Д.Д. Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 John B, I think you will really enjoy the Harriet Tubman disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 John B, I think you will really enjoy the Harriet Tubman disc. I found a copy on half.com for $3 and ordered it. I'll let you know what I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Another extremely high recommendation for all of my friends at Funny Rat: The Ganelin Trio - Catalogue: Live in East Germany I believe this is the recording that started Leo Records. Smuggled out of the USSR, released in 1980 with the disclaimer, "musicians do not bear any responsibility for publishing this tape." If he had never done another jazz release we should still be thanking Leo Fagin for making this music available. This just might be the best Ganelin / Ganelin-related album I have heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Another extremely high recommendation for all of my friends at Funny Rat: The Ganelin Trio - Catalogue: Live in East Germany I believe this is the recording that started Leo Records. Smuggled out of the USSR, released in 1980 with the disclaimer, "musicians do not bear any responsibility for publishing this tape." If he had never done another jazz release we should still be thanking Leo Fagin for making this music available. This just might be the best Ganelin / Ganelin-related album I have heard. This is one of the few Leo Ganelin's I don't owe, so I can't comment on it. I am on and off with Ganelin Trio. I still feel that the music more often than not fails to grab me. There is often a lot of self-indulgent unfocused noodling (particularly in later works) - at the same time their best works (like Poco A Poco and Con Anima (the most "jazzy" Genelin I've heard) are among the most exciting music I've experienced. All members are excellent (I would even say, unique) musicians, and Tarasov is one of my favorite drummers (I saw him doing a solo concert.. phew), with limitless fantasy and natural groove. Analogy with AEoC is very appropriate... save for the fact that Ganelin Trio sounds absolutely different . Just something about the approach of total immersion into the music is similar. Also, the same penchant for percussion... I am still not done working through the Ganelin Trio catalog. So far my recommendation would be to go for Poco A Poco. It is uncharacteristic for the trio in that it consists of many short pieces (mostly composed), making the music more focused and diverse that usual hour-long "music events". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Reynolds Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 first off, the Ganelin Trio desreves it's own thread love Con Affetto - my detailed comments are elsewhere on the net - anyone interested can PM me or go where they are just rec'd the double disc on Leo documenting a 1985 concert when my electricity is back tommorow, I'll give it a spin I also love Poco-a-Poco and like Ancora Da Capo (prefering the second version on the CD) would love to hear Catalogue some day but I'm so glad to have received Ttaango...In Nickelsdorf that I can hardly spit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Sam Rivers now on Jazz on BBC3: Playlist Sam Rivers recorded at Queen Elizabeth Hall during the London Jazz Festival on the 13th November Sam Rivers Trio: Sam Rivers: Saxophone, flute, piano Douglas Mathews: bass and bass clarinet Anthony Cole: drums, tenor sax Artist Sam Rivers Title Impromptu for you Composer Sam Rivers Duration 6'48" Artist Sam Rivers Title Ripples Composer Sam Rivers Duration 4'36" Artist Sam Rivers Title Impromptu Composer Sam Rivers Duration 14'59" Artist Sam Rivers Title Beatrice Composer Sam Rivers Duration 5'54" Interval: Kevin Le Gendre talks to Sam Rivers Sam Rivers Rivbea Orchestra UK: Sam Rivers: Saxophone, flute Douglas Mathews: bass Anthony Cole: drums Saxophones: Tony Kofi Jason Yarde Martin Speake Iain Ballamy Pete Wareham Trombones Trevor Mires Roland Bates Ashley Slater Tuba: Andy Grappy Trumpets: Byron Wallen Chris Batchelor Tom Rees-Roberts Danny Marsden Artist Sam Rivers Rivbea Orchestra UK Title Pulsar Suite Composer Sam Rivers Duration 5'36" Artist Sam Rivers Rivbea Orchestra UK Title Revival Composer Sam Rivers Duration 11'35" Artist Sam Rivers Rivbea Orchestra UK Title Jubilee Composer Sam Rivers Duration 7'18" Artist Sam Rivers Rivbea Orchestra UK Title Willow Composer Sam Rivers Duration 12'20" Listen here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio3_aod.shtml?jon3 There's some problem with sound, though. What a pity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Sachimay Records. I have only two of their releases - Bhob Rainey's "Ink" and DeChellis/Arnal "The Dirigibles Between Similarities " (just obtrained at Drimala sale) - both are outstanding! I'll be buying more. Sachimay just intiated a new imprint - Intervention Series - CD-Rs for $3 (!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Have any of you heard the Territory Band 2 album Atlas? The band on this album is: Jim Baker - piano Jeb Bishop - trombone Axel Doerner - trumpet Kevin Drumm - electronics Per-Ake Holmlander - tuba Fredrik Ljungkvist - reeds Fred Londberg-Holm - cello Paul Lytton - drums Tim Mulvenna - percussion Dave Rempis - saxophones Ken Vandermark - reeds Ken wrote all of the tunes. I think there are many similarities between this disc and the excellent Atomic / School days double album, although this one is a lot more abstract and less "in the pocket." Kevin Drumm, in particular, stands out from the ensemble. Every time I thought the music was moving along comfortably I'd do a double-take when Drumm's electronics jolted my brain out of its groove. The music on this disc is nowhere near the electro-acoustic improvisations one would find on an Erstwhile disc. It is, however, a very interesting experiment using a limited palette of some of the same concepts and musicians (Drumm, Doerner) that inhabit that other sound world. This one is going to take a little bit longer for me to get my head around than Nuclear Assembly Hall, but I think it will most definitely be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Reynolds Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 better than Nuclear Assembly Hall by quite a bit to my ears Drumm is part of the reason still need to spin the Schooldays discs a few more times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 still need to spin the Schooldays discs a few more times I've got their album In Our Times up on deck to listen to tomorrow for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 FWIW there's a new Territory Band disc out, too--leftovers from the same session, I believe. It's a double CD but it's only just over 80 minutes of music between the two (including one alt-take). I've only listened to the 1st disc, it's OK without really doing a lot for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnhrtg Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 (edited) "In Our Times" is a good one too (Nilssen-Love and Bishop stand out, in particular), I like it better than "Crossing Division," but I think "Nuclear Assembly Hall" is the best release by either band. I actually enjoy the first Territory Band album more than the second (haven't heard the third yet but not in any rush to do so). What usually gets on my nerves is the arranged parts, I'm happy with the transitions and most of the blowing but as for the relatively lengthier arrangements, I could have done with fewer and shorter. Just a thing, Axel Doerner plays a very nice, laid-back, and short break in the first track of either 1 or 2. I also agree re-the enthusiastic recommendations for Catalogue. edit: John B, you did get my PM, yes? Edited December 12, 2004 by gnhrtg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 (edited) Will get a Territory Band from Chuck Nessa. Now how about Public Eyesore label - and this particular release? Looks interesting... Edited December 12, 2004 by Д.Д. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Received a present from INTAKT records: Han Bannink compilation CD from Italian Musica Jazz magazine. Three never-before-released tracks (two of them from a '79 concert with Brötzmann and Mengelberg). There is also a press-release mentoning two new INTAKT releases in January-February: Schlippenbach 5-tet's 3-CD "Monk's Casino" and Irene Schweizer-Omri Ziegele duo. Good news. I guess I just need to cancel my INTAKT subscription beforee they send me the 3-CD thing - I can only imagine how much they will charge for it (they charge Sfr. 25 for single CD = $21... not a big surprise they afford some presents to subscribers once a year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Listened to Bennink comilation disc. Good stuff! Was particulalry impressed by Bennink-Evan Parker duo fromthe psi CD "The Grass is Greener". Will get it for sure. There is also one track from CD called "October Meeting 1991 - 3 Quartets" (BIM) - Braxton, Mengelberg, Dresser and bennink playing some standard - now this is some good standard playing from Braxton (and an exciting rhythm section). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnhrtg Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 There is also one track from CD called "October Meeting 1991 - 3 Quartets" (BIM) - Braxton, Mengelberg, Dresser and bennink playing some standard - now this is some good standard playing from Braxton (and an exciting rhythm section). Indeed, and the disc from which that track comes is recommended, more later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 You really like The Grass Is Greener? I'd thought it a real dud, actually--an old review of it-- http://www.ndorward.com/music/parker_grass.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Peter Brötzmann Chicago Tentet, "Be Music Night" featuring 10 poems by Kenneth Patchen, read by Mike Person. Recorded in Chicago, November 2004, to be releases on Okkkadisk in May 2005 Hey, I almost went to this show but wasn't feeling that well that night. I might pick this up, depending on the reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 You really like The Grass Is Greener? I'd thought it a real dud, actually--an old review of it-- http://www.ndorward.com/music/parker_grass.htm I liked one 2-minute track that was included on Bennink compilation CD - that's all I've heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Michael Ehlers was in attendance at the fantastic Fred Anderson, William Parker, Hamid Drake show last night, so, hopefully, some of this music will end up being released. He mentioned a previous show in Montreal, so this seems to be an Eremite tour, which I hadn't realized. If you have a chance to see these guys I highly recommend doing so. Fred has more stamina than most people half his age and it is a joy to listen to Hamid and William listen to each other and interact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob C Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Peter Brötzmann Chicago Tentet, "Be Music Night" featuring 10 poems by Kenneth Patchen, read by Mike Person. Recorded in Chicago, November 2004, to be releases on Okkkadisk in May 2005 Hey, I almost went to this show but wasn't feeling that well that night. I might pick this up, depending on the reviews. I did go to the show, and I probably won't bother to pick up the disc. It was just okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 (edited) Michael Ehlers was in attendance at the fantastic Fred Anderson, William Parker, Hamid Drake show last night, so, hopefully, some of this music will end up being released. He mentioned a previous show in Montreal, so this seems to be an Eremite tour, which I hadn't realized. If you have a chance to see these guys I highly recommend doing so. Fred has more stamina than most people half his age and it is a joy to listen to Hamid and William listen to each other and interact. Incidentally, thonight I was listenig to Fred Anderson - "Kidd" Jordan - Hamid Drake - William Parker: "Two Days In April" (Eremite). Captivating listening experience - despite some shortcomings. It is really fascinating to hear the contrast between Anderson and Jordan (they are more or less of the same age, btw). Anderson is very much in the confort zone - playing bluesy lyrical "traditional" free jazz the way he might have been playing it for decades. All played in the fairly limited (and beautifully sounding) middle range of the tenor sound spectrum (no altissimo screeming, no low-end growling either), with a few cliches (particualrly this fast repetative three-note pattern... Joe Henderson used to overdo it it as well sometimes). Rhythm section tends to lock into grooves (what a surprise), and in Anderson-Drake-Parker passages it all sounds just way too comfortable. All is different when Jordan jumps in. I found that I couldn't help but focus on his playing exlusively - it is mesmerizing. To begin with, Jordan has an amazing sound here - more aggressive, biting and piercing than Anderson's, with more insane Ayler vibrato, and using the whole tenor's range - particularly seeminly effortless altissimo wailings which sound absolutely unique. Jordan's technique is impressive (as far as I can judge), he can play as fast as anyone. To me Jordan sounds here like he is constantly searching, probing and investigating. He sounds definitely less relaxed and comfortable than Anderson - but I like it this way... as if he is not content with what he plays, so he keeps pushing and pushing, always trying to explore something new. IMO, he also listens more intently to other playsrs of the band than other members - particulalry to Anderson, who he seems to be provoking from time to time (in a couple of moments he takes Anderson's phrases and develops them to something totally insane, as if saying "hey man, with this you can go HERE and HERE and HERE") - but it does not seem to me that Anderson is responding too much. Additional porblem comes from the rhythm section - Drake and Parker are just not "free" enough for Jordan, which is particularly obvious when Anderson lays out. You can't do the groove vamp when there is a shuttle launch into stratosphere behind you. Then there are a couple of rather lengthy Parker solos... . Drake is doing his same good thing, like elsewhere. OK, to cut the long story short, excellent disc with some phenomenal playing by Kidd Jordan. Edited December 14, 2004 by Д.Д. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 FWIW there's a new Territory Band disc out, too--leftovers from the same session, I believe. It's a double CD but it's only just over 80 minutes of music between the two (including one alt-take). I've only listened to the 1st disc, it's OK without really doing a lot for me. Not from the same sessions. Atlas was recorded feb 2001 and Map Theory is from Sept 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 (edited) IMO, he also listens more intently to other playsrs of the band than other members - particulalry to Anderson, who he seems to be provoking from time to time (in a couple of moments he takes Anderson's phrases and develops them to something totally insane, as if saying "hey man, with this you can go HERE and HERE and HERE") - but it does not seem to me that Anderson is responding too much. Additional porblem comes from the rhythm section - Drake and Parker are just not "free" enough for Jordan, which is particularly obvious when Anderson lays out. You can't do the groove vamp when there is a shuttle launch into stratosphere behind you. Then there are a couple of rather lengthy Parker solos... . Drake is doing his same good thing, like elsewhere. OK, to cut the long story short, excellent disc with some phenomenal playing by Kidd Jordan. I saw this group: Fred Anderson, Kidd Jordan, Hamiet Bluiett, Jeff Parker, Harrison Bankhead, Hamid Drake a few months back at the Chicago Jazz Festival. Kidd, Fred, Hamiet and Hamid were all fantastic. I think Kidd and Fred really work well together. I think Fred really listens and responds well to Kidd, he just does so in his own way. He converses with Kidd, rather than being led by where Kidd has gone. I couldn't hear a note Jeff Parker played the whole set. Edited December 14, 2004 by John B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 for those of you willing to explore the electro-acoustic waters I have some new and some revised recommendations: The first two ErstLive discs are both fantastic. The first (Rowe/Beins) is more accesible, at least to my ears. The second (Rowe/Lehn/Schmickler/Nakamura) took me longer to get into, but might be the more rewarding of the two, over time. Either way, EL001 is a hell of a lot of fun. I've also started listening to the new 3cd set by MIMEO (basically every European musician who has appeared on Erstwhile, with a few exceptions) called Lifting Concrete Lightly. My expectations weren't very high, as the music was part of an installation piece, with crowds wandering the gallery and musicians inhabiting various areas o the building. I was wrong. Based on the first disc and a half this will easily make my top 10 list for the year. I would not recommend this one to someone just dipping their toes into the eai waters but, for someone aleady interested in exploring this genre, it is a fascinating and reasonably priced set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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