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2015 NEA Jazz Masters announced

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Yes Stanley Cowell is a high quality piano player.

He has a good CD out on the Venus label as follows.

Stanley Cowell Trio - Dancers In Love

withTaurus Mateen,bass & Nasheet Waits, drums

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I really enjoyed Cowell with Art Pepper in those live recordings on Galaxy.

Met him in the mid '70s and liked him a bunch. We both suffered the same skin condition.

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Unless I overlooked them in the long list of past honorees, some notable names I'd surely include as "Jazz Masters" would be:

Gerald Wilson

Dick Hyman

Bob Wilber

Mark Murphy

Sir Charles Thompson

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Gerald Wilson, amen!!

He was a NEA Jazz Master in 1990.

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I'm not the greatest fan of his music, but the absence of Gary Burton is a puzzler. He's been prominent for a LONG time, no? And at times he's been something of a style setter, too.

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It would be interesting to see a list of all winners, since offhand I have little idea.

I get the impression that you don't win until you are ancient. I mean, everyone in the new class was born in the 1930s.

Have relative youngsters like Joe Lovano and Pat Metheny gotten it, or on the verge?

Jump up

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the Jamey Aebersold choice is silly beyond belief. The Lorraine Gordon one is....bizarre. Of course, the Marsalis Family needs the money.

In this spirit I nominate The Osmonds.

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actually a better choice than some. Good solid Broadway arranger.

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actually a better choice than some. Good solid Broadway arranger.

So the f--- what?!! At least Elliot Lawrence, also a Broadway mainstay, led a good jazz band at one time.

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Seriously, Mike Wofford -- lots of fine, quite individual playing over the years, albeit in later years away from major jazz centers

With some question marks: Gary Peacock, Barbara Carroll. The latter more into cabaret in later years but a notable player for a good while; the former ... early on, yes; later on, it's up to you.

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actually I wasn't damning with faint praise; Henderson did great work on shows like Ain't Misbehavin, which was way above the usual; more than a craftsman. And had a very interesting career.

and Barbara Carroll is a great pianist; there is a Bluenote LP she did (late 70s? Early 80s?) which showed how well she could still play and how well she had kept up with harmonic developments.

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Ira Sullivan would be a fine choice.

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actually I wasn't damning with faint praise; Henderson did great work on shows like Ain't Misbehavin, which was way above the usual; more than a craftsman. And had a very interesting career.

OK, but a JAZZ master? If, say, Billy Byers were still with us, would he be one? And I'm pretty sure that Byers' jazz credentials were more substantial than Henderson's.

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George Cables who is a wonderful pianist, and has played and recorded regularly with Art Pepper, Dexter Gordon, and countless other top level jazz players.

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George Cables who is a wonderful pianist, and has played and recorded regularly with Art Pepper, Dexter Gordon, and countless other top level jazz players.

I wholeheartedly agree. We can also copy this post into the 'Nice Guy Musicians' thread. :tup

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Pharoah Sanders, Joe Chambers, Reggie Workman, Cecil McBee, Joe McPhee, Don Moye, Billy Harper.

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George Cables who is a wonderful pianist, and has played and recorded regularly with Art Pepper, Dexter Gordon, and countless other top level jazz players.

I wholeheartedly agree. We can also copy this post into the 'Nice Guy Musicians' thread. :tup

Just for the record, I "nominated" George in both threads!!! He's most deserving!

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Tox Drohar

Indeed - from Peter Ind and Lee Konitz to Charlie Nothing...

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Larry, I wasn't seriously suggesting Henderson; I was only responding to your response to my response that he was a very good B'way arranger; you seemed to think that I was putting him down for being that.

on the other hand, he makes as much sense as Charles Lloyd.

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Larry, I wasn't seriously suggesting Henderson; I was only responding to your response to my response that he was a very good B'way arranger; you seemed to think that I was putting him down for being that.

on the other hand, he makes as much sense as Charles Lloyd.

No, I was (kind of) putting him down for that -- in the sense that if that was his chief claim to fame (aside from orchestrating some things for Ellington), then why was he named a jazz master?

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