Blue Note never-ever titles

[bertrand]

I posted this elsewhere:

Many years ago, I would call Blue Note asking about certain titles and if they would ever come out on CD. One was Wayne Shorter's Etcetera. The person said they had a list of titles that would NEVER come out on CD (Etcetera was not on it). That was mysterious to say the least. What was on the list? Maybe a bunch of titles from the George Butler era?

Are there any Blue Notes that have never been on CD in any country? I am sure there are some. I am referring to titles that did exist on LP, not unissued dates.

[JSngry]

Maybe Waters ?

Japan has cast a wide net. Very wide.

 

[felser]

This is the only one I can think of which I much care about.  There are also some other Butler-era albums which have not seen CD, I believe, but can't think of any others I care about:

https://www.discogs.com/master/888469-The-New-Heritage-Keyboard-Quartet-The-New-Heritage-Keyboard-Quartet

There are a couple of really good Jackie McLean sessions which came out in the 70's twofer series which I believe have only shown up on Mosaic's not on standalone CD's:

The April 12, 1966 session from this, only on the McLean Mosaic on CD:

https://www.discogs.com/master/114694-Jackie-McLean-Jacknife

The February 3, 1967 session from this, only on the Moncur Select on CD:

https://www.discogs.com/release/1251655-Jackie-McLean-Hipnosis

[JSngry]

Japan has been lazy!

Did the McLean Mosaic get to CD or was that too early for that?

What about the Dom Minasi and Moacir Santos records, then?

[bertrand]

Good point about the McLean. I need to decide where 'only in a Mosaic box' fits in.

[Eric]

3 hours ago, JSngry said:

What about the Dom Minasi and Moacir Santos records, then?

Have not thought about that one in a while!

[HutchFan]

3 hours ago, JSngry said:

What about the Dom Minasi and Moacir Santos records, then?

The Santos records have been reissued on CD in Japan.

 

5 hours ago, felser said:

The April 12, 1966 session from this, only on the McLean Mosaic on CD:

https://www.discogs.com/master/114694-Jackie-McLean-Jacknife

It's an excellent session too -- with Larry Willis!

 

[Kevin Bresnahan]

If there ever was such a list, it's ancient history at this point. They released Blakey's "Just Coolin'" on CD, so I would guess that everything is fair game now.

[John L]

I remember when we kept asking Michael Cuscuna about all of the unreleased Andrew Hill sessions in the vault.  He assured us that they would never see the light of day because Andrew Hill didn't want to release them.   Then one day Michael persuaded Andrew Hill to listen to the sessions again, and got Andrew to change his mind.  After that, it was all released, most of it on the Andrew Hill select.  

As for Blue Note sessions that have still not been released, I think that I number of them have been discussed here at length, including the Tyrone Washington "train wreck."

[jazzbo]

7 hours ago, JSngry said:

 

Did the McLean Mosaic get to CD or was that too early for that?

 

Yes, I have both LP and cd versions.

[felser]

7 hours ago, JSngry said:

Did the McLean Mosaic get to CD

Yes, I own it on CD.

I also own it, but have (except the one session I mention) and prefer the individual sessions on single CD's.

7 hours ago, JSngry said:

What about the Dom Minasi and Moacir Santos records, then?

I own the Japanese Santos CD's.  Discogs shows 2013 Japanese Minasi CD's.

Edited yesterday at 02:02 PM by felser

[bertrand]

1 hour ago, John L said:

I remember when we kept asking Michael Cuscuna about all of the unreleased Andrew Hill sessions in the vault.  He assured us that they would never see the light of day because Andrew Hill didn't want to release them.   Then one day Michael persuaded Andrew Hill to listen to the sessions again, and got Andrew to change his mind.  After that, it was all released, most of it on the Andrew Hill select.  

As for Blue Note sessions that have still not been released, I think that I number of them have been discussed here at length, including the Tyrone Washington "train wreck."

Yes, I am not asking about those. Only sessions that were released on LP but did not get a CD release anywhere, not even Japan or Mosaic.

I am sure Blue Note no longer uses that list but I am really curious what might have been on it.

Bertrand.

[Stonewall15]

Blue Note is not the only label not to release CDs of some of its LPs. Columbia (Sony) has yet to release two Dave  Brubeck LPs on CD- "Last Time We Saw Paris " and "Compadres".

[felser]

Mileston

43 minutes ago, Stonewall15 said:

Blue Note is not the only label not to release CDs of some of its LPs. Columbia (Sony) has yet to release two Dave  Brubeck LPs on CD- "Last Time We Saw Paris " and "Compadres".

Two great LP's that have mystifyingly never seen CD reissue:  Gary Bartz 'Home' on Milestone and Sonny Simmons 'Rumasuma' on Contemporary.

[jlhoots]

19 minutes ago, felser said:

Mileston

Two great LP's that have mystifyingly never seen CD reissue:  Gary Bartz 'Home' on Milestone and Sonny Simmons 'Rumasuma' on Contemporary.

Would buy Rumasuma on CD.

[JSngry]

Ok, so we are back to the NHKQ (which, if not great, is good enough) and this one, which I don't think anybody for is clamoring:

Are there any 78s that meet this criterion?

[adh1907]

Freddie Roach’s All That’s good has evaded most reissue programs over the years. There’s only one Japanese reissue I’m aware of but otherwise, nothing. It’s dreadful. But I’m open to offers!

[jazzbo]

10 minutes ago, adh1907 said:

Freddie Roach’s All That’s good has evaded most reissue programs over the years. There’s only one Japanese reissue I’m aware of but otherwise, nothing. It’s dreadful. But I’m open to offers!

Actually it was reissued in Japan on cd twice. I still have the second, SHM-CD reissue from 2014. I really like this session.

 

Edited yesterday at 10:16 PM by jazzbo

[adh1907]

Wow, two CD reissues. I’m happy to pass on my copy to anyone Uk based who may appreciate it more than me. 

[JSngry]

1 hour ago, JSngry said:

Ok, so we are back to the NHKQ (which, if not great, is good enough) and this one, which I don't think anybody for is clamoring:

Yeah, dampen the lead vocal, get another bit of lyrics, remix the whole thing, and you could maybe have a decent record.

Instead, it is what it is and nobody cares.

 

 

7 minutes ago, jazzbo said:

Actually it was reissued in Japan on cd twice. I still have the second, SHM-CD reissue from 2014. I really like this session.

 

That's a very good record, with liner notes to match!

That there is so deep in the pocket it's name could be Lint!!!

[felser]

I forgot these two: 

Kenny Burrell - Freedom.  Only released in Japan on LP, no CD release.

Blue Mitchell - Collision in Black, no CD release.

I'd buy these on CD.

Edited 19 hours ago by felser

[JSngry]

That Blue thing is...questionable. IMO. If there was such a list at one time, it should be on it.

Best paired with Bantu Village, (how was that one not on the list), the better to get the whole thing done with in one sitting.

My distaste for Monk Higgins is no secret, or shouldn't be. Not once have I heard anything to suggest that he was too much more than an opportunistic hack.

IMO.

[felser]

1 minute ago, JSngry said:

That Blue thing is...questionable. IMO. If there was such a list at one time, it should be on it.

Best paired with Bantu Village, (how was that one not on the list), the better to get the whole thing done with in one sitting.

My distaste for Monk Higgins is no secret, or shouldn't be. Not once have I heard anything to suggest that he was too much more than an opportunistic hack.

IMO.

Understood. But those are 1960's BN, so it's the collector/completist in me, rather than the music lover in me, that would buy it.  Someone else on the board said that the Burrell isn't so hot either, less than the sum its parts.

[JSngry]

Yeah, I fixed that by getting CDrs of the two Blue things. So I "have" them. Better to have than to be had!

Maybe "hack" is cruel, maybe he was simply a hard-working hustling brother who carpe-diemed. But good lord...enough of THAT shit...

[jazzbo]

6 hours ago, felser said:

 

Kenny Burrell - Freedom.  Only released in Japan on LP, no CD release.

 

"Freedom" was issued twice on LP in Japan and once on LP in America (2011, Music Matters). I like it myself--it's better than many Burrell dates that followed.

Edited 13 hours ago by jazzbo