medjuck Posted April 22 Report Share Posted April 22 I've found a playlist on Spotify called "Lester Young Chronological solos:1936-1942". There are 200 entries including many (though not all) alternate takes and recorded broadcasts. There is one entry that is not listed in Frank Buchmann-Moller's Prez discography. It's from 1941 or '42: "Just a Little Bit South" and whoever compiled the playlist says it's by an "unknown band" (and singer). The tenor solo sure sounds like Prez of that era. Any one know about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 It's the Young Brothers band. Might even be Lester singing? The subject is mentioned in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted April 23 Report Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, JSngry said: It's the Young Brothers band. Might even be Lester singing? The subject is mentioned in here. definitely Lester singing; I've had that on CD for a long time. Certified by Loren Schoenberg who knows more about Prez than anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 (edited) [Y707]Add Lee Young Lee And Lester Young's Band : Red "Mack" Morris (tp) Bumps Myers (ts) Lester Young (ts,vcl) Jimmy Rowles (p) Louis Gonzales (g) Red Callender (b) Lee Young (d) prob."Club Capri", Hollywood, CA, prob c. February-July 1942 (Just a) Little bit south of North Carolina Prez Box (It)45/A, JUTB (It)CD-3019 [CD], Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD47 [CD], Sound Hills (Jap)SSCD-8035/50 [CD] Note: The above is a private recording. I have the recording (Prez Box, Vol. 1) - absolutely abysmal SQ but the tenor definitely sounds like Lester Edited April 25 by romualdo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 Verrrry interesting, haven't heard this one before! Familiar with the song only because of the Gene Krupa/Anita O'Day studio version from around the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 I've been fascinated by this material ever since the Masters of Jazz cd first came out. . . just wish we had this in excellent sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 https://www.discogs.com/release/3203384-Various-Historical-Prez-Lester-Young-1940-1944 Cheap copies ($2.99), exquisite music in not-bad sound. Lester's first band after leaving Basie, Young Brothers band plus some absolutely astonishing 1944 Basie airshots with Prez absolutely all-in. Highly recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 Good stuff. This Lester and Lee stuff is also on Masters of Jazz (Media 7) Lester Young Vol. 2 (1939-1942) which is surprisingly cheaper to get than I would have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 (edited) [Y706]Add Lee Young Lee And Lester Young's Band : Paul Campbell (tp) Bumps Myers, Lester Young (ts) Jimmy Rowles (p) Louis Gonzales (g) Red Callender (b) Lee Young (d) Broadcast "Billy Berg's Club Capri", Culver City, LA, December 2, 1941 Benny's bugle [untitled piece] Everybodys EV-3002, Rhino R2-75872 [CD] Skyline (theme) (incomplete) - Note: "Skyline" not listed on label or sleeve of Everybodys EV-3002. "Untitled piece" as "Benny's Bugle" on Everybodys EV-3002, Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD-47 [CD]. "Skyline" as "Sign Off" on Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD-47 [CD]. Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD-47 [CD] titled "Lester Young, Vol. 2, 1939-1942 - The Complementary Works"; see flwg sessions to June 1, 1942 for more titles; rest of CD by others. JUTB (Jazz Up Top Box)CD-3019 [CD] titled "Pres Box, Volume 1"; see flwg session for one more title; rest of CD by others. Sound Hills (Jap)SSCD-8035/50 [CD] titled "Lester Young - Live and Private Recordings in Chronological Order"; see flwg session for one more title; rest of this 16 CD set by Lester Young and others. Both above titles also on Pres Box (It)01/22, JUTB (It)CD-3019 [CD], Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD47 [CD], Sound Hills (Jap)SSCD-8035/50 [CD]. [Y707]Add Lee Young Lee And Lester Young's Band : Red "Mack" Morris (tp) Bumps Myers (ts) Lester Young (ts,vcl) Jimmy Rowles (p) Louis Gonzales (g) Red Callender (b) Lee Young (d) prob."Club Capri", Hollywood, CA, prob c. February-July 1942 (Just a) Little bit south of North Carolina Prez Box (It)45/A, JUTB (It)CD-3019 [CD], Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD47 [CD], Sound Hills (Jap)SSCD-8035/50 [CD] Note: The above is a private recording. [Y708]Add Lee Young Lee And Lester Young's Band : Red "Mack" Morris (tp) Bumps Myers, Lester Young (ts) Jimmy Rowles (p) Louis Gonzales (g) Red Callender (b) Lee Young (d) KHJ Radio broadcast "Trouville Club", Los Angeles, May 6, 1942 Frolic Sam (incomplete) (unissued) [Y709]Add Lee Young Lee And Lester Young's Band : Red "Mack" Morris (tp) Bumps Myers, Lester Young (ts) Jimmy Rowles (p) Louis Gonzales (g) Red Callender (b) Lee Young (d) Billie Holiday (vcl) The Spirits of Rhythm : Eddie Beal (p-1) Teddy Bunn (g-1,vcl) Leo Watson, Wilbur Daniels, Douglas Daniels (vcl) KHJ Radio broadcast "Trouville Club", Los Angeles, June 1, 1942 Broadway (incomplete) Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD99 [CD] I hear music (bh vcl) (F)MJCD102 [CD] Bo-go-Joe (incomplete) (tb,lw,wd,dd vcl,1) (unissued) Untitled piece Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD99 [CD] Note: "Untitled piece" based on "Benny's Bugle". Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD99 [CD] titled "Lester Young, Volume 6, 1944 - The Complementary Works"; see flwg session for more titles; rest of CD by others. Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD102 [CD] titled "Billie Holiday, Volume 11, 1941-1942"; see flwg session for one more title; rest of CD by others. [Y710]Add Lee Young Lee And Lester Young's Band : Red "Mack" Morris (tp) Bumps Myers, Lester Young (ts) Jimmy Rowles (p) Louis Gonzales (g) Red Callender, Lee Young (b) Billie Holiday (vcl) KHJ Radio broadcast "Trouville Club", Los Angeles, June 1, 1942 Untitled piece Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD99 [CD] Solitude (incomplete)(bh vcl) (F)MJCD102 [CD] Broadway (F)MJCD99 [CD] Lady be good (incomplete) - Note: "Untitled Piece" as "Benny's Bugle" on Masters of Jazz (F)MJCD-99 [CD]. Lester & Lee Young recordings 41-42 - This would have made an excellent Uptown release (if the source material was still in decent condition) plus an unreleased live session later in 42 [Y711]Add Lee Young Lee And Lester Young's Band : Paul Campbell (tp) Bumps Myers, Lester Young (ts) Sir Charles Thompson (p) Louis Gonzales (g) Red Callender (b) Lee Young (d) Live "Cafe Society Downtown", New York, c. October 1942 The great lie (unissued) Untitled piece - [B3511] Add Count Basie Edited April 26 by romualdo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 (edited) A note (just in case ...) to those wondering: I just checked the "Lestorian Notes" discography by Piet Koster and Harm Mobach that (on the face of it) is ultra-detailed. But no trace of that tune in the song title index. Yet the entry IS there. It is listed as "(Just a) Little Bit South of North Carolia" and therefore is filed under "L" and also marks the beginning of the 1942 entries in the actual discography. The LP on Everybody's 3002 is nice indeed. I picked up a copy last year when I had (more or less) first pick among a 5000-LP jazz collection our #1 record shop had gotten in. And yes, the 1944 recordings by the Basie band on that LP are fine. But "live 1944 Basie" (including Prez soloing) is exceedingly plentiful out there on various collector labels. So you can easily get drowned in the flood. Edited April 26 by Big Beat Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 Yeah, 44 Basie is "plentiful". But my interest is mostly Presz, and for me, the Everybody's record has the cream of the crop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Modal Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 9 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said: A note (just in case ...) to those wondering: I just checked the "Lestorian Notes" discography by Piet Koster and Harm Mobach that (on the face of it) is ultra-detailed. But no trace of that tune in the song title index. Yet the entry IS there. It is listed as "(Just a) Little Bit South of North Carolia" and therefore is filed under "L" and also marks the beginning of the 1942 entries in the actual discography. The LP on Everybody's 3002 is nice indeed. I picked up a copy last year when I had (more or less) first pick among a 5000-LP jazz collection our #1 record shop had gotten in. And yes, the 1944 recordings by the Basie band on that LP are fine. But "live 1944 Basie" (including Prez soloing) is exceedingly plentiful out there on various collector labels. So you can easily get drowned in the flood. As a native NC'er that title intrigues me quite a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted April 26 Author Report Share Posted April 26 OK (as is often the case) I was wrong. Buchnamm-Moller does list it. However in the index he just refers to it as "A Little Bit South of North Carolina". He confirms all of the above but adds that he got the info from Lee Young. BTW Does anyone have a source for a digital or cd version of the Everybody's Lp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 LP only afaik. It was a Jerry Valburn label, very hit and run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 All that material is out there on cd, for example on Masters of Jazz Lester Young and Basie cds, but I don't know of ONE cd that would have it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted April 27 Author Report Share Posted April 27 1 hour ago, jazzbo said: All that material is out there on cd, for example on Masters of Jazz Lester Young and Basie cds, but I don't know of ONE cd that would have it all. I think I have all the stuff with Basie. It's the Young brothers band material I'm looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 Then you want this one, which also has the great sessions with Nat King Cole and Una Mae Carlisle. https://www.discogs.com/release/14876055-Lester-Young-Volume-2-1939-1942-The-Complementary-Works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted April 27 Author Report Share Posted April 27 7 minutes ago, jazzbo said: Then you want this one, which also has the great sessions with Nat King Cole and Una Mae Carlisle. https://www.discogs.com/release/14876055-Lester-Young-Volume-2-1939-1942-The-Complementary-Works Thanks. Just ordered it. (I also don't have these versions of Taxi War Dance and Tickle-Toe (which apparently is really Willow Weep for Me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 It's a great volume in that series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 7 hours ago, medjuck said: Thanks. Just ordered it. (I also don't have these versions of Taxi War Dance and Tickle-Toe (which apparently is really Willow Weep for Me). It's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 On 4/25/2024 at 8:57 PM, JSngry said: https://www.discogs.com/release/3203384-Various-Historical-Prez-Lester-Young-1940-1944 Cheap copies ($2.99), exquisite music in not-bad sound. Lester's first band after leaving Basie, Young Brothers band plus some absolutely astonishing 1944 Basie airshots with Prez absolutely all-in. Highly recommended. I second this recommendation. There is some fabulous Pres here with Basie from 1944 that somehow did not make it to other releases that I know of, including the Prez's Hat series that focuses mostly on the 1944 broadcasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted April 27 Author Report Share Posted April 27 2 hours ago, JSngry said: It's not. My mistake. I should have said (according to my discography) it's Taxi War DAnce that's really Willow Weep for Me. But I better wait till I hear it to confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 It's not that either. Some people want to say that it is because of the descending chord section, but they are different tunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted April 27 Author Report Share Posted April 27 1 hour ago, JSngry said: It's not that either. Some people want to say that it is because of the descending chord section, but they are different tunes. Do you know what it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted Saturday at 05:47 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 05:47 PM It's an "original" A-section with the Willow bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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