fasstrack Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 (edited) I had my first experience and it wasn't pleasant. I won't say who or what, but someone said 'you don't know shit about so-and-so'. Maybe it was in the heat of the moment and probably he ain't a bad guy. Hell, he may even have been right. But he went wrong going personal. It's childish IMO, and unneccesary. I wrote something back in anger, then deleted it only to be called 'chicken' (schoolyard taunt?) by the guy, who I saw right then and there was 'cruisin' for a bruisin'. No, genius: I didn't want to go there and regretted responding in anger. Get it? I told him I would not succumb to stupidity and that still stands. I understand there is an ignore device, and I guess I'll use it. It's a drag to have to, though. You know? Please don't ask me to cite chapter, thread, and verse. We're all adults here, right? I'm putting this out and movin' on. I won't even post again on this thread. If anyone wants to communicate PM or email me on this. Here's the thing: I quit Internet groups over a couple of negative incidents that happened offline involving people met online. I don't claim that I was (or am) an angel. I don't, however, have the time for negativity and will not be involved in stupidity. I am a professional musician of intense personality and strong opinions. Debate is at times neccesary and it is American and democratic. If discussions do get heated, though, I prefer civility or I will be gone in a heartbeat. I've mixed it up at times with Allen Lowe and Larry Kart, but if I didn't respect their intellects and passion I would not even bother. They mixed it back, but always respectfully, without 9-year-old name calling. If someone doesn't like something I write or me they also don't have to answer. I don't need that much attention, believe me. I like this community b/c it mostly is frequented by knowledgeable jazz players, fans, and general thinkers. I've made friends and hung out with Lazaro Vega and Paul Secor. They are great guys. I've enjoyed corresponding with others, including Mr. Albertson, who I enjoyed years ago as a host locally on WBAI. I want to make friends here, as I've done through music my entire life and intent do keep on doing. I will stay away from bullshit here, when it regretfully occurs. (It seems rare, a good thing). Simple respect. Attack the statement, and support yours with intelligent input, NOT the person. We're not 6-year olds. Edited March 29, 2009 by fasstrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 It was me. A murdered friend was mentioned and I got excited. No excuse, no apology, just the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted March 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 One final comment from me. I reached out personally and we're all ready to move on. I leave this open only in hopes some good will come out of it. If this turns into a tit-for-tatorama between various people with beefs you (the universal)are going to make me very disappointed----not to mentioned a bit depressed.............. 'uh, people....can we get along?'............................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 (edited) I have two things to say (and I'll put them in the same post, thank you! ) : 1 - Strong opinions breed strong responses. 2 - Even allowing for human imperfection, drama in the face of getting what you give is pretty lame. Edited March 29, 2009 by JSngry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 It's nice when people actually apologize. :blush2: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 (edited) I love you guys................................................................. well, most of you guys..... well, some of you guys - the ones who send me money - Edited March 29, 2009 by AllenLowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 This is neither here nor there, but a while back there was some new poster who started attacking me out of the blue, even in threads I had nothing to do with. He/she seems to be gone now. I have no clue what their problemo was, other than a general distaste for me, which I can sympathize with. Maybe it was one of my neighbors. ... Hug it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I'm sorry for some of the things I said to Clem. Just don't tell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blajay Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I went off on Chuck once early on in my participation here. I sent him a personal note and apologized. I was embarrassed. Glad to say we've gotten along great since, and I have the utmost respect for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Chuck's one of the most no-bullshit people I've ever met, him and my old man. Doesn't mean that they're perfect, just means that they say what they mean, and can you can bank on it not being phony or schmoozy or "aw-shucks" passive aggressive. What you hear is what was meant to be said, for better or worse, rougher or smoother. Me myself, I'd like to live in a world where that type of unambiguousness was a more common quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I'm sorry for some of the things I said to Clem. Just don't tell him. Aw man, don't be. I mean, I dig and respect Brian, but hell, sometimes you just gotta call him on his bullshit, just so he knows that you know, if you know what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I'm sorry for some of the things I said to Clem. Just don't tell him. Aw man, don't be. I mean, I dig and respect Brian, but hell, sometimes you just gotta call him on his bullshit, just so he knows that you know, if you know what I mean That's his name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 I do know what you mean Jim. But sometimes I went too far over a line that I don't like to cross, just so PO'd by his arrogant douchebagginess. And I'm sorry that I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I'm sorry for some of the things I said to Clem. Just don't tell him. Aw man, don't be. I mean, I dig and respect Brian, but hell, sometimes you just gotta call him on his bullshit, just so he knows that you know, if you know what I mean Word. Didn't get the guy at first so we traded nasty shit back and forth but found out later we had some common ground after he quized me one day about Eddie's Sweet Shop. As for what you say about Chuck, I agree as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted March 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) I love you guys................................................................. well, most of you guys..... well, some of you guys - the ones who send me money - Allen...... I started to crack up reading this. But I think you shudda stopped at ¨I love you guys..... Kinda like a funny parody in the 70s in National Lampoon called Jimmy the Weasel explains life and how to get laid....or something. They´re buttering someone up to catch him off guard so they can whack him. They ´take him out, get him drunk on his ass, introduce him to a couple of celebrities....maybe even Frank. He introduces us to his daughter. ¨Ï love you guys¨, he says. We slip the f(/)ing rope around his neck. One, two, three it goes, a cakewalk.... Edited March 30, 2009 by fasstrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enterprise Server Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Late post from an outsider: Nice to see folks who can look past their knife fights and move on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted April 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Late post from an outsider: Nice to see folks who can look past their knife fights and move on.... Did that long ago........Old news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 question is whether to move on, or move out - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 question is whether to move on, or move out - or Move Up...ala The Jeffersons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 well, I would like a piece of pie - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Great. Now I'm hungry again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 We're having pumpkin pie for dessert tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) Great. Now I'm hungry again. Yeah especially now that beans don't burn on the grill. Later for that. Fish, however, do continue to fry in the kitchen, and will do so forever, at least as long as I have anything to say about it. Edited April 12, 2009 by JSngry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkeith Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 I'm actually the nucleus of this circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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