are there jazz standards you strongly dislike?

[A Lark Ascending]

'Satin Doll'

[Head Man]

"A Night In Tunisia"

[robertoart]

All the ones sung by ageing rock stars and cabaret performers.

[BillF]

"Caravan"

[Larry Kart]

"More importantly probably, the whole hard bop rhythmic language and feel of the '50s/'60s is just very, very difficult to reproduce..."

Sure is. Just listen to the Davis Quintet play "Tadd's Delight" and imagine any group of players today getting that feel.

Closing the circle: Far from comprehensive Amazon search yields two other contemporary covers of "The Outlaw," neither of which I've heard.

Joe Chambers: http://www.amazon.com/Outlaw-Joe-Chambers/dp/B000E40Q6K/ref=sr_1_9?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1333543717&sr=1-9

Danny D'Imperio: http://www.amazon.com/The-Outlaw-Danny-Group-DImperio/dp/B00000JFRP/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1333544183&sr=1-1

The Chambers is a Latin version -- sounds interesting but hard to compare with others.

Deep's band, as one might expect, just nails it. Got to get that album.

[crisp]

"Caravan"

Yes! "This is so exciting..." No it's not.

[Pete C]

Maybe Caravan's faux-exotica puts it in a similar category with Blues March & Hoe Down, i.e. where the "different" ends up being the "artificial."

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Norman Simmons' very slow version of 'Caravan' is delicious. You can see those weary camels plodding through the Sahara.

I don't mind what people play, so long as it comes out right for me.

MG

[Head Man]

"Caravan"

Yes....that too!

[Shawn]

Pretty much, if Stanley Turrentine played it, or if it was on a CTI release, I hated it.

If Stanley Turrentine is on it, or if it was release on CTI I probably LOVE it. Stanley is one of my most-played jazz artists, I don't see that ever changing.

[A Lark Ascending]

I don't mind what people play, so long as it comes out right for me.

Yes. There aren't many tunes I dislike in themselves - 'Misty', 'Feelings' etc aside.

But there are some I could do with a break from due to their constantly being played - not necessarily a problem in the tunes themselves. But that weariness can be overcome by an inspiring performance.

Edited April 4, 2012 by A Lark Ascending

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

I don't mind what people play, so long as it comes out right for me.

Yes. There aren't many tunes I dislike in themselves - 'Misty', 'Feelings' etc aside.

But there are some I could do with a break from due to their constantly being played - not necessarily a problem in the tunes themselves. But that weariness can be overcome by an inspiring performance.

Groove Holmes has done super versons of those two.

MG

[AllenLowe]

if was played by Hubert Laws and released on CTI, I also probably hate it.

or Don Sebesky. Or George Benson. Or anything with a brightly colored cover and Creed Taylor's name on it. That stuff usually sends me out looking for a wooden cross and a stake with a sharp end on it.

Edited April 4, 2012 by AllenLowe

[A Lark Ascending]

I don't mind what people play, so long as it comes out right for me.

Yes. There aren't many tunes I dislike in themselves - 'Misty', 'Feelings' etc aside.

But there are some I could do with a break from due to their constantly being played - not necessarily a problem in the tunes themselves. But that weariness can be overcome by an inspiring performance.

Groove Holmes has done super versons of those two.

MG

There's a live Bill Frisell CD where he starts to play one of them and stops. Someone in the audience sniggers and Frisell barks something to the effect of 'What?'

I don't much like 'My Ship'....but I like the version on 'Miles Ahead', mainly because of the Evans arrangement of the orchestra.

[JSngry]

That stuff usually sends me out looking for a wooden cross and a stake with a sharp end on it.

A modern tone arm & cartridge would do the same thing with a lot less effort!

[alocispepraluger102]

I don't mind what people play, so long as it comes out right for me.

Yes. There aren't many tunes I dislike in themselves - 'Misty', 'Feelings' etc aside.

But there are some I could do with a break from due to their constantly being played - not necessarily a problem in the tunes themselves. But that weariness can be overcome by an inspiring performance.

Groove Holmes has done super versons of those two.

MG

There's a live Bill Frisell CD where he starts to play one of them and stops. Someone in the audience sniggers and Frisell barks something to the effect of 'What?'

I don't much like 'My Ship'....but I like the version on 'Miles Ahead', mainly because of the Evans arrangement of the orchestra.

a spacious nine minute bob brookmeyer orchestral arrangement, with bob soloing, on the tomato label with german vocalist helen schneider(right as the rain) is my favorite.

the recording includes superb arrangements by bob b. and helen schneider.

Edited April 4, 2012 by alocispepraluger102

[Pete C]

I've put two and two together (and two threads together) and have come to the conclusion that Someone To Watch Over Me is best when played or sung by gay males.

[Mark Stryker]

Never cared for "Misty" either but on the other hand always liked "I Want to Talk About You" (basically same changes). Here's an interesting version:

[Alexander Hawkins]

Never cared for "Misty" either but on the other hand always liked "I Want to Talk About You" (basically same changes). Here's an interesting version:

The cadenza on that performance always blows me away. Extraordinary.

[Peter Friedman]

"More importantly probably, the whole hard bop rhythmic language and feel of the '50s/'60s is just very, very difficult to reproduce..."

Sure is. Just listen to the Davis Quintet play "Tadd's Delight" and imagine any group of players today getting that feel.

Closing the circle: Far from comprehensive Amazon search yields two other contemporary covers of "The Outlaw," neither of which I've heard.

Joe Chambers: http://www.amazon.com/Outlaw-Joe-Chambers/dp/B000E40Q6K/ref=sr_1_9?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1333543717&sr=1-9

Danny D'Imperio: http://www.amazon.com/The-Outlaw-Danny-Group-DImperio/dp/B00000JFRP/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1333544183&sr=1-1

"The Outlaw" is the title of the Sackville CD by Danny D'Imperio. That group does , in my opinion, a wonderful job with the title tune.

[AllenLowe]

I think my bigger beef is when rythm sections always double time the blowing parts of ballads - this has spoiled a lot of standards for me. I used to always have to yell "don't double up!"

[JSngry]

I used to always have to yell "don't double up!"

I*'ve played restaurants where the chefs would yell that to people eating the food...

[AllenLowe]

as long as it's not "all you can eat" night -

[Larry Kart]

Now that I think of it, "That's All" is a nagging tune.

[crisp]

Conversely there are standards that never seem to grate no matter how often they are played. I've never been particularly for or against Tenderly, but when I uploaded a load of my albums to iTunes I was surprised at how often it came up. Practically every major singer, musician and orchestra seems to have recorded it, yet it's never worn out its welcome (at least as far as I'm concerned).

Again, though, I wonder what the appeal is. It's a nice tune, but nothing special.