Dan Gould Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Of his later period, what can someone suggest as a purchase? I see his lps in the bends all the time but the covers scare me away! If you only want "great" albums in your collection, don't bother. If you don't mind forking out small beer for an album that's merely enjoyable, and honest though commercial, pick up "Everybody come on out" or "Use the stairs" both on Fantasy LPs which I'm sure you can find cheap, or "More than a mood" (Music Masters), which is straight ahead stuff with Freddie Hubbard (and that one's deleted, too). MG I'm going to guess that MG is simply unaware of the Concord release Gene Harris Trio + 1. Its a tremendous reunion of the principals from Blue Hour and no one can accuse it of being "snoozy" - its a rip-snorting barn-burner of a set with Stan and Gene (and Ray Brown) ripping up three blues plus "Battle Hymn" and a ballad. An all-time favorite of the former GHF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Of his later period, what can someone suggest as a purchase? I see his lps in the bends all the time but the covers scare me away! If you only want "great" albums in your collection, don't bother. If you don't mind forking out small beer for an album that's merely enjoyable, and honest though commercial, pick up "Everybody come on out" or "Use the stairs" both on Fantasy LPs which I'm sure you can find cheap, or "More than a mood" (Music Masters), which is straight ahead stuff with Freddie Hubbard (and that one's deleted, too). MG I'm going to guess that MG is simply unaware of the Concord release Gene Harris Trio + 1. Its a tremendous reunion of the principals from Blue Hour and no one can accuse it of being "snoozy" - its a rip-snorting barn-burner of a set with Stan and Gene (and Ray Brown) ripping up three blues plus "Battle Hymn" and a ballad. An all-time favorite of the former GHF. I definitely second the recommendation, a KILLER set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Of his later period, what can someone suggest as a purchase? I see his lps in the bends all the time but the covers scare me away! If you only want "great" albums in your collection, don't bother. If you don't mind forking out small beer for an album that's merely enjoyable, and honest though commercial, pick up "Everybody come on out" or "Use the stairs" both on Fantasy LPs which I'm sure you can find cheap, or "More than a mood" (Music Masters), which is straight ahead stuff with Freddie Hubbard (and that one's deleted, too). MG I'm going to guess that MG is simply unaware of the Concord release Gene Harris Trio + 1. Its a tremendous reunion of the principals from Blue Hour and no one can accuse it of being "snoozy" - its a rip-snorting barn-burner of a set with Stan and Gene (and Ray Brown) ripping up three blues plus "Battle Hymn" and a ballad. An all-time favorite of the former GHF. You're right. I have tended to ignore Gene Harris until reading all the stuff you've been saying about him. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six string Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Of his later period, what can someone suggest as a purchase? I see his lps in the bends all the time but the covers scare me away! If you only want "great" albums in your collection, don't bother. If you don't mind forking out small beer for an album that's merely enjoyable, and honest though commercial, pick up "Everybody come on out" or "Use the stairs" both on Fantasy LPs which I'm sure you can find cheap, or "More than a mood" (Music Masters), which is straight ahead stuff with Freddie Hubbard (and that one's deleted, too). MG Thanks. I think I just saw Use the Stairs the other day. Now if I can just remember which store it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montg Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 (edited) I recall a letter to down beat magazine years ago which called Cootie Williams "the Roberto Clemente of the trumpet." I was at Three Rivers Stadium the day Clemente got his 3,000th hit. Growing up in the Pittsburgh area in the 70s, I was amazed many years later, after becoming a jazz fan, how many great jazz artists were from Pittsburgh..the only Pittsburgh musician I ever heard about while growing up was donnie iris, blue collar rock, if you know what I mean. Anyway I say all that to say this: Turrentine's tone just knocks me out, and it somehow manages to take me back to those Pittsburgh days of my childhood. His sax tone is Soulful and Deep, (those words don't really describe it well, but that's the best I can do). I think Jubilee Shout (on the Mosaic set) is my favorite Turrentine session. Edited November 30, 2007 by montg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 (edited) The only time I saw ST live was a a small benefit concert just a few weeks before he died. He was wonderful playing "In a Sentimental Mood". Edited November 30, 2007 by marcello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 (edited) I own all the BN Turrentines, save Dearly Beloved which I don't think I've actually seen for sale anywhere. I think that says how much I like Stan. Much like Grant Green all he needs is a good melody to sound great. Love the way he plays Gershwin, and Jobim, and Bacharach...the stuff on Impulse and Atlantic under Shirley's name is pretty great too. "Think", baby! Edited December 1, 2007 by danasgoodstuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 (edited) I own all the BN Turrentines, save Dearly Beloved which I don't think I've actually seen for sale anywhere. I saw an original vinyl of this in London a couple of weeks ago for £15 ! Badly scratched though, unfortunately. Sleeve was pretty nice. First one I've ever seen in the shops too. Edited December 1, 2007 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 (edited) I own all the BN Turrentines, save Dearly Beloved which I don't think I've actually seen for sale anywhere. I saw an original vinyl of this in London a couple of weeks ago for £15 ! Badly scratched though, unfortunately. Sleeve was pretty nice. First one I've ever seen in the shops too. I've had two copies new and they've both been duff. I have a TOCJ now though, so I'm happy. MG PS - meant to say that it's one of the most interesting of their albums - the only one where Shirley has no bass player. And yes, she can play the pedals! And "Think" is a blinder!!!! Edited December 1, 2007 by The Magnificent Goldberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyo Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 Thanks for the Gene Harris Trio +1 recommendation, I somehow overlooked that one until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Play some ST today!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 I played this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertoart Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 I played this: That looks a bit Blue-Violet to me. Must be my screen. Been listening to 'Sugar' lately. I enjoy hearing the repertoire and style of music that would have fitted well on early to mid 60's Blue Note and Prestige played in the CTI era. I know others don't. Think it adds a bit of early Seventies urban hard-edge to the presentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Downloaded the Steely Turpentine Mosaic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Urban hard edge? More like Californian soft porn, really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 I own all the BN Turrentines, save Dearly Beloved which I don't think I've actually seen for sale anywhere. I think that says how much I like Stan. Much like Grant Green all he needs is a good melody to sound great. Love the way he plays Gershwin, and Jobim, and Bacharach...the stuff on Impulse and Atlantic under Shirley's name is pretty great too. "Think", baby! Since I wrote this I've got Dearly Beloved on CD - first side of the LP, brilliant, 2nd side, merely good. Programming as much as, if not more than, the playing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Am I right that one of the new Japanese LTs is new to CD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six string Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 (edited) another favourite: I found a BN Liberty pressing of this a couple of weeks ago in very nice shape along with In Memory Of, part of the LT "rainbow" series from Blue Note. I can understand some of the criticism directed towards ST but here's the thing. Stanley Turrentine played with a lot of soul and some people like that in their jazz and some people don't. He doesn't sound like Sonny Rollins or Coleman Hawkins or Lester Young, ad nauseum. That's a good thing. If a person doesn't like that soulfull grit that Stanley brought to his music or lament that he never recorded his own Body And Soul or Giant Steps, well we can't all be geniuses but that doesn't take away what he did do and that is to make a lot of great sounding records. Did he strike out a couple of times? Sure he did but how many people have never struck out at the plate? Edited June 27, 2012 by six string Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Am I right that one of the new Japanese LTs is new to CD? I am pretty sure all the stuff by ST has made it to US cds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) I can understand some of the criticism directed towards ST but here's the thing. Stanley Turrentine played with a lot of soul and some people like that in their jazz and some people don't. He doesn't sound like Sonny Rollins or Coleman Hawkins or Lester Young, ad nauseum. That's a good thing. If a person doesn't like that soulfull grit that Stanley brought to his music or lament that he never recorded his own Body And Soul or Giant Steps, well we can't all be geniuses but that doesn't take away what he did do and that is to make a lot of great sounding records. Did he strike out a couple of times? Sure he did but how many people have never struck out at the plate? Stanley's batting average was damn impressive all through the 1960s, there are MANY more albums that I enjoy than not. I just love his sound, I can listen to him no matter what mood I'm in and it always hits home. The "soul" in his sound is one of the reasons I return so frequently to his work, it just clicks with me completely. I would say the same thing about Blue Mitchell, Grant Green, Donald Byrd, John Patton (and others)...all players that I never tire of. Edited June 28, 2012 by Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertoart Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) Urban hard edge? More like Californian soft porn, really I disagree. There is a harder funk (for want of a better term) influence on some of these sessions that isn't there on the earlier recordings of some CTI artists on other labels. Benson's presence on many of these albums contributes to this. Some of the Johnny Hammond Smith and Benson's Beyond The Blue Horizon have this quality as well. A lot of these albums document the transition from 'grease to funk' and are more than worthy albums. Later on - badly conceived 'productions' like Grant Green's Kudo's album fit your flippant description, but far from all. Edited June 28, 2012 by freelancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Turrentine had that flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 i wonder where the master tapes to FLIPPED OUT (Trip) are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertoart Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) Black Lassie And some very interesting and edgy guitar from Eric Gale. CTI. Edited June 28, 2012 by freelancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Am I right that one of the new Japanese LTs is new to CD? I am pretty sure all the stuff by ST has made it to US cds. I took another look, and Ain't No Way, a quartet with Tyner, is the one I can't pin down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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