AllenLowe

c'mon now, it's been clear since about 1980 that Sonny does not listen to anything going on around him - or he'd have had a nervous breakdown years ago - come back lubbee and help me out here - I'm s i n k i n g

"how did this thread turn into an "Allen Lowe" thread? No disrespect, but you've turned a discussion about Lou Donaldson's Hot Dog, an album and artist you don't dig,... into an ongoing conversation with yourself about yourself." it's my favorite subject - also, helps me forget about Hot Dog which I listened to once and which has led to a recurring nightmare: I'm being chased by several white nuns with Afros carrying copies of Ann Coulter's latest book and an autographed copy of the album Hot Dog, and they are screaming: "one of Gould's", "one of Gould's" over and over - and than one of the nun's pulls out a Star of David and says: "Now I am married to Berigan. Now I am married to Berigan." I have no idea what this dream means, but I wish it would stop as I'm tired of wetting my bed in fear -

hey, who's this lubbee guy? good post; he speaks the TRUTH - except for that Phil Woods stuff -

funny, but I agree with Crow and Larry, yet have heard some of Scott's playing that went beyond that and that showed, when he wanted to, he could be quite a player -

scott was an interesting guy - even in some early 1950s work, he sounds like he's trying to wriggle outside of the harmony - one of the earliest "outside" players -

Papa Charlie Jackson caused me to buy a six-string banjo -

well, sometimes it is true that if you don't do a lot of something you may have trouble doing it when you have to - I find that, for example, if I don't play alot of chord change gigs, I get on one, and it takes me a little while to think in that particular way - however, this was a real weird experience; maybe not characteristic; on the other hand, it just may be a problem that remains un-resolved -

not Baron - whom I've heard play straight time more than once - please, let's correct this - I will give two hints: 1) it's not Margaux and 2)it's not Ernest

well, everything has finally gone out, thanks for the orders, sorry for the slowness in shipping - I have two more sets just arrived yesterday - basically this stuff is all from a batch of promos that the distributor prepared and never sent out, so I get a real low price - absolutely mint and complete - email me at alowe5@maine.rr.com, which is my paypal - $125 plus shipping - as Berigan says, 10,000 pedophile judges can't be wrong -

"This thread proves Zorn's point. " well as the saying goes, he may have one, but if he wears a hat no one will notice -

I believe you - but this other guy, who was already starting to make his name in the new music field, worked with a friend of mine on a straight-ahead gig in the middle 1980s; it was torture for the rest of the rhythm section; kept turning the time around - 4 was 1 (he shoulda been playing with Brubeck; nobody would have noticed ) - I've never been one to advocate that a musician playing in one style needs to be able to play in another - or that a painter has to be able to do representational work before he does otherwise - but even I can count 1-2-3-4,and this guy had NO idea he was even lost - that's a problem -

"Well, Sunny Murray couldn't play time " I don't know about Sonny, but I once got a bunch of people pissed off at me on this board for pointing out a different free drummer who I'd heard trying to play straight four but failing - and this bothered me no end and still bothers me 25 years later - it does show some fundamental issue - and I will not name names this time - but I might give a few hints -

funny because on my computer real player works great and windows media screws up constantly-

bravo, CHris - you nailed it - I started to read it and about 100 pages through I just got so annoyed I put it under my bed - may still be there -

by the way, Chris is right about Sherry Tucker's book - could have been a valuable part of the literature but collapses under the weight of her ideology - like at one point telling us that Billie Holiday's admiration of the Whiteman band (with whom she recorded on the West Coast) showed that she was ashamed of her blackness -

I've been told that Eddie Durham led an all-female band at one point - don't know exactly when - there was also an all-tranvestite band that worked New York for a few years - men dressed as women - apparently Elliot Spitzer used to blow a few horns in that one -

agreed - but I (like, I believe, Larry) think it is always best to be out front about what has actually happened. Incidentally, I lived in New Haven for about 20 years and worked for some time with an excellent pianist name Mark Berman, whose father was called Sonny Berman - I never made the connection (no pun intended) originally, but it turned out he was trumpeter Sonny Berman's cousin and he told me once that it was a hard-luck family with more than one tragedy, including another family member who was somehow killed after jumping off a high diving board (water may have been too shallow, I don't quite remember) - nice family, and Mark (with whom I've lost touch but who, I believe, plays the piano on the Sex in the City Theme) was a great musician -

jeez, all this sex and drugs talk on Organissimo - can't we remember her for her artistry?

well, truth is truth, though I do agree about the music coming first - but I have my doubts about that story -

"basically is putting your critical judgments ahead of everyone else's." how is he putting his judgments ahead of others? Is Larry demanding that we all stop listening to Hamilton or that he be arrested or his recordings confiscated?- no - so in an ironic way, Dan, by making an accusation that implies that Larry has no right to his opinion, is doing exactly what he accuses Larry of doing -

I wouldn't call it gimmicky - just too much of an (almost) good thing - I used to know an alto player like that (actually fairly well known, but I don't want to get anybody else made at me right now; I need a rest) - played a great solo for the first 2 minutes, than started to go faster and faster, more chords more notes more scales more intervals more more more more more- as though building a solo meant getting faster and faster and faster and faster and faster - I found it exhausting to play with AND listen to the guy. He could play rings around me but he lacked taste. Anderson is a good player, but gives me similar problems -

I think we should share Clementine's copy -

why do I get nervous whenever I appear to be the most conciliatory person in the room?

"I think this strikes at the heart of the meaning of artistic criticism. Are you asking for some unassailable ranking where you judge how people stack up? And who judges the judges." 1) critics, it is true, don't require licensing (though I think Larry has gotten his shots) - we judge them on their own merits, sometimes on credentials (and credentials can just be prior work) - but any good critic - or really great critic - in my experience, offers as much insight in his criticism as that which he is criticizing - for me Larry fits the bill. Maybe not for you. But that's ok - 2) we judge the judges right here - no need to say - "well that's only your opinion" because nobody, unless they specificially claim otherewise, is saying anything else (though I do claim to represent all white Jewish Males over the age of 50 who refuse to take their meds, are personally tired of their jobs, long for a good vacation, and who live in the past) -

"People who enjoy a lively disagreement are all assumed drunk until proven otherwise" words to live by -