medjuck Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 With the NYT/Steve Coleman thread veering into a discussion of Byas I thought this might be of interest to board members: http://nepr.net/music/2015/04/28/duke-ellington-welcomes-don-byas-and-archie-shepp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 whoa... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat5 Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 Too bad he did not have his horn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 I recall seeing a photograph in Down Beat years ago of Archie Shepp sitting in with the Ellington band. Always wondered what the story was behind that. I had no idea that Don Byas was also involved. Thanks for posting the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 What an interesting mess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 I've got an Affinity LP by Duke Ellington entitled Paris Jazz Party. I know Don Byas is on it, but didn't remember Archie Shepp. I'll have to go downstairs to take a look and listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Shepp's solo on "C Jam Blues" definitely made me smile. Would've been fun to witness the whole concert, even with a messy "Divertimento and Crescendo." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 shepp and byas sit in on only 2 tunes on this concert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caravan Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 shepp and byas sit in on only 2 tunes on this concert. One tune each that is, not together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 When Byas comes back in after Tunney (and hey holyshit Norris TUNNEY ok?). at first it ounds like he's just drunk and out of the time, and I've no doubt that he's not drunk, but the way his notes move across the time create a not-unconvincing suggesting that he's playng exactly what he's hearing, and that what he's hearing is a line of pretty advanced harmonic extrapolations. And his time, not his attack, but his time, kinda weirdly reminds me of Hank, who if my memory serves was along with these two on the midnigh (and beyond) creep...would it have been possible for Hank to have shown up here along with Byas & Shepp (possible as in is this gig from when they had that hang)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnblitweiler Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Yes, Hank was (as he put it) helping Shepp and Byas get Gonsalves back to the band on time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 And Byas baked a cake int he morning! One of the most memorable images I have, for whatever reason. I pretty much have this article memorized...not in sequence, but in content. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 JSngry: Great reading. I heard about that John Litweiler DB article and Hank´s impressions about Paris, with Archie Shepp and Don Byas. Please, can you post the rest of the article ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 With pleasure. And thanks again to John Litweiler for writing one of, imo, the most important - and readable - pieces that down beat ever published. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Thank you so much ! Great reading. Well, I think 1973 was quite a rough period for acoustic jazz. I think, Mr. Mobley suffered very much from the loss of interest in what he was doing, what he had planned to do in future. And even in the late 70´s with all that bop revival that I witnessed, it seems there was no place for Hank. I think, Hank and Archie Shepp were quite close, even if they had different conceptions about music. And later, when all people started to re-consider straight ahead stuff, Archie played A-Train, Sophisticated Lady and much Ellington-compositions.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Reynolds Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 As good as it gets Thanks for posting this Thanks, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 not to sidetrack, but i find this guest appearance fascinating Miles Davis sits in for one tune at a B.B. King concert, Barcelona 11-13-73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnblitweiler Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Jim, thank you for posting that article. My DB copy of that was among the stuff that vanished after the fire, and now I have a copy again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 what a wonderful article - great read!! I presume that soundtrack to a movie (French-Algerian War) he recorded for Blue Note has never been released Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I guarantee Archie whispered his name in Duke's ear at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Mobley and Muhal? Wow. Great piece, John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bopandbeyond Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I've always heard a lot of Byas in Hank's playing, would've loved to hear them jam together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnblitweiler Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 But a few years ago Muhal told me that Hank never actually produced those arrangements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) not to sidetrack, but i find this guest appearance fascinating Miles Davis sits in for one tune at a B.B. King concert, Barcelona 11-13-73 Miles also plays with john Lee Hooker on the soundtrack to the film The Hot Spot. Edited May 7, 2015 by medjuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Mobley and Muhal? Wow. Great piece, John. I did see the Mobley group with Muhal at a south side church if I remember correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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