jazzbo Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Welcome to my non-alphabetical-order dictionary. Yes, it's a bit harder to look things up, but, ah, the freedom... This isn't a dictionary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 What's funny is that the open Rodney King thread is getting no traffic at all, whereas this one about the closing of its duplicate is turning into a Johnny Richards chart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) And Hans, yes there's plenty of attitude on posters' part, but is it the moderator's job to sling it back? I see that a lot is all I'm saying. You can't win if you're a moderator I guess. Thanks for all you do. So members can say anything they like to a moderator, while a moderator should watch his mouth. It doesn't work that way, at least not for me; attitude from members and harassment in PMs drove me away. Edited June 18, 2012 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 I consider it a privilege to be able to post on Organissimo. I haven't had it happen, but if a thread I started was closed by a moderator and I didn't understand why, I would take the time to send a PM and find out why before I went public with a complaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Welcome to my non-alphabetical-order dictionary. Yes, it's a bit harder to look things up, but, ah, the freedom... This isn't a dictionary. No, but organizing things here so they can be readily found would seem to be a virtue with no downside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 The downside appears to be that it's a losing battle with little appreciation given to the frustrated keepers of the faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Now wait a second here - this has turned into a thread about duplicate threads, and we've already got one of those: I'd like to see a pure picture dictionary, where there's no words and everything's in photographic order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) I can't find the Slate article to link to it, but the columnist claimed that everyone could be sorted into a chaos Muppet/puppet (Cookie Monster) or an order Muppet/puppet (Bert). Same things play themselves out everywhere (Wiki moderators going around closing down stubs and claiming some articles aren't worth the pixels it takes to put on your screen). One of the built-in asymmetries is that only Order Muppets would even dream of taking on the role of moderator in the first place. The Chaos Muppets (and in this context I am definitely one) don't see the big deal in a few extra socks (or threads) laying around and do get a bit tired of the nagging. I don't expect this dynamic to ever change. I guess it is up to you how personally you take it. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough that neither side is "right" or "wrong"* -- and neither can fully understand the reason the other side is so driven to tidy things up or be slobby. * You can point to forum "rules" to try to win an argument about threads or whatnot, but that isn't really the point that people have vastly different perspectives on such things. And that's why they keep coming back to the surface over and over. Edited June 18, 2012 by ejp626 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cih Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 if dictionaries were written in chronological order instead of alphabetical you wouldn't have to rewrite the whole thing all the time, just add new stuff on the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Now wait a second here - this has turned into a thread about duplicate threads, and we've already got one of those: I'd like to see a pure picture dictionary, where there's no words and everything's in photographic order. I have an erotic dictionary where everything is in pornographic order. In a somewhat similar vein, I just ran across this in a new book by Charles Rosen: "When I was writing a review of Alban Berg's correspondence, I remarked to an elderly and very distinguished psychoanalyst, Sophie Lazarsfeld, that I was surprised by how many of Schoenberg's students seemed to enjoy being so badly treated by him. She replied: 'I have no time to explain this just now, but I can assure you that there are a great many masochists and not nearly enough sadists to go around.'" That's one of the funniest probably-unintentional jokes I've ever heard! It was intended to be funny (or at least witty) but also was what Lazarsfeld thought to be the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 With only a quick scan of this thread, it seems I need to do battle with Joe (friggin') Fields to protect my reputation! Dang. Did I miss something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 With only a quick scan of this thread, it seems I need to do battle with Joe (friggin') Fields to protect my reputation! Dang. Did I miss something else? Don't worry -- you can kick his ass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) It was intended to be funny (or at least witty) but also was what Lazarsfeld thought to be the truth. Then I don't think it's particularly either, to be honest. Edited June 18, 2012 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 If he has "Politics/Religion" blocked, would his search find it? Don't know and don't really care. That's no excuse for flinging crap at the walls. Besides, he is aware of the politics/religion forum, could reasonably assume that there might already be a King thread there, thus no mystery. Finally, and speaking only as the annoying moderator I am, if someone locks a thread I've started, the first thing I'd do is think what reasonable cause there might be for this rather than make accusations. If SS is sincerely puzzled, he could have asked a simple question. Maybe you should figure it out before you start flinging crap at the walls. That is pure bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) If he has "Politics/Religion" blocked, would his search find it? Don't know and don't really care. That's no excuse for flinging crap at the walls. Besides, he is aware of the politics/religion forum, could reasonably assume that there might already be a King thread there, thus no mystery. Finally, and speaking only as the annoying moderator I am, if someone locks a thread I've started, the first thing I'd do is think what reasonable cause there might be for this rather than make accusations. If SS is sincerely puzzled, he could have asked a simple question. Maybe you should figure it out before you start flinging crap at the walls. That is pure bullshit. And here we go again... Why don't you apply for a job as moderator, so we can start flinging crap at you. Sheesh. I'm out of here. Edited June 19, 2012 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 It was intended to be funny (or at least witty) but also was what Lazarsfeld thought to be the truth. Then I don't think it's particularly either, to be honest. John Cage: "I went to a concert at Town Hall. The composer whose works were being performed had provided program notes. One of those notes was to the effect that there is too much pain in the world. After the concert I was walking along with the composer and he was telling me how the performance had not been quite up to snuff. So I said, 'Well, I enjoyed the music, but I didn't agree with that program note about there being too much pain in the world.' He said, 'What? Don't you think there's too much?' I said, 'I think there's just the right amount.'" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yeah, how many lives have been fucked up by bad math? Hell, why would I know? How should i care? People do like their suppostional premises, and they do like for us to believe them. But me, I say fuck that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedwork Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) It was intended to be funny (or at least witty) but also was what Lazarsfeld thought to be the truth. Then I don't think it's particularly either, to be honest. John Cage: "I went to a concert at Town Hall. The composer whose works were being performed had provided program notes. One of those notes was to the effect that there is too much pain in the world. After the concert I was walking along with the composer and he was telling me how the performance had not been quite up to snuff. So I said, 'Well, I enjoyed the music, but I didn't agree with that program note about there being too much pain in the world.' He said, 'What? Don't you think there's too much?' I said, 'I think there's just the right amount.'" i agree that that Cage example is also another unfunny and unwitty quip. but it's soooooo zen. everything is as it should be, you know? go with the flow. like awesome dude... was there just the right amount of pain for Rodney King? Edited June 19, 2012 by thedwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the point of the Cage anecdote was that it was at once silly and pretentious for that composer to associate his piece of music with the idea that there is too much pain in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 And here we go again... Why don't you apply for a job as moderator, so we can start flinging crap at you. Sheesh. I'm out of here. Your flounce is duly noted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Surely "flounce" is one of the less-commonly used words here on the O-Board. That's kinda like a Johnny Richards piccolo part! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wheel Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 I can't find the Slate article to link to it, but the columnist claimed that everyone could be sorted into a chaos Muppet/puppet (Cookie Monster) or an order Muppet/puppet (Bert). Same things play themselves out everywhere (Wiki moderators going around closing down stubs and claiming some articles aren't worth the pixels it takes to put on your screen). The great Dahlia Lithwick. I'm not going to rant again about what I think our moderators should be prioritizing when they moderate, but I will say this: Larry, if you can't be bothered to think about the technical implications that stem from a decision of THREAD SMASH...you really need to find something else to be doing. Caring about how users experience your systems = Intertubes cardinal rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cih Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 maybe John Cage meant baguettes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 This isn't "users" experiencing Larry's "systems", this is a small-scale collective venture with a few volunteers in key positions doing essential work, and just one person acting as, in effect, treasurer. The rudeness and moderator-baiting works against all of us and not just against some imaginary power. No moderators = no board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 This isn't "users" experiencing Larry's "systems", this is a small-scale collective venture with a few volunteers in key positions doing essential work, and just one person acting as, in effect, treasurer. The rudeness and moderator-baiting works against all of us and not just against some imaginary power. No moderators = no board. Agreed. And in the end, what is this about? A thread got locked because it was a duplicate. So what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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