Chuck Nessa Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Not sure how much material has survived from "The Chase" but we recorded afternoon and evening programs. Interesting day. If I have the time I will post more about it later. Dexter, Jug and Don Byas (not recorded)! What a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 There's a couple of those Left Bank cds: LTD and XXL. They're ok. I assume they're not including the Resurgence of Dexter, which was on Jazzland, although tha's now a Fantasy label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Took this from the site I linked above - no idea if it really is accurate. But it will give some sort of an idea nevertheless: (just found out that the link was in the thread Lon killed, here it comes again: http://www.jazzdisco.org/verve/) As this site lists only four of these jam sessions, let's hope we get loads of additional material! (Maybe they could add the JATP things not in the box set...) Norman Granz' Jam Session Charlie Shavers (tp) Benny Carter, Johnny Hodges, Charlie Parker (as) Flip Phillips, Ben Webster (ts) Oscar Peterson (p) Barney Kessel (g) Ray Brown (B) J.C. Heard (d) Radio Recorders, Hollywood, CA, July, 1952 802-2 Jam Blues Mercury MGC 601, Clef MGC 4001, MGC 601, MGC 651, Verve MGV 8049, V/V6 8486, VE2 2508 803-3 What Is This Thing Called Love? Mercury MGC 602, Clef MGC 4002, MGC 602, MGC 652, Verve MGV 8050, V/V6 8486, VE2 2508 804-2 Ballad Medley Mercury MGC 601, Clef MGC 4001, MGC 601, MGC 651, Verve MGV 8049, MGV 8002, MGV 8100 3, VE2 2508 805-2 Funky Blues Mercury MGC 602, Clef MGC 4002, MGC 602, MGC 652, Verve MGV 8050, V/V6 8409, V/V6 8486, V3HB 8840, VE2 2508 * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #1 (Mercury MGC 601, Clef MGC 4001, MGC 601, MGC 651, Verve MGV 8049) * Funky Blues / The JATP All Stars (Verve V/V6 8486) * The Charlie Parker Sides / Norman Granz' Jam Session (Verve VE2 2508) * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #2 (Mercury MGC 602, Clef MGC 4002, MGC 602, MGC 652, Verve MGV 8050) * The Charlie Parker Story, #3 (Verve MGV 8002) * The Charlie Parker Story (Verve MGV 8100 3) * The Essential Charlie Parker (Verve V/V6 8409) * Return Engagement / Charlie Parker (Verve V3HB 8840) Norman Granz' Jam Session Harry Edison (tp) Buddy DeFranco (cl) Benny Carter, Willie Smith (as) Stan Getz, Wardell Gray (ts) Arnold Ross (p -3,4) Count Basie (p -1,2, org -3) Freddie Green (g) John Simmons (B) Buddy Rich (d) Los Angeles, CA, August 3, 1953 1. 1259-6 Apple Jam Clef MGC 4003, MGC 653, Verve MGV 8051, VSP 31 2. 1260-2 Lady Be Good Clef MGC 4004, MGC 654, Verve MGV 8052 3. 1261-2 Blues for the Count - 4. 1262-4 Ballad Medley Clef MGC 4003, MGC 653, Verve MGV 8051 * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #3 (Clef MGC 4003, MGC 653, Verve MGV 8051) * Stan Getz Plays Blues (Verve VSP 31) * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #4 (Clef MGC 4004, MGC 654, Verve MGV 8052) Norman Granz' Jam Session Roy Eldridge, Dizzy Gillespie (tp) Johnny Hodges (as) Illinois Jacquet, Flip Phillips, Ben Webster (ts) Lionel Hampton (vib) Oscar Peterson (p) Ray Brown (B) Buddy Rich (d) NYC, September 2, 1953 1280-3 Jam Blues Clef MGC 711, Verve MGV 8094 1281-3 Blue Lou Clef MGC 677, Verve MGV 8062 1282-3 Just You, Just Me - 1283-3 Ballad Medley Clef MGC 711, Verve MGV 8094 1284-3 Jammin' for Clef Clef MGC 4005, MGC 655, Verve MGV 8053 1285-2 Blue Room - * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #8 (Clef MGC 711, Verve MGV 8094) * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #7 (Clef MGC 677, Verve MGV 8062) * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #5 (Clef MGC 4005, MGC 655, Verve MGV 8053) Norman Granz' Jam Session Roy Eldridge, Dizzy Gillespie (tp) Bill Harris (tb) Buddy DeFranco (cl) Flip Phillips (ts) Oscar Peterson (p) Herb Ellis (g) Ray Brown (B) Louis Bellson (d) NYC, October 30, 1954 2032-1 Stompin' at the Savoy, Pt. 1 Clef MGC 656 2033-1 Stompin' at the Savoy, Pt. 2 - 2034-1 Lullaby in Rhythm Verve MGV 8196 2035-1 Funky Blues No. 2 - * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #6 (Clef MGC 656) * Norman Granz' Jam Session, #9 (Verve MGV 8196) ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Then the Tom Lord discography adds an unissued Jam Session date: Harry Edison, tp, Lester Young, Ben Webster, ts, Oscar Peterson, p, Herb Ellis, g, Ray Brown, b, Louis Bellson, dr, Jimmy Rushing, voc. LA, August 22, 1957. - Goin' to Chicago (Rushing, voc) - Someone to Watch Over Me Hope will see that included in the box. Sounds like reason enough to buy the set just for this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Then the Tom Lord discography adds an unissued Jam Session date: Harry Edison, tp, Lester Young, Ben Webster, ts, Oscar Peterson, p, Herb Ellis, g, Ray Brown, b, Louis Bellson, dr, Jimmy Rushing, voc. LA, August 22, 1957. - Goin' to Chicago (Rushing, voc) - Someone to Watch Over Me Hope will see that included in the box. Sounds like reason enough to buy the set just for this... Yes indeed! This looks very interesting! Hope they do a better job than with the JATP set! ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 It would be nice to see all this http://www.eclipse.net/~fitzgera/jazztet/ - through 1962 - in the Mosaic set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Got mail from Mosaic - the Jazztet set will be 7 CD ( ) and include the following: MEET THE JAZZTET Argo LP 664 - recorded February 1960 THE JAZZTET - BIG CITY SOUNDS Argo LP 672 - Recorded September 1960 THE JAZZTET & JOHN LEWIS Argo LP 684 - recorded December 1960/January 1961 THE JAZZTET AT BIRDHOUSE Argo LP 688 - recorded May 1961 THE JAZZTET - HERE AND NOW Mercury SR 60698 - recorded Feb/March 1962 THE JAZZTET - ANOTHER GIT TOGETHER Mercury SR 60737 - recorded May/June 1962 ART FARMER - ART Argo LP 678 - recorded September 1960 ART FARMER - PERCEPTION Argo LP 738 - recorded October 1961 BENNY GOLSON - TURNING POINT Mercury SR 20801 - recorded November 1962 BENNY GOLSON - FREE Argo LP 716 - recorded December 26, 1962 BENNY GOLSON - TAKE A NUMBER FROM 1 TO !0 Argo LP 681 - recorded December 1960 & April 1961 LISTEN TO ART FARMER AND THE ORCHESTRA Mercury SR 60766 - recorded Aug 1962 This is cool news! I know about half of these albums, and love every bit of them! And it's cool they're including "Art", "Perception" (coupled on one of those discs were Keepnews decided to omit two titles), "Listen to A.F. And The Orchestra", as well as Golson's "Free" and "Take A Number From 1 To 10"! All very cool records! As I have several of them on those rather cheap b/w Argo reissues (Jazztet Meets Lewis, Golson 1-10) on LP only, I will certainly get that set! ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 I have some of the cds, but I will definitely buy this set! Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 With Roy Eldridge, Tal Farlow and The Jazztet we have three Verve Elite releases that will be part of a new Mosaic/Verve set. Well, that's a trend!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJ Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 (edited) Man, I've held off picking up all the Jazztet stuff on CD for years dreaming that Mosaic would do them justice...I am psyched! And it's particularly cool they broadened the concept of the set a bit to include those excellent contemporaneous Farmer and Golson individual leader dates, given that only some of them have been issued on CD in the U.S. and then only in a rather Procrustean manner. Two of the Golsons (FREE and TAKE A NUMBER...) were reissued in that short-lived Chess reissue series with the color-coded artwork from a few years back...or at least sort of: Michael Cuscuna (surprisingly) lopped off 3 of the original 10 tracks of the TAKE A NUMBER...album - a particularly gratuitious hack job, since the CD length as issued was only 62 minutes and the rest would have fit!!! The Farmers appeared in the CD OUT OF THE PAST, which similarly saw Orrin Keepnews lopping off one track from each of the original albums while also resequencing the tracks. Since I have since picked up the Japanese imports of both full albums, I can tell you I have no idea why he left those cuts off - both are as strong as the rest of the stuff he did include. What a dork. Edited February 13, 2004 by DrJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Man, I've held off picking up all the Jazztet stuff on CD for years dreaming that Mosaic would do them justice...I am psyched! And it's particularly cool they broadened the concept of the set a bit to include those excellent contemporaneous Farmer and Golson individual leader dates, given that only some of them have been issued on CD in the U.S. and then only in a rather Procrustean manner. Two of the Golsons (FREE and TAKE A NUMBER...) were reissued in that short-lived Chess reissue series with the color-coded artwork from a few years back...or at least sort of: Orrin Keepnews lopped off 3 of the original 10 tracks of the TAKE A NUMBER...album - a particularly gratuitious hack job, since the CD length as issued was only 62 minutes and the rest would have fit!!! The Farmers appeared in the CD OUT OF THE PAST, which similarly saw Keepnews lopping off one track from each of the original albums while also resequencing the tracks. Since I have since picked up the Japanese imports of both full albums, I can tell you I have no idea why he left those cuts off - both are as strong as the rest of the stuff he did include. What a dork. I take it you were not pumping your fist in triumphant solidarity when Orrin got named for a Grammy the other night. (I & many others share your sentiments regarding his omissions--no news there, eh?) Good to see you out and about, DrJ. You were mentioned earlier today in the "Where is Michael Fitzgerald" thread... and then, presto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 BENNY GOLSON - TAKE A NUMBER FROM 1 TO 10 Argo LP 681 - recorded December 1960 & April 1961 Who's on this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJ Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 (edited) ghost of miles Posted: Feb 12 2004, 08:58 PMÂ Good to see you out and about, DrJ. You were mentioned earlier today in the "Where is Michael Fitzgerald" thread... and then, presto! Thanks my friend! I actually didn't see that thread, but some type of psychic energy must have found me because I just felt like posting today. I've been checking in periodically but way to busy to spend much time, let alone post...having a 7 month old (will update the Avatar picture accordingly momentarily) and a bunch of new job stuff will do that! Fitting that Keepnews would win a Grammy...a useless award. Seriously, I have nothing personal towards him and he's obviously done some wonderful work in his lifetime but in later years he has become more than erratic. Edited February 13, 2004 by DrJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 BENNY GOLSON - TAKE A NUMBER FROM 1 TO 10 Argo LP 681 - recorded December 1960 & April 1961 Who's on this one? Tough one to nail down there. So far all I come up with is Mike Fitzgerald's Jazztet discography, which states simply that "Curtis Fuller and Art Farmer play on parts of this Benny Golson album." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 BENNY GOLSON - TAKE A NUMBER FROM 1 TO 10 Argo LP 681 - recorded December 1960 & April 1961 Who's on this one? Tough one to nail down there. So far all I come up with is Mike Fitzgerald's Jazztet discography, which states simply that "Curtis Fuller and Art Farmer play on parts of this Benny Golson album." Time for you to buy a real discography. Enough getting by with the kindness of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 BENNY GOLSON - TAKE A NUMBER FROM 1 TO 10 Argo LP 681 - recorded December 1960 & April 1961 Who's on this one? Tough one to nail down there. So far all I come up with is Mike Fitzgerald's Jazztet discography, which states simply that "Curtis Fuller and Art Farmer play on parts of this Benny Golson album." Time for you to buy a real discography. Enough getting by with the kindness of others. Gee whiz, a hearty thanks! Looks like you've gone & broken your golden rule again! B) (Originally posted by Chuck Nessa, March 8): "I won't post, just to post. I need a topic or thread to respond to...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsj Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 As the self-proclaimed world's greatest Art Farmer fan (I once told him that one evening at The Vanguard in 1988 ... and he didn't disagree with me!), I am ecstatic to see that Mosaic will be doing a box on The Jazztet, et. al. I do wonder though why they chose to reissue some non-Jazztet things that have already been reissued, while ignoring others. For instance, "Listen to Art Farmer and the Orchestra" is available on a Verve CD, while "Brass Shout" is available only on a Japanese CD, and "Aztec Suite" has never been reissued. AND, one of the greatest of all modern jazz albums "MODERN ART" (I could listen to this album every day... Art's solos are unique compositions in themselves, and both Golson and Bill Evans are equallly superb) will not be part of the box, presumably because it is still very active in the current BN catalog. Being greedy, I would have preferred to have seen a separate Art Farmer/Golson United Artists Mosaic Select; then they could have included Milt Jackson's "Bags Opus" .. another great unsung album, which features Farmer and Golson ... making four great UA albums on two CDs ... Ah Well! I guess that we all have our own ideas about Mosaic should do things. I am just thankful that the Jazztet box will go a long way to replace my former LP collection of all of these sessions. I paid a small fortune for a Japanese pressing of the John Lewis Album several years ago; it and Big City Sounds are two seldom heard gems. I am already making up my Christmas list... Garth, Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJ Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 (Son-of-a-Weizen @ Feb 12 2004, 08:59 PM) BENNY GOLSON - TAKE A NUMBER FROM 1 TO 10 Argo LP 681 - recorded December 1960 & April 1961 Who's on this one? I can account for the musicians on the 7 tracks that were on the U.S. reissue I mentioned above. You probably know this, but to be sure - the premise of the album is that it begins with a lovely unaccompanied version of "You're My Thrill," and then with each of the successive tracks, additional instruments are added so that by the last track there is a septet. So thusly: Recorded Dec 13 & 14, 1960, Nola's Penthouse, NYC Produced by Jack Tracy Engineer: Tommy Nola 1. "You're My Thrill" Benny Golson - tenor sax 2. "My Heart Belongs to Daddy" as on Track 1 plus add Tommy Williams - bass 3. "The Best Thing for You Is Me" as on Track 2 plus add Tootie Heath - drums 4. "Impromptune" as on Track 3 plus add Cedar Walton 5. "Little Karin" as on Track 4 plus add Freddie Hubbard - trumpet 6. "Swing It" as on Track 5 plus add Curtis Fuller - trombone 7. "I Fall in Love too Easily" as on Track 6 plus add Sahib Shihab - baritone sax I'm curious to see who rounds out what I'm assuming will be octet, nonet, and then tentet configurations for the last 3 numbers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsj Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Someone asked about the personnel on the Golson "Take A Number From 1 To 10" album. This is a wonderful "concept" album in which Golson starts with a solo ""You're My Thrill" and then adds one additional musician all the way up to the final cut featuring a tentet on a Golson original "Time" (Art Farmer is the last musician added!). Others featured in order of addition are Tommy Williams on bass, Tootie Heath on drums, Cedar Walton, Freddie Hubbard, Curtis Fuller, Sahib Shihab; then an octet with Nick Travis, Bill Elton (tmb), Willie Ruff (fhr), Hal MsKusick (as), Sol Schlinger (bs), Tommy Williams, and Al Heath; Bernie Glow (tp) and Art Farmer are the last two additions. A great album, mixing standards and those exceptional Golson originals .... Now... tell me .. how cold you conceivably reissue this concept album, and then decide which cuts to eliminate .... number 3. or maybe 7, and just perhaps 5? .. Geez! I refused to purchase the chess reissue for this reason! Garth, Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJ Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 We must have posted at about the same time Garth! They basically just reissued the first 7 cuts...Keepnews must have something against octets, nonets, and tentets! About the content of the Mosaic - while I'd love to see the UA Farmer stuff you mention get issued by Mosaic, it wouldn't really fit the theme of the planned box which, as far as I can tell, just has labels represented that are currently held by Universal. What WOULD probably fit with Mosaic's modus would be a Mosaic Select of Farmer's UA stuff...if they could piece together enough material to make up 3 full CDs. Can it be done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsj Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Dr. J... that is essentially what I was suggesting. I agree though that there are only four obvious Farmer UA albums (if we include the Milt Jackson). However, they could have added the ABC album of Farmer with the Quincy Jones Orchestra .. and strings.. "Last Night When We Were Young" .. and Benny Golson's "The Philadelphians" (with Lee Morgan) .. that makes six LPs... and a very neat Mosiac Select... Geez! I should have accepted that job as the Verve reissue manager back in 1990! Garth, Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 What WOULD probably fit with Mosaic's modus would be a Mosaic Select of Farmer's UA stuff...if they could piece together enough material to make up 3 full CDs. Can it be done? Send them an email and ask! Would be a set to get for sure! I only know that one album with Bill Evans on piano, the one still available on Blue Note. Pretty good stuff! Tell us what they reply, and I might drop them a mail, too! ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed S Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 About the content of the Mosaic - while I'd love to see the UA Farmer stuff you mention get issued by Mosaic, it wouldn't really fit the theme of the planned box which, as far as I can tell, just has labels represented that are currently held by Universal. What WOULD probably fit with Mosaic's modus would be a Mosaic Select of Farmer's UA stuff...if they could piece together enough material to make up 3 full CDs. Can it be done? I'm not familiar with Farmer's UA stuff aside from Modern Art and don't know how much there is. But when Mosaic introduced the Select series, they did state that these sets would be 2 or 3 disc sets. So far, they've obviously stuck with the 3 disc releases - but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 I can hardly believe this set is coming. I am delighted!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 BENNY GOLSON - TAKE A NUMBER FROM 1 TO 10 Argo LP 681 - recorded December 1960 & April 1961 Who's on this one? Tough one to nail down there. So far all I come up with is Mike Fitzgerald's Jazztet discography, which states simply that "Curtis Fuller and Art Farmer play on parts of this Benny Golson album." Time for you to buy a real discography. Enough getting by with the kindness of others. You ain't kiddin'. Lord is out on CD-ROM, right? The School of Music library here has some great discographies, but these days I frequently find the need to have one at hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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