7/4 Posted March 28, 2008 Report Posted March 28, 2008 Well, on Bagatellen and I Hate Music, the erstwhile label and other Rat-esque musics seem to be discussed regularly. I mean, a lot of lowercase improv and things like that really fall well outside the interests of most people on this board. IHM doesn't seem to be a very busy place. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted March 28, 2008 Report Posted March 28, 2008 Not compared to here, nope! Quote
AndrewHill Posted March 29, 2008 Report Posted March 29, 2008 Caught that trio (Tshar/Parker/Ibarra) live about the time of the CD's release. Uh, it stunk. Can I ask whether you thought it was an 'off' night for the group or were you just generally unimpressed with them overall? I thought they sounded good on the cd, so that's why I'm curious. HG Quote
clifford_thornton Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 I think I liked him best either in duo with Cooper-Moore or sitting in with In Order To Survive. Quote
Guest Bill Barton Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 I just discovered this thread... Assif Tsahar: I heard him doing a live solo gig a couple of years back. His tenor playing didn't really do much for me. His bass clarinet was a different story. Quote
papsrus Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 I enjoyed Assif Tsahar's solo release Ayn Le-Any. Downloaded it from eMusic, so I didn't get the audacious Nirvana Nevermind thirty years later cover art. It's on Hopscotch. Other recent ratty pleasures: Dennis Gonzalez Live at Tonic: Dance of the Soothsayer's Tongue, Noah Howard - Black Ark, Cecil Taylor - Algonquin, Trio M - Big Picture, and the Braxton Iridium set. Also been getting into Lester Bowie's Brass Fantasy's pop interpretations. I strongly tend toward American free jazz artists who emerged in the 60's and 70's (I started listening to them about 1975), although Evan Parker may be my favorite musician right now. This thread's a gold mine! That Gonzalez Soothsayer's Tongue is an excellent disc. His Idle Wild is also super nice. And the Braxton Iridium instantly grabbed me. Brilliant. I haven't had time to read through this thread completely, but I'll probably skim through as much of it as I can as time premits. My tastes have generally tilted toward this sort of free-ish yet structured music for some time. There's something very "essential" about a lot of it. It taps some very inner places, I think. Lately, I tend to bounce back and forth between early swing and bebop to this sort of stuff. The contrast is interesting, but there is something in common there as well. Can't quite put my finger on it, but it's there. Anyways, glad to have stumbled upon this thread. Quote
Nate Dorward Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 I have no idea if the CD's any good, but the concert was enough to suggest that I should give it a wide berth. He's one of those players who always seems "OK" to me--not terrible, but why would you go out of your way to hear him? The duo with Drake on Ayler Records is OK, I recall (though it went into the to-trade pile the moment I finished the review); I think the only other place I've really heard him was Hugh Ragin's Feel the Sunshine, where he sounds like a poor man's David Murray or James Carter. Quote
AndrewHill Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 I have no idea if the CD's any good, but the concert was enough to suggest that I should give it a wide berth. He's one of those players who always seems "OK" to me--not terrible, but why would you go out of your way to hear him? The duo with Drake on Ayler Records is OK, I recall (though it went into the to-trade pile the moment I finished the review); I think the only other place I've really heard him was Hugh Ragin's Feel the Sunshine, where he sounds like a poor man's David Murray or James Carter. Fair enough, thanks for responding. He is someone I just discovered by hapistance throough Cooper-Moore and he seemed like an interesting enough of a cat to pursue further, now albiet for $5, I'm willing to check almost anoyone out. Thanks for your response Quote
clifford_thornton Posted March 30, 2008 Report Posted March 30, 2008 Actually, there are some things I would avoid for $5. That $5 is a sandwich or a beer and a half to some of us! That Gonzalez is pretty hot - Eskelin is in fine form. Quote
AndrewHill Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 Actually, there are some things I would avoid for $5. That $5 is a sandwich or a beer and a half to some of us! Fair enough to you too Cifford Quote
Nate Dorward Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 Actually, aside from the duo with Drake, the other worthwhile Tsahar recordings I've heard are the two trios with Cooper Moore on Hopscotch--Digital Primitives & Lost Brother. Those ones are definitely worth more than $5! Quote
king ubu Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 Actually, there are some things I would avoid for $5. That $5 is a sandwich or a beer and a half to some of us! Fair enough to you too Cifford well, to others it's half a sandwich or just about one beer... Quote
AndrewHill Posted April 1, 2008 Report Posted April 1, 2008 Actually, there are some things I would avoid for $5. That $5 is a sandwich or a beer and a half to some of us! Fair enough to you too Cifford well, to others it's half a sandwich or just about one beer... Quote
clifford_thornton Posted April 1, 2008 Report Posted April 1, 2008 And to chewy it's a sammich. Quote
king ubu Posted April 1, 2008 Report Posted April 1, 2008 you see, that's why this thread is *really* called the "funny rat" - this is about dried rat dogs and peruvian guinea pigs... and some such... Quote
7/4 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Posted April 23, 2008 you see, that's why this thread is *really* called the "funny rat" - this is about dried rat dogs and peruvian guinea pigs... and some such... Yummy. Anyways...IHM is getting a bit more interesting lately. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted April 28, 2008 Report Posted April 28, 2008 A guinea pig with really big cajones! Quote
king ubu Posted April 28, 2008 Report Posted April 28, 2008 Yeah well, I ate balls for lunch today, too... though only meat balls, alas... Quote
riverrat Posted May 5, 2008 Report Posted May 5, 2008 (edited) you see, that's why this thread is *really* called the "funny rat" - this is about dried rat dogs and peruvian guinea pigs... and some such... For literally years now I've seen this curiously titled thread, "Funny Rat". This evening, I decided to finally have a look. Hmmmm... Edited May 5, 2008 by riverrat Quote
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