Miles Davis Bootleg Series Vol. 6

[Late]

5 hours ago, mikeweil said:

Jarrett surely wouldn't be delighted to hear them again.

But it's the only Jarrett I listen to! 

[felser]

58 minutes ago, bresna said:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/16/ec_copyright_term_extension/ 

As far as I can tell, Sony is issuing these Bob Dylan & Miles Davis recordings so that *they* retain the protections and to prevent Dylan & Davis' estate from profiting off of these works.

Beach Boys and Motown have also had releases which were explicitly made for copyright protection.  And that was the case for the 36-CD Dylan live 1966 set, which contained some of the most horrible sounding recordings ever (as well as some marvelous ones).

[mjzee]

If you read this carefully, it's obvious why Columbia would discontinue the Miles sets:

There are no immediate plans to end the Bootleg Series, but the steep decline in the market for physical product does put its future in some jeopardy. “We have to also see how long people keep buying these things,” says the source. “We’ll see what happens. Right now, there’s a certain amount of physical that still gets sold, so we’d like to keep doing them.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/bob-dylan-bootleg-series-johnny-cash-nashville-skyline-john-wesley-harding-886719/

[JSngry]

Some bootlegs were just born to be bootlegs.

[mikeweil]

4 hours ago, Late said:

But it's the only Jarrett I listen to! 

Me, too 

[J.A.W.]

7 hours ago, Late said:

But it's the only Jarrett I listen to! 

Same here

[felser]

9 hours ago, Late said:

But it's the only Jarrett I listen to! 

Try this one (on Columbia)

[JSngry]

That Burton & Jarrett record is a classic of sorts. It's a pop record, almost, and that's not a dis.

[jazzbo]

Yes, I love it, but there are dozens of Jarrett sessions I love.

[felser]

1 hour ago, jazzbo said:

Yes, I love it, but there are dozens of Jarrett sessions I love.

Me too, in several different styles.  The American Quartet, the European Quartet, the solo stuff, the long-running trio all have their merits, and are all very different from each other.

[Guy Berger]

On 10/23/2019 at 5:13 AM, mikeweil said:

Jarrett surely wouldn't be delighted to hear them again.

Jarrett seemed fairly upbeat about this music around the time of the Cellar Box release.  (In the liner notes?  I don't remember.)  He would obviously take potshots at it because he can't help himself, but maybe leavened with positive comments.

12 hours ago, JSngry said:

That Burton & Jarrett record is a classic of sorts. It's a pop record, almost, and that's not a dis.

IMHO, one of the best KJ albums on which Dewey Redman is not present

[jazzbo]

Pete Losin updated his website with a retraction:

Miles Davis Bootleg Series (October 2019)
Contrary to what I posted here several weeks ago, the Sony/Columbia Legacy Miles Davis Bootleg Series is still alive, although the production schedule has been slowed down. Beginning in 2011 and continuing until 2018, Sony USA released six volumes of live and studio recordings.

A seventh volume is in the works. Its release date has not been determined.

http://www.plosin.com/MilesAhead/mdNews.aspx

[erwbol]

Great news. Just skip that 80s shit, please. Not remotely interested.

[jazzbo]

That's probably next, so long wait for something else. But there's hope there will be more.

[jlhoots]

1 hour ago, jazzbo said:

That's probably next, so long wait for something else. But there's hope there will be more.

Is there a US source currently for the Rotterdam 1969 CD? Don't want to order from Barcelona.

[jazzbo]

amazon has it for about 20. . . .More expensive than Jazz Messengers.

[jlhoots]

1 hour ago, jazzbo said:

amazon has it for about 20. . . .More expensive than Jazz Messengers.

Just looked at Amazon - currently way more than $20 & crappy overseas options. Guess I'll just have to wait. My Barcelona shipping experience has been less than ideal, though I haven't tried in a while.

[jazzbo]

3 hours ago, jlhoots said:

Just looked at Amazon - currently way more than $20 & crappy overseas options. Guess I'll just have to wait. My Barcelona shipping experience has been less than ideal, though I haven't tried in a while.

Ouch! Sorry, a couple of weeks ago it was 15 and shipping at amazon. My experience with Jazz Messengers has been okay. Last time it even seemed as if the order came quicker than previously, though it's been over a year since I ordered last.

[erwbol]

I wasn't aware Rotterdam 1969 had been released. Just ordered from Jazz Messengers for €11.98.

Some of the tracks are extreme in length like the 25 minutes Sanctuary. Could it be the re-broadcast was the first set, since this is the second? Or was it edited? I will have to check my hard drive.

If they somehow used the original tapes for this Sony really fucked up. That's what you get for not releasing the best shit first. Someone else will beat you to it.

https://www.sleepynight-shop.com/product/coming-soon-miles-davis-the-lost-quintet

https://www.jazzmessengers.com/en/81976/miles-davis/the-lost-quintet-rotterdam-1969

https://www.amazon.com/Lost-Quintet-Miles-Davis/dp/B07SPFBKXR/ref=tmm_msc_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Edited November 2, 2019 by erwbol

[sidewinder]

I remember the BBC broadcasting that Rotterdam concert - from memory it was in very good sound. They broadcast about an hour of it.

[erwbol]

This is from the info file of the Dime torrent I am listening to now:

Set list (re-tracked times)
===============================
01 - Intro (00:51) stage announcer (Michiel de Ruyter) 
02 - Directions (09.54)
03 - Bitches Brew (19.27)
04 - Sanctuary (16.53)
05 - Masqualero (15.14)
06 - Outro (00:43) station announcer
-----------------------------------------
Total time: 63:04 min

Quite different times from the Amazon link above.

27 minutes ago, sidewinder said:

I remember the BBC broadcasting that Rotterdam concert - from memory it was in very good sound. They broadcast about an hour of it.

The digital broadcast was better than the FM.  From the info file:

I have had the opportunity to record broadcasts from FM and then the repeats from DAB.
Digital quality was substantially better than FM and with noticeable reduction of background FM
hiss and implusive noise that enable lower levels of musical detail and ambience to be heard. 

Edited November 2, 2019 by erwbol

[sidewinder]

Never heard the digital, my comment was about the FM broadcast.

[erwbol]

Rotterdam November 9, 1969. Final show of the tour.

Total playing time 58:11

1. Direction (7:18)
2. Bitches Brew (10:27)
3. Sanctuary (25:26)
4. Masqualero (14:59)

 

[erwbol]

There's a quick fade out fade in between tracks 2 and 3. Directions could be the same as the broadcast I posted above, which is still on Dimeadozen by the way. I don't feel like making a detailed comparison now.

Sound more than acceptable. There is a slight clicking sound audible now and then, varying in frequency, but next to Chick Corea's Fender Rhodes it is inconsequential IMO. And the music is spellbinding.

Only €9.90 at Jazz Messengers now. $11.99 at the record label's website.

 

[Harbour]

My copy turned up a couple of days, sounds fantastic to me, way better than I was expecting sound wise!