Amy Winehouse

[J.A.W.]

Several sources are reporting that Winehouse purchased $2,000 worth of crack and heroin the night she passed away. Self-destructive to the very end. The idea of a death wish has to be part of the discussion. Makes you wonder what might have happened if she'd never hooked up with that scum sucker Blake Fielder-Civil. As I understand it, Winehouse was vehemently opposed to drugs until she met this guy. But, I suppose if it wasn't him, it probably would have been someone else.

On a more upbeat note, there is a fair amount of chatter concerning a third Winehouse album. I guess she'd finished a lot of the vocal work on about a dozen new tunes, so filling in whatever blanks remain, assuming the lawyers don't get involved, shouldn't pose an insurmountable problem.

And the family says she had a brain seizure from with drawl symptoms. We'll know more when the tests are in.

Anybody that deep into their addiction has such a don't give a fuck/don't care attitude, it amounts to a death wish.

I think you mean withdrawal symptoms

Edited August 1, 2011 by J.A.W.

[Free For All]

Several sources are reporting that Winehouse purchased $2,000 worth of crack and heroin the night she passed away. Self-destructive to the very end. The idea of a death wish has to be part of the discussion. Makes you wonder what might have happened if she'd never hooked up with that scum sucker Blake Fielder-Civil. As I understand it, Winehouse was vehemently opposed to drugs until she met this guy. But, I suppose if it wasn't him, it probably would have been someone else.

On a more upbeat note, there is a fair amount of chatter concerning a third Winehouse album. I guess she'd finished a lot of the vocal work on about a dozen new tunes, so filling in whatever blanks remain, assuming the lawyers don't get involved, shouldn't pose an insurmountable problem.

And the family says she had a brain seizure from with drawl symptoms. We'll know more when the tests are in.

Anybody that deep into their addiction has such a don't give a fuck/don't care attitude, it amounts to a death wish.

I think you mean withdrawal symptoms

Actually, here in Florida & Georgia many people show signs of "with drawl".

[J.A.W.]

Several sources are reporting that Winehouse purchased $2,000 worth of crack and heroin the night she passed away. Self-destructive to the very end. The idea of a death wish has to be part of the discussion. Makes you wonder what might have happened if she'd never hooked up with that scum sucker Blake Fielder-Civil. As I understand it, Winehouse was vehemently opposed to drugs until she met this guy. But, I suppose if it wasn't him, it probably would have been someone else.

On a more upbeat note, there is a fair amount of chatter concerning a third Winehouse album. I guess she'd finished a lot of the vocal work on about a dozen new tunes, so filling in whatever blanks remain, assuming the lawyers don't get involved, shouldn't pose an insurmountable problem.

And the family says she had a brain seizure from with drawl symptoms. We'll know more when the tests are in.

Anybody that deep into their addiction has such a don't give a fuck/don't care attitude, it amounts to a death wish.

I think you mean withdrawal symptoms

Actually, here in Florida & Georgia many people show signs of "with drawl".

[7/4]

Several sources are reporting that Winehouse purchased $2,000 worth of crack and heroin the night she passed away. Self-destructive to the very end. The idea of a death wish has to be part of the discussion. Makes you wonder what might have happened if she'd never hooked up with that scum sucker Blake Fielder-Civil. As I understand it, Winehouse was vehemently opposed to drugs until she met this guy. But, I suppose if it wasn't him, it probably would have been someone else.

On a more upbeat note, there is a fair amount of chatter concerning a third Winehouse album. I guess she'd finished a lot of the vocal work on about a dozen new tunes, so filling in whatever blanks remain, assuming the lawyers don't get involved, shouldn't pose an insurmountable problem.

And the family says she had a brain seizure from with drawl symptoms. We'll know more when the tests are in.

Anybody that deep into their addiction has such a don't give a fuck/don't care attitude, it amounts to a death wish.

I think you mean withdrawal symptoms

I did.

[JSngry]

Or as those with drawl would say, "Ah DEE-ud"

[sonnymax]

Today, I read unconfirmed reports that Winehouse had been planning to adopt a child.

While her death was a tragedy, there may have been an even greater one had she lived.

[Alexander]

Going back a bit in this thread, somebody brought up the question of why celebrity kills so many, and someone else stated that "it isn't the celebrity that kills, it's the disease."

I would agree with that, for the most part. However, celebrity is a factor in several ways. People are less inclined to say "no" to a famous person with money to burn. That's why Elvis Presley was able to abuse prescription drugs the way he did. What doctor was going to refuse to write Elvis a prescription for sleeping pills or laxatives? It's why Michael Jackson was able to have plastic surgery until his face fell off. When a person gets famous, there are more opportunities to abuse, and fewer people willing to stick their necks out and try to intervene...

[7/4]

Going back a bit in this thread, somebody brought up the question of why celebrity kills so many, and someone else stated that "it isn't the celebrity that kills, it's the disease."

I would agree with that, for the most part. However, celebrity is a factor in several ways. People are less inclined to say "no" to a famous person with money to burn. That's why Elvis Presley was able to abuse prescription drugs the way he did. What doctor was going to refuse to write Elvis a prescription for sleeping pills or laxatives? It's why Michael Jackson was able to have plastic surgery until his face fell off. When a person gets famous, there are more opportunities to abuse, and fewer people willing to stick their necks out and try to intervene...

That was me.

Check out this article in todays NYTimez: Who Falls to Addiction, and Who Is Unscathed?

Edited August 2, 2011 by 7/4

[fasstrack]

When a person gets famous, there are more opportunities to abuse, and fewer people willing to stick their necks out and try to intervene...

One would hope the person's real friends/family/spouse would intervene. We know the hangers-on will continue to hang on and tell the star what they want to hear. The problem may be in part that in a lot of cases, water seeking its own level, the friends might just be equally screwed-up. Regardless of fame or money, I feel really bad for anyone so isolated---by their own design or the trappings of celebrity---that they have not one friend to kick their ass and tell them to go get help. That person is lost. But the well-worn cliche about no one being able to be helped unless they really want to is, obviously, true. So the celeb lucky enough to have caring friends to tell them but too far gone to listen or care is the most lost.

[fasstrack]

Check out this article in todays NYTimez: Who Falls to Addiction, and Who Is Unscathed?

Good article.

Bringing it closer to home, jazz musicians, I was close friends with a much-beloved musician (I loved him very much myself) who was addicted to heroin. Said addiction definitely hastened not only his own early demise but a cocaine habit contributed to the placement in a nursing home and eventually the death of his wife (also a really nice person).

I'm not sure if this guy was 'wired for addiction' as per some of the cited studies. I'm not a scientist who's done research of that type. I like to think I have a little bit of insight into people though, so I'll say this: This person had a lightning-fast mind. He played fast, reacted fast, liked fast tempos. It was hard to follow his speech, he talked so fast. The ideas expressed were brilliant, as was his musical output. He once explained to me in a candid moment the reasons for his addiction. I don't doubt them, nor would I fluff off all the sociological-psychological-environmental data. But I also always felt that the guy literally couldn't keep up with the pace of his own thoughts. They were spinning almost out of control and he needed a damper just to handle it.

Again, not to simplify this, but I suspect this is far from the first brilliant person moving too fast in the cerebellum to discover H as an effective slower-downer....

[B. Goren.]

Today is the first birthday Amy Winehouse cant celebrate. She could have been 28 today.

[sonnymax]

The coroner's official report concluded that Winehouse died of acute alcohol poisoning. With a blood alcohol level of .4% (more than five times the drunk driving limit in the U.K.) she literally drank herself to death.

[7/4]

Sad news, I thought we'd heard the last of it a few weeks ago. She had a relapse and it killed her.

Seems like her family didn't want the world to know she slipped.

[Dave James]

While this comes as no surprise, it makes her epitaph even sadder. I agree that here parents were in denial. Maybe she was so far gone, no one could have helped her, but if they could have squared up with the facts, who knows, it might have made a difference. As is the case with so many musicians who left sooner than they should, all of us are deprived of what could have been. In the case of Amy Winehouse, there's hardly anything left. What? 20-30 songs? A couple of hours of music? Wow.

[ejp626]

I suppose people can do whatever they want with their money or to help them through grieving, but this seems seriously out-of-whack: Amy Winehouse statue planned for the Roundhouse in Camden "to recognise her contribution to music."

Story here

[Dave James]

I'm probably as big an AW fan as there is, and I believe her to have been a singular talent, but this seems pretty excessive for someone whose flame burned brightly for only a handful of years.

[sidewinder]

There seems to be a bit of an Amy Winehouse cult in Camden - almost a religion. They should be celebrating local boys 'Madness' !