David Ayers

Hm. Well I *may* go for it - and in any case modern remasterings don't generally find much favor with me either...

It is outstanding. Great performances though the live recorded sound is 'of its time', so to speak. Evan Parker is cited as calling it the best Tubbs he ever heard. He rests my case. Thanks. How 'bout the Harriott - Live at Harry's 1963, also on Tony Levin's label? I don't have that one...

It is outstanding. Great performances though the live recorded sound is 'of its time', so to speak. Evan Parker is cited as calling it the best Tubbs he ever heard. He rests my case.

Thanks for the input so far, guys. My point is that I am used to the albums as issued on vinyl so at the right price this set would work for me as being easier to navigate than the chronological set which I never purchased. That said, reports of the mastering and artwork issues are putting me off...

While we are on the subject of Tempo, has anyone sampled any of the recent Tempo/Sawano (Japanese) vinyls? They seem to be a bit on the pricey side but look tempting...

I have this all on vinyl, some of which is a little worn... so... I thought maybe I'd get the 14 CD set... can anyone confirm which masterings were used? and... do they really have those OJC logos on the covers?? (yeah it's all about the music etc., but aesthetics of presentation are important too...)

Sounds like you have all you need. You'd kick yourself if you bought it for the other stuff. Yeah, I guess I'd rather look for the Fresh Sound disc by the Couriers eventually. Though I don't have the Kinsey and London Jazz Quartet albums... how are those? I guess this is all more on the conventional side (rather like the Proper, not like Tubbs' Fontana albums from later on)? The Kinsey and London Jazz Quartet sides are really for completists only. As I was saying above, they were made as mood music and used as background when BBC TV was airing the test card. So while there are nice touches here and there these are pretty much for historical interest only, unless you are fanatical about the history of light music, in which case - dive right in!

Sounds like you have all you need. You'd kick yourself if you bought it for the other stuff.

Do you know if there's any overlap with the Proper box? gregmo There are two tracks in common, the 1956 'Jazz At The Flamingo' tracks. Otherwise no overlap, as far as I can see. FWIW, the Tony Kinsey Ember album and TAP28 which was under Crombie's leadership are said by the liner-writer to have been made as mood music and to be deliberately 'underplayed'. Older British listeners may even feel that they subliminally recall this music as it was used for test-card accompaniment on TV, back in the back of beyondness. Those sides are pretty muted and, while I hesitate to suggest it in a completist's heaven such as this, are maybe not a priority, though there are deft contributions by Tubbs (and by Deuchar on the Kinsey) which bring a bit of life to one or two of the tracks from those two LPs. I won't be going back to them often, I suspect. The two Jazz Couriers LPs (TAP 15 and TAP 22) are of course very good, so the set is a curate's egg and the transfers are pretty basic.

Yes - thanks for the review, which I just read. I was so busy answering the question about Bishop's Move that I missed it first time round. Glad to hear they found common ground - not surprised though.

This set is out now. I don't know what has previously been issued, but it doesn't overlap with any Tubbs which I currently have access to. I'll admit that I've got no real grasp of the Tubby discography, but anyway the contents are: Tubby Hayes and the Jazz Couriers feat. Ronnie Scott Tempo TAP 15 An Evening with Tony Kinsey Ember EMB 3337 The Jazz Couriers in Concert Tempo TAP 22 London Jazz Quartet Tempo TAP 28 plus two tracks each from Tony Crombie/Ronnie Scott Jazz At The Flamingo Ember EMB 3337 [?? same as above ??] Tony Crombie and His Men [one track Coumbia 33SX1119, other unreleased (??)] Does that help?

A welcome return for an LP that seemed a thing of the past. Come on, uh, jazz-journalist-type-people, try to get this one right... I bought the LP back in the day after I read about it in John Litweiler's book (uh, John, that book cost me a lot of money). I don't think I ever saw it again over here so maybe it was rare outisde the US. Did the LP sell well? Maybe the CD will sell better than the original?

David, I've just checked that disc on a discog and it says "Evan Parker trio & Peter Brotzmann trio". Is it a split release or do they play collectively? If collectively, is the potential realised? Well, there are different combinations, including some of each trio separately. An 'interesting' disk but probably not a priority.

Not yet seen a date for this, but there'll be opportunity to revisit early Garbarek when this ECM 3-lps-on-2-cds budget package comes out. Would have preferred a set with Afric Pepperbird and Tryptichon alongside WTT, but hey-ho... Jan Garbarek Dansere | Witchi_Tai_To Jan Garbarek: tenor and soprano saxophones Bobo Stenson: piano Palle Danielsson: double_bass Jon Christensen: drums Sart Jan Garbarek: tenor and bass saxophones, flute Bobo Stenson: piano, electric piano Terje Rypdal: guitar Arild Andersen: double_bass Jon Christensen: percussion Recorded April 1971, November 1973 and November 1975 ECM 2146 – 48 | 3_CD Box in preparation

EP is very adaptive - he's a listener. I'd be interested to hear how he works out with Parker/Drake. They appear kind of together on The Bishop's Move (Victo).

... and turning to amazon we discover that a colossal edition of about 60 TD CDs is about to be released (May 3 in UK) with a few vinyls for good measure. Caveat emptor...

Anybody have any info on this aside that Marc Anderson is with him on this. I'll probably grab it anyways even though I haven't hear anything by him post Big Map Idea. Steve Tibbetts Natural Causes Steve Tibbetts: guitars, piano, kalimba, bouzouki Marc Anderson: percussion, steel drum, gongs ECM 1951 | CD 270 2164 Got these details from ECM pdf catalogue and that's all I know. Edited to add: it's now on the ECM site and there is a dedicated page - http://player.ecmrecords.com/tibbetts Among the items listed in the print catalog but not yet on the site is one which I have not seen announced yet but which will no doubt interest people here when it comes: Roscoe Mitchell and the Note Factory Far Side Roscoe Mitchell: saxophones, flutes Corey Wilkes: trumpet, flugelhorn Craig Taborn: piano Vijay Iyer: piano Harrison Bankhead: cello, double_bass Jaribu Shahid: double_bass Tani Tabbal: drums Vincent Davis: drums ECM 2087 | CD 270 4801

Echo the first sentiment, strongly. And yeah you are right - these ECM-alike covers [i mean the real ones, not the wonderful pastiches] are poor - they show up the virtues and consistency of ECM even if you *don't* really admire the Nordic Twilight aesthetic ('it's dusk, and here I am, all quiet and alone with just the echoes of distant feelings and fading memories...')

I got to know TD through Ricochet. That's 1975 so therefore 'early' but no-one mentioned it (I think). I liked it and played it often though never went further. Now I see there is masses of TD early and late on my streaming service so I'm giving it another go....

I'll admit that while I've always followed Hill I actually am rarely convinced by what I hear. Though I love the avant-garde, mainly things further 'out' than Hill, I still find Grass Roots a more appealing listen than any of the other Blue Notes. I passed on the Mosaic group Select as I had the One on One LP set and figured I didn't need any more from those sessions. Like others I find Point of Departure a bit over-rated. I'd tell anyone to ignore Lift Every Voice. In the light of this thread I might pull all that stuff out and try to work out what I am resistant to - maybe I find too much of that Jarrett-like romantic-impressionistic wandering in his work, albeit without the often flaccid Jarrett harmonies and figures.

Classics. I pre-ordered Sammich direct from ECM and I'm still waiting for it. Apparently production is delayed as they are just adding a few more layers of reverb and echo to take off some rough edges (they've been working on this since 1966, apparently, but it seems it still packs too much 'wallop', a technical term among ECM engineers - those guys are dedicated to perfection). In the meantime I've been looking for an original vinyl but no luck so far.

Couple more I see upcoming: Dino Saluzzi, El Encuentro Marilyn Crispell and David Rothenburgh, One Dark Night I Left My Silent House Steve Tibbetts, Natural Causes Like the title of Iain Ballamy's 'Quiet Inlet', the title of Marilyn Crispell's record seems to promise the usual late-night listening fare. It is a pity that ECM don't explore more aspects of their artists' range of expression. Why does almost everything this label releases have to be made so 'safe'?

I tried to stream the clips but they are 'blocked in your country' ------- but but but, it was my taxes that paid for them in the first place!!!!!!! Grrrr... Edited to add: um, no it's not BBC so I never paid a cent for it. But all the same...

Haden's two LPs of duets with various people (including Jarrett) plus the one with Hampton Hawes and the other with Ornette, were all rather good. It will be a great thing if this new record has even half the life of those, so I say don't write it off...