, and, well, only a few of us are willing to get drunk right now (tho clifford's proclivities are well documented on other parts of this board...). well, you have my sympathy there, of course... although usually I don't drink while posting or vice versa (or I stop posting after a # of beers...) Quote
Bright Moments Posted February 2, 2007 Report Posted February 2, 2007 I'm also not quite in the mood to listen to "One Too Many..." or similar sort of stuff at the moment. What I did listen to with pleasure recently was: I get more excited about new Rune Grammofon (a label co-owned/sponsored by ECM) than new ECM recordings. Have any of you heard Maja Ratkje's debut album 'Voice' on the Rune Grammofon label? The most amazing vocal album ever. Yes, if you are into extreme vocal techniques. I am. Recorded in various inappropriate places (elevators, roofs, basements, etc.). You want a cover? Here is the cover: just spun this one - IMHO one of the most bizarre things i have ever heard. Quote
John B Posted February 2, 2007 Report Posted February 2, 2007 I've never heard her solo album but I have really enjoyed Ratkje's work in the duo Fe-mail. Their album with Lasse Marhaug is excellent, if not for the faint of heart. Quote
king ubu Posted February 2, 2007 Report Posted February 2, 2007 I've never heard her solo album but I have really enjoyed Ratkje's work in the duo Fe-mail. Their album with Lasse Marhaug is excellent, if not for the faint of heart. Quote
B. Clugston Posted February 2, 2007 Report Posted February 2, 2007 I've never heard her solo album but I have really enjoyed Ratkje's work in the duo Fe-mail. Their album with Lasse Marhaug is excellent, if not for the faint of heart. I saw Fe-Mail in concert twice last year. Fantastic stuff in a live setting, even better than their recordings. Ratkje has great musical instincts. Quote
John B Posted February 6, 2007 Report Posted February 6, 2007 (edited) For those of you interested in eai erstwhile is having a fairly nice sale: "I'd like to announce a sale on all Erstwhile titles through the end of February, details as follows. please note: this does not apply to other items I distribute, just the Erstwhile catalog, although I'm happy to pack ErstDist purchases together to save shipping charges. all single CDs are $10, doubles $17, the AVVA DVD $16, plus my shipping estimate. buy any 5 releases, get an additional single CD free. the AMPLIFY 2002: balance box set (which is starting to run low) is still $100 plus shipping, but you also get two single discs of your choice included for free. the EL005 box is $28 plus shipping, and if you buy EL005 plus two other discs, you get one more free. double CDs count as one item for the purposes of getting free additional discs. sale ends last day of February and is only good for all-Erstwhile orders. no preorders will be accepted; this only applies to releases out now. please e-mail me your orders (erstrecs@aol.com) before sending money so I can tell you the correct shipping charges to include. the full catalog is listed at the link below, 004, 010, 012 and 015 are OOP and EL004 is down to the last dozen or so. 007, 014, 016, 024, 033-040, and 042 are all into their last 100 copies, some of those will be reprinted eventually, others will not (the box set will not). everything else I've got in ample quantities for now... http://www.erstwhilerecords.com/catalog.html Edited February 6, 2007 by John B Quote
ep1str0phy Posted February 6, 2007 Report Posted February 6, 2007 Thanks for the heads up. Cheap prices for these (they run steep in the brick-and-mortars). Quote
jon abbey Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 thanks for that, John. FWIW, most of the "brick-and-mortars" these are in, chances are I never got paid and will never get paid for those copies, direct ordering is always the best (this doesn't apply to a place like DMG, of course, I mostly mean chain stores). Quote
ep1str0phy Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 What's the deal with not getting paid, if you don't mind me asking? (I'm not the most astute person when it comes to business machinations). Quote
king ubu Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 found these in sales here: Quite nice, I think! Haven't played it often enough to really say, but upon first listen, it's a good one! Quote
B. Clugston Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 found these in sales here: Quite nice, I think! Haven't played it often enough to really say, but upon first listen, it's a good one! This one really grew on me. The sequel is great as well. Quote
jon abbey Posted February 8, 2007 Report Posted February 8, 2007 What's the deal with not getting paid, if you don't mind me asking? (I'm not the most astute person when it comes to business machinations). distributors take copies and then go out of business, leaving the labels screwed. Quote
king ubu Posted February 13, 2007 Report Posted February 13, 2007 someone sent me this link yesterday, I hope it's new to some of you, too: http://www.reubenradding.com/12.html Both instalments so far feature Jack Wright! Of Radding himself, I haven't heard before... Quote
John B Posted February 13, 2007 Report Posted February 13, 2007 He has a nice disc with Daniel Carter called Luminescence, on Aum Fidelity. I believe that is the only disc I have heard him on. Quote
Nate Dorward Posted February 13, 2007 Report Posted February 13, 2007 He's got two discs on his own Pine Ear label which are both worth getting. Plus the new Billy Stein disc is great with Radding & Rashid Bakr. (Reuben tells me he was incredibly sick during that session & feared he'd wrecked it; when he received the CD he didn't listen to it for ages, then got up the nerve & was pleasantly surprised how well it worked out. It's actually a terrific date, one of the best & most overlooked releases of 2006.) Quote
Chalupa Posted February 15, 2007 Report Posted February 15, 2007 Hell, I can't even find a Lungfish shirt... I just got back from seeing a show that Daniel Higgs opened. Freaky. Quote
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