Ron S

Jim, be sure those are added to the press kits--at least the ones I get.

Not as ugly as the mess in which Sony/BMG now finds itself.

Then it's time to run for the sub-basement (when the basement alone isn't enough).

Also, on the back of the jewel case, next to the FBI seal and warning, is a box that says "Compatible With" and lists various operating systems, ripping software, and portable devices, says "Limited Copies," and refers questions to the web site "cp.sonybmg.com/xcp." Additionally, the label on the disc itself bears this copy control logo: and the words: which undoudtedly are words Sony/BMG now wishes it had never seen nor heard.

Doesn't matter. First off, it's now the same entity (SonyBMG). But even if it weren't, Sony will exhcange any defective disc on its labels (even those without CP) regardless of whether it was marketed through a BMG Direct club. The link I gave in my post above is only for the CP exchange program and so would only cover the Brookmeyer disc. But if you'll look in the upper right corner of page 14 of the Shaw booklet, you'll find an 800 number for Sony's Quality Management Department, and if you call them they'll exchange the Shaw disc for you (and pay for return postage). That number is printed inside every Sony release, and it works (I've done it). Just be prepared when you call them to tell them where on the disc (track # and time) the defect appears. Of course, you could also just exchange the Shaw disc through yourmusic.com, but you can't exchange the Brookmeyer there--at least for now--since they've deleted all the Sony CP titles.

Lon, whatever you do, don't send the Brookmeyer back to yourmusic.com--they're not currently stocking it because of the CP issue, and you'll only get a refund. Instead, send it to Sony's CP exchange program at Sony's expense here, and get a brand-new one without CP.

Nothing that bad (unless I just haven't realized it yet). It may have cost us a review, that's all. No biggie. FUCK 'em. You don't need 'em. I say we should show respect to all the labels. I don't think it's fair that O's future gets compromised by comments on the bulletin board. Can't there be a disclaimer where the band points out that opinions expressed on the BB don't necessarily reflect the band's views? My point is that any label or publication/website (and Jim referred to a potentially lost review, not recording contract) that doesn't already realize that, is going to be trouble sooner or later anyway. It's clear that what the band is trying to provide here is a free and open forum--within reasonable limits, of course--and any label that doesn't understand and respect that is probably one they wouldn't want to be involved with. At least that's my understanding of Jim, Joe, and Randy from their comments I've read here.

Glad to hear that, since I also just got it from BMG (well, yourmusic.com), and it's currently sitting in my to-be-played stack.

You sing too, Sangry?? Who knew!! Certainly no one who's actually heard him.

So what did you buy with your quarter?

Am I missing something? Aren't these going to be regular retail reissues? That was my impression. But he should buy a burner anyway. So he can burn copies of everything in his collection for the rest of us?

Nothing that bad (unless I just haven't realized it yet). It may have cost us a review, that's all. No biggie. FUCK 'em. You don't need 'em. That's it Ron, keep on digging. Just gettin' started:

Nothing that bad (unless I just haven't realized it yet). It may have cost us a review, that's all. No biggie. FUCK 'em. You don't need 'em.

I can attest to the fact that I have personally experienced chatting with Randy, and chatting with him for a few minutes at a time is actually tolerable.

Why don't you just make it flash rapidly back and forth between them like your avatar, and see how long you can handle THAT.

I thought he comes from the Netherlands. *please note--this is intended only as a self-deprecating joke, and not as a commentary on either Hans or the Netherlands What ever. I'm offended whatever your intent is. I may not have enough of me, but I've had enough of you. Kidding... TOO LATE! That's the last time I go to a guitar show with YOU! (Oh, I forgot--we didn't go. )

I thought he comes from the Netherlands. *please note--this is intended only as a self-deprecating joke, and not as a commentary on either Hans or the Netherlands

How come my box came with only EIGHT discs???

REAL men go with BLUE. (Sorry, but it had to be said.)

Dude, that's not a very well-rounded meal. You gotta at least try to fit one of these in there, somewhere: Happy Thanksgiving to all, and thanks especially to our Three Musketeers for makin' such great music (even if not in Philly--yet) and for keepin' this Board goin'.

That's a very existential question... That's just what I ask myself every day! Maybe we should open a separate Existentialist chat room. Problem is, once you went in, there'd be no exit.

I know this has been brought to the attention of Jim and Greg before, but Alan Lankin's Jazzmatazz site has a page devoted to upcoming Philly jazz concerts and shows. If you scroll to the bottom of the page, there is a list of several venues that regularly present jazz: Jazzmatazz Philly Jazz Page (Note that this list is not entirely complete--e.g., it doesn't include the soon-to-be-opened Ron's Jazz Club, which is awaiting funding from certain well-heeled Michigan investors).

Cape May is a WONDERFUL town--beautiful historic Victorian resort on the southern end of the New Jersey coast. It's quite charming, and just ITCHIN' to get some funk and greaze goin' on--and it's only an hour and a half from Philly! Great recommendation, Chris.

If you lived in New Jersey, you, too, would spend all of your time in a virtual world.

But in the end, isn't each of us really only in his/her own individual room by him/herself? (Jim, please open a Philosophy forum so I can start an Existentialism thread.)