papsrus Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Not willing to drop the $$ for the complete Verve box right now, so I'm thinking this would be a good (cheap) introduction to Parker on Verve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Not willing to drop the $$ for the complete Verve box right now, so I'm thinking this would be a good (cheap) introduction to Parker on Verve. You're right there! Contains the wonderful "Now's the Time" and "Laird Baird" sessions, his finest work on Verve IMHO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 But he did szit in, and it was amateurishly recorded, although not particulalry well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Charlie Parker recordings you should listen to: All of 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Charlie Parker recordings you should listen to: All of 'em. Picked up the above mentioned title, and this: "Jay McShann -- Blues from Kansas City" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 All of them? Amen to that brother. However, if you don't want to do that, the one thing you have to get is the Complete Savoy and Dial (the 8 disc set), plus the three disc Live Performances on Savoy. Bird's rendition of White Christmas is worth the whole set. Another essential is the Verve. If you don't want the Complete set (also 8 cds I think), Verve did a master set of about 3 or 4 cds). The Jay McShann stuff is also great. The Upttown concert with Diz is also very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 The Verve complete box set is 10 discs. I thought I had just about everything, yet this thread has resulted in my ordering two additional discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 All of them? ... No no, I meant I'd ordered the compilation titled "Charlie Parker Hi Fi." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Not willing to drop the $$ for the complete Verve box right now, so I'm thinking this would be a good (cheap) introduction to Parker on Verve. Seriously, this and the Jay McShann are good places to start. Someday you should maybe think seriously about getting the complete Dial recordings if you don't already have them, or get a copy from someone. Essential stuff. (That Uptown Bird and Diz live disc is great, too.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesbro Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I ordered the Open Door disc. Thanks for posting the amazon link. I got those 2 Birdland disc about 6 months ago. Glad I did as they were less that 15 bucks each, those prices are crazy now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmonahan Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Charlie Parker recordings you should listen to: All of 'em. Picked up the above mentioned title, and this: "Jay McShann -- Blues from Kansas City" That's the one. Bird only solos on a few tracks, but the solos are amazing, and I've always liked Walter Brown's blues singing. greg mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 (That Uptown Bird and Diz live disc is great, too.) All the Uptown Bird are great reissues. . . recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Charlie Parker recordings you should listen to: All of 'em. Picked up the above mentioned title, and this: "Jay McShann -- Blues from Kansas City" That's the one. Bird only solos on a few tracks, but the solos are amazing, and I've always liked Walter Brown's blues singing. greg mo The is much more great Bird with McShann on the live recordings, most of which are in quite good sound. I recommend them VERY highly. They were avaliable on an LP and then CD entitled "Early Bird." They have since been released on many discs in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Charlie Parker recordings you should listen to: All of 'em. Picked up the above mentioned title, and this: "Jay McShann -- Blues from Kansas City" That's the one. Bird only solos on a few tracks, but the solos are amazing, and I've always liked Walter Brown's blues singing. greg mo The is much more great Bird with McShann on the live recordings, most of which are in quite good sound. I recommend them VERY highly. They were avaliable on an LP and then CD entitled "Early Bird." They have since been released on many discs in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat5 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 "The Happy Bird" may not have really inspired Bird but the Wardell Gray solos are a real treat. It is a record worth having. To be a completest, you would also want to have the Dean Benedetti Bird recordings. http://jazzinchicago.org/educates/journal/...-charlie-parker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enterprise Server Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Life without Bird would be like a tree without leaves....GOTTA HAVE IT!!! I can never get enough of listening to him. I have a very extensive collection of his music on both records and CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffcrom Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 (edited) There's a great session from Dec. 1950 - a WJZ broadcast from Birdland that has some of the greatest Bird I've heard - Bird w. Red Rodney, Kenny Drew, Curley Russell, & Blakey. Bird is on fire and the rest of the band is right with him. The set begins with a version of "Anthropology" taken at an insane tempo. Kenny Drew was 22 when this was recorded, and this contains some of his best playing - certainly the most fiery I've heard. Art Blakey sounds like he was ready to explode. At times, it seems like Curley Russell's rock steady bass was all that was holding the band together. Listening to it again today, I had the feeling that if this music had been recorded in high fidelity it might blow my speakers apart. I have it on a Royal Jazz CD, available here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00...7181&sr=8-1 Don't believe the review - The sound isn't much, but the music is fantastic. Incidentally, the rest of the CD contains three performances by Tony Fruscella, Bill Triglia, and probably Dave Schildkraut - not Bird, as the liners advertise. I have the vast majority of what has been issued by Bird, but I don't have this session. Just ordered the Royal Jazz CD - I've had Royal Jazz Vol. 1 for years; don't know why I never got Vol. 2. Thanks for the review. I listened to this set for the first time last night, and I agree with Paul that the music just smokes. The transfer drives me crazy, though - the pitch is between a half step and a whole step sharp. When I get a chance, I'm going to dump it into Audacity and try my hand at some pitch correction. Thanks again for the tip on this music. Edited May 30, 2009 by jeffcrom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted May 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) I like the Live at Rocklands a lot. BTW Where can one fin the Open Door material? I did 't see it at Amazon or CDUniverse. Anyone care to opine on these two: "Complete Live at the Cafe Society" "Complete Live at the Rockland Palace" CORRECTED: The first is a collection of 1950 live recordings at Cafe Society comprised of medium-tempo tunes and ballads that were somewhat rare for Parker to perform at this stage of his career. Band includes Kenny Dorham on trumpet, Al Haig on piano, Tommy Potter on bass and Roy Haynes on drums. Edited May 31, 2009 by papsrus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasimado Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 I like the Live at Rocklands a lot. BTW Where can one fin the Open Door material? I did 't see it at Amazon or CDUniverse. Anyone care to opine on these two: "Complete Live at the Cafe Society" "Complete Live at the Rockland Palace" CORRECTED: The first is a collection of 1950 live recordings at Cafe Society comprised of medium-tempo tunes and ballads that were somewhat rare for Parker to perform at this stage of his career. Band includes Kenny Dorham on trumpet, Al Haig on piano, Tommy Potter on bass and Roy Haynes on drums. Both are essential IMO. Cafe Society has an extended *Lover Come Back to Me* that has some of the best Bird you can hear. Rockland has a version of *Lester Leaps In* that is simply miraculous. Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 you have to hear the Jay McShann bird acetates this dude i know found in a K.C. radio station you also have to hear bird with a b3 organ (milt buckner) the only known eg. of bird w/ organ bird do 20 min lover come back to me with mundell lowe and tony scott bird sittin in w/ woody herman doin four brothers n shit bird sittin w/ kenton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 bird sittin in w/ woody herman doin four brothers n shit Yes, I've got that one. You can hear him learning the middle eight of "Four Brothers" as he goes along! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 I'm confused (I'm often confused)about the Birdland material. I have a 4 disc box set on Ember. People keep writing about 2 volumes. Also, though the Ember box claims to be complete I haves a vague memory that Ember also released a cd of some more Birdland material plus some from Cafe Society. Anyone have that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 you have to hear the Jay McShann bird acetates this dude i know found in a K.C. radio station you also have to hear bird with a b3 organ (milt buckner) the only known eg. of bird w/ organ bird do 20 min lover come back to me with mundell lowe and tony scott bird sittin in w/ woody herman doin four brothers n shit bird sittin w/ kenton I have a couple of these on cd. Do you mind telling us what cds they're all on or if they are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted May 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 I'm confused (I'm often confused)about the Birdland material. I have a 4 disc box set on Ember. People keep writing about 2 volumes. Also, though the Ember box claims to be complete I haves a vague memory that Ember also released a cd of some more Birdland material plus some from Cafe Society. Anyone have that one? I received the ember Birdland 4-disc box that you have the other day (wonderful!) and did notice that it's subtitled "Vol. 1." Rest assured it contains all of the material on the two separate 2-disc Birdlands that are titled "Vol. 1" and "Vol. 2." Don't know about the additional ember release you refer to with more Birdland material and Cafe Society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 med juck: i would have no idea what cds they are reissued on because i have them all on lp....the mcshann is on onyx. the others are all private pressings with funny joke-record label names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_forumlogo.png.a607ef20a6e0c299ab2aa6443aa1f32e.png)
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.