David Ayers

As well as the Paul Motian we discussed in another thread, recent and upcoming releases include the following: Jasmine by Keith Jarrett and Charlie Haden Oylam by Judith Berkson Quiet Inlet by Food, Iain Ballamy, Thomas Stronen, and Nils Petter Molvaer Crime Scene by Terje Rypdal Remembrance by Ketil Bjornstad, Tore Brunborg, and Jon Christensen Solo Piano: Improvisations/Child... Songs by Chick Corea Green in Blue: Early Quartets by Arild Andersen Third Round by Manu Katche

OK well thanks for those nudges. I do enjoy Paul Motian's playing and he it was who turned me on to jazz at a concert at Leeds University many moons ago (he was part of a quintet led by John Taylor, featuring Evan Parker.... ahhh, had I only realised....). I guess I will find it a bit sleepy (um, a 'sleeper' is something which gets ignored on issue but which people slowly realise is excellent). Somnifery aside, I guess I'll get over to amazon and give it a go.

Quietly artful or just quietly dull? Did ECM select the sleepy tracks even though the gigs were supposedly lively? I am trying to support new jazz releases but don't want (yet another) dull dud, so further opinions appreciated.

No. I think we all agree it's a mistake.

FWIW these are now the titles left on shdrlu's list after taking away Kibg Ubu's list: * A 2 Ray Charles - Genius + Soul = Jazz * A 3 The Incredible Kai Winding Trombones * A 13 Curtis Fuller - Soul Trombone * A 17 Jackie Paris - Song Is Paris * A 19 Manny Albam - Jazz Goes To The Movies * A 20 Shelly Manne - 2-3-4 * A 22 Curtis Fuller - Cabin In The Sky * A 24 Michael Brown - Alarums And Excursions * A 25 Oscar Brand - Morality * A 31 George Wein - Midnight Concert In Paris * A 36 V.A. - Americans In Europe, Vol. 1 * A 37 V.A. - Americans In Europe, Vol. 2 * A 44 Beverly Jenkins - Gordon Jenkins Presents My Wife The Blues Singer * A 46 Gary McFarland - Point Of Departure * A 51 Shirley Scott - For Members Only * A 53 Freda Payne - After The Lights Go Down Low And Much More!!! * A 56 Yusef Lateef - Jazz 'Round The World * A 58 Terry Gibbs - Take It From Me * A 64 The Happy Horns Of Clark Terry * A 67 Shirley Scott - Great Scott!! * A 70 Milt Jackson - Jazz 'N' Samba * A 73 Shirley Scott - Everybody Loves A Lover * A 76 Lorez Alexandria - More Of The Great * A 80 The Russian Jazz Quartet - Happiness * A 82 Chico Hamilton - Chic Chic Chico * A 84 Yusef Lateef - 1984 * A 93 Shirley Scott - Latin Shadows * A 98 Dannie Richmond - "In" Jazz For The Culture Set * A 99 V.A. - The Definitive Jazz Scene, Vol. 1 * A 100 V.A. - The Definitive Jazz Scene, Vol. 2 * A 101 V.A. - The Definitive Jazz Scene, Vol. 3 * A 9102 Chico Hamilton - El Chico * A 9104 Gary McFarland - Tijuana Jazz * A 9105 Gabor Szabo - Gypsy '66 * A 9107 Louis Bellson - Thunderbird * A 9109 Shirley Scott - On A Clear Day * A 9112 Gary McFarland - Profiles * A 9113 Oliver Nelson Plays Michelle * A 9114 Chico Hamilton - The Further Adventures Of El Chico * A 9117 Yusef Lateef - A Flat, G Flat And C * A 9119 Shirley Scott - Roll 'Em * A 9122 Gary McFarland/Gabor Szabo - Simpatico * A 9128 Gabor Szabo - Jazz Raga * A 9131 Zoot Sims - Waiting Game * A 9132 Hank Jones/Oliver Nelson - Happenings * A 9133 Shirley Scott/Clark Terry - Soul Duo * A 9135 Chico O'Farrill - Nine Flags * A 9137 The College Concert Of Pee Wee Russell And Henry 'Red' Allen * AS 9141 Shirley Scott - Girl Talk * AS 9142 Mal Waldron - Sweet Love, Bitter (Soundtrack) * AS 9143 Phil Woods - Greek Cooking * AS 9145 V.A. - Intercollegiate Music Festival, Vol. 1 * AS 9148 John Coltrane - Cosmic Music * AS 9150 Al "Jazzbo" Collins - A Lovely Bunch Of Jazzbo Collins And The Bandidos * AS 9151 Gabor Szabo - Wind, Sky And Diamonds * AS 9154 Archie Shepp - The Magic Of Ju-Ju * AS 9157 Clark Terry - It's What's Happening: The Varitone Sound Of CT * AS 9159 Gabor Szabo/Bob Thiele - Light My Fire * AS 9163 Tom Scott - The Honeysuckle Breeze * AS 9164 Bill Plummer - Cosmic Brotherhood * AS 9166 Emil Richards - Journey To Bliss * AS 9167 Gabor Szabo - More Sorcery * AS 9168 Oliver Nelson/Steve Allen - Soulful Brass * AS 9169 Mel Brown - The Wizard * AS 9171 Tom Scott - Rural Still Life * AS 9172 V.A. - Irrepressible Impulses * AS 9173 The Best Of Gabor Szabo * AS 9174 The Best Of Chico Hamilton * AS 9176 Ahmad Jamal At The Top: Poinciana Revisited * AS 9178 Ornette Coleman - Ornette At 12 * AS 9180 Mel Brown - Blues For We * AS 9182 Emil Richards - The Spirit Of 1976 * AS 9184 Dave Mackay And Vicky Hamilton * AS 9185 Alice Coltrane - Huntington Ashram Monastery * AS 9186 Mel Brown - I'd Rather Suck My Thumb * AS 9187 Ornette Coleman - Crisis * AS 9188 Archie Shepp - For Losers * AS 9189 Milt Jackson - That's The Way It Is * AS 9192 Buddy Montgomery - This Rather Than That * AS 9193 Milt Jackson/Ray Brown - Memphis Jackson * AS 9197 Clifford Coulter - East Side San Jose * AS 9198 Dave Mackay/Vicky Hamilton - Rainbow * AS 9200-2 The Best Of John Coltrane - His Greatest Years

Not sure what you're pointing at, but I hope it's not me. Um, might be me. I guess I was asking what criteria you used in making the list. Peter wants a list of digipacs issued 1995-2000, since he seems to consider the discogs list inaccurate (it is). You seem to have listed reissues produced by Cuscuna, which is a different matter. Your list contains many CDs which exist in digipacs and/or were produced by Cuscuna. I found that confusing so I was trying to ask what you had done and why. Flurian's list at least clears up that a lot has been out in one form or another. FWIW recent UCCI releases in Japan clear up a couple of these which only exist on very inadequate GRP transfers in more modern (if no doubt harsh) sound, such as Statements, Queen of the Organ, Let it Go.

So... this is a list of those LPs which were not re-issued by Michael Cuscuna on CD. Lots of these were issued on CD of course so the distinction is that Cuscuna was not involved in their reissue. I get it, but I'm not sure how to use this list. So now I know that although 'See You at the Fair' was available on CD for many years, Cuscuna had no part in its reissue. Is one assumption here that ALL digipac issues from 1995-2000 were produced by Cuscuna? Or that digipacs not produced for reissue by Cuscuna don't count and are therefore included in the list? I'm struggling. So Liberation Music Orchestra which was a digipac was not produced by Cuscuna? OK I admit I'm not quite there... If the question was about digipacs from 1995-2000 why is the answer couched in terms of whether Cuscuna produced the reissue, since that produces a different list? I just need a nudge... Edited to add Cuscuna did produce the reissue of See You at the Fair. So where does that leave us?

That includes me probably. I'm waiting for them to discover, as in The Sleeper, that red meat, cigarettes, and the uncorrected Kind of Blue are all really *good* for you. As for the fake/modified covers, they are quite amusing in a way. Filling out some of the discs with much rarer tracks is ingenious, but, you know, who cares.

I got this list from the Crazy Jazz website. Cannonball Adderley / John Coltrane Quintet - Wynton Kelly / Paul Chambers / Jimmy Cobb / Albert Heath / Percy Heath : In Chicago - (1959 - Ex Verve + Cannonball Takes Charge - Ex Riverside) Cannonball Adderley - Miles Davis / Hank Jones / Sam Jones / Art Blakey // Nat Adderley / Junior Mance / Sam Jones / Jimmy Cobb : Somethin' Else - (1958 - Ex Blue Note + Sophisticated Swing - 1957 - Ex Emarcy) Count Basie & His Orchestra Feat. Thad Jones / John Anderson / Snooky Young / Joe Newman / Henry Coker / Al Grey / Benny Powell / Marshal Royal... : Dance Along With Basie - (1957-1958 + 11 Bonus Tracks) Dave Brubeck Quartet - Paul Desmond / Eugene Wright / Joe Morello : Gone With The Wind - (1959 - Ex Columbia + Jazz Impressions Of Eurasia - 1958) Miles Davis Feat. John Coltrane / Bill Evans... : Kind Of Blue - (+ 4 Bonus Tracks) Miles Davis + 19 / Gil Evans : Miles Ahead - (1957 - Ex Columbia + Blue Moods) Harry "Sweets" Edison & His Orchestra - Ben Webster / Jimmy Rowles / Barney Kessel / Joe Mondragon / Alvin Stoller : Sweets - (1956 - Ex Verve + 4 Bonus Tracks) Duke Ellington & His Orchestra Feat. Clark Terry / Shorty Baker / Ray Nance / Cat Anderson / Willie Cook / Quentin Jackson / Harry Carney... : Festival Session - (1959 - Ex Columbia + 2 Bonus Tracks) Gil Evans Feat. Johnny Coles / Louis Mucci / Ernie Royal / Frank Rehak / Julius Watkins / Cannonball Adderley / Paul Chambers / Philly Joe Jones... : Great Jazz Standards / New Bottle, Old Wine - (1958 - Ex Pacific Jazz) Art Farmer - Bill Evans / Addison Farmer / Benny Golson / Dave Bailey : Modern Art - (1958 - Ex United Artists / Blue Note + 9 Bonus Tracks - Ex Bethlehem) Ella Fitzgerald Feat. Oscar Peterson / Roy Eldridge / Ray Brown / Jo Jones / J.J.Johnson / Sonny Stitt / Lester Young / Illinois Jacquet... : At The Opera House - (1957 - Ex Verve + 1 Bonus Track) Jimmy Giuffre 3 - Jim Hall / Ralph Pena Or Bob Brookmeyer : The Jimmy Giuffre 3 / Travelin' Light - (1956 & 1958 - Ex Atlantic) Billie Holiday - Charlie Shavers / Tony Scott / Budd Johnson / Paul Quinichette / Wynton Kelly / Billy Taylor / Billy Bauer / Kenny Burrell... : Lady Sings The Blues - (1954-1956 - Ex Verve) Charles Mingus - John Handy / Jimmy Knepper / Willie Dennis / Booker Ervin / Curtis Porter (Shafi Hadi) / Horace Parlan / Dannie Richmond : Mingus Ah Um - (1959 - Ex Columbia + 3 Bonus Tracks) Thelonious Monk Septet - Gigi Gryce / Wilbur Ware / John Coltrane / Coleman Hawkins / Ray Copeland / Art Blakey : Monk's Music - (1957 - Ex Riverside + 5 Bonus Tracks) Thelonious Monk + John Coltrane / Wilbur Ware : Thelonious Himself - (1957 - Ex Riverside + Portrait Of An Ermite - 1954 - Ex Jazz Legacy) Gerry Mulligan Meets Ben Webster - Jimmie Rowles / Leroy Vinnegar / Mel Lewis : Mulligan Meets Webster - (1959 - Ex Verve - All Mastertakes) Art Pepper + Eleven - Pete Candoli / Jack Sheldon / Bud Shank / Herb Geller / Bob Enevoldsen / Richie Kamuca / Bill Perkins / Russ Freeman... : Modern Jazz Classics - (1959 - Ex Contemporary + 7 Bonus Tracks) Oscar Peterson Trio - Herb Ellis / Ray Brown : At The Stratford Shakespearean Festival - (1956 - Ex Verve) Django Reinhardt Feat. Stéphane Grappelli / Bill Coleman / Rex Stewart / Barney Bigard / Dicky Wells / Joseph Reinhardt / Pierre Baro Ferret : The Best Of Django Reinhardt - 24 Classic Jazz Performances - (1937-1945) George Russell Feat. John Coltrane / Art Farmer / Al Cohn / Bill Evans / Bob Brookmeyer / Phil Woods / Barry Galbraith / Milt Hinton / Max Roach... : New York, N.Y. - (1958-1959 - Ex U.S. Decca + 2 Bonus Tracks) Zoot Sims Quartet - John Williams / Nabil 'Knobby' Totah / Gus Johnson : Zoot - (1956 - Ex Argo + Plays Alto, Tenor & Baritone - Ex Abc-Paramount) Stuff Smith / Oscar Peterson - Barney Kessel / Ray Brown / Alvin Stoller + Carl Perkins : Stuff Smith - (1957 - Ex Verve + 2 Bonus Tracks)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00r89rd/Jazz_on_3_Matthew_Shipp_and_John_Butcher/

Well, it seems like time to leap in and buy what you still need over the coming few months. Problem here in the UK is that sterling is getting caned and those seven disk beauties look a lot more costly than they once did... Come to think of it maybe it's time I *sold* some sets...

Best bet with Newbury is to go to the Newbury Street store and buy what you see In fact, it is logically possible for them to have the inventory listed on each site. I'd say if you are after the bargain options these are priced on amazon in a particular way and will artrive or not one item at a time - what's to lose?

His wording suggests it wasn't recorded, but there is always hope.

I think Wes Montgomery might be what you are looking for. His studio sides are a bit careful, sometimes he plays bass which will bore you, and his solos sometimes contain both chordal work and a top/bottom string double octave playing which are not strictly what you are asking for - but. Oh and there's a lot of stuff with orchestra which no-one really cares for. And yet.... he's musically and technically better than uh some others who keep getting mentioned - try the live version of Mr Walker from a live Paris gig in 1965. It will slay you.

Yeah this is some record. Sometimes a little underestimated, I feel, by people for whom the Lyons trio is the apogee of Taylordom.

Good luck, Jeff.

I guess if it has been around 35 years it can stay around for another day or two till you order it up. Seriously, it's a rewarding one as these things go, if maybe not a beast, so I say go for it. Surprised you don't have it already... ahem Edited to add...that the LP has more character -

The end is nigh.

Happy Birthday my friend. Hey look we recycled this thread and saved the planet.

Is that really 2006? Seems like only yesterday. So we've had *three* tours since then? Wow.

'was' He died some years back. He was a rock journalist, one of the best in the 70s. I read the Shostakovich back in the 80s when I was just getting interested and found it really helpful. Perhaps he was out of his depth re: the classical world but his book was a nice introduction to a new listener. There's a place for the general introduction alongside the musicological and scholarly. The Beatles book works because it is more in the area he generally worked in. Present historic tense. I looked him up on wikipedia before I laid into him. But before that I read his book. What I am saying Bev is that I don't agree with the view you express (which is a standard view in some quarters, apparently). How did it help to read something so ill-informed and badly argued? It may have felt like it helped, but that is not the same thing. And I never mentioned the classical world. I said he is ignorant of music, ignorant of critical and cultural theory, cannot read the materials on which he pronounces, and does not observe basic scholarly and intellectual standards. Did he really put all this right before tackling the Beatles, or is that too (as I suspect) just more of the same?

I just read Ian MacDonald's book on Shostakovich. I don't propose to read the Beatles book which some of you guys seem to like. MacDonald is an amateur and a hack. He was absolutely unqualified to write a book on Shostakovich. He did not know music, was not a historian or intellectual, he knew no Russian and could not access even basic documents. Everything in the book is plagiarised from other sources, principally the faked Testimony. The only original parts are the callow and impressionistic descriptions of music (um, bit like reading crappy jazz CD liner notes). I found myself shocked that something so shallow and misleading is (still) in circulation and even recommended (by equally under-prepared readers, it seems). Is there anybody out there? Edited to remove apostrophe in "Beatle's" . . .

And Evelyn Rothwell, John Barbirolli's second wife: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Barbirolli Yes! I am listening now to the Rawsthorne concerto which was comissioned for her.

There are quite a few British concertos and chamber works for oboe (I'm listening to Bliss's Oboe Quintet as I write - see what you did to me!). These seem often to have been commissioned by or written for Leon Goossens. That explains why there is such a cluster in mid-C20th British music. These crop up in recordings on Naxos, Chandos and Lyrita. I've got a few here mainly on Naxos CD but I don't love this period of British music too much so haven't really absorbed them. While I was thinking about it I recalled sonatas by Hindemith for both Oboe and Cor Anglais, which can be found on an MDG disk.

Thanks, David. I'm familiar with Carter, Maderna, and Rihm (but really only their work for string quartet), a little Nielsen (the symphonies), and Ligeti (string quartet), but have only heard Carter's work for oboe (there's an excellent disc on ECM titled Lauds and Laments with Heinz Holliger on oboe). I'll look into the other composers' work for oboe. What labels? (Montaigne?) Any other recs out there? The Carter is on a Warner Apex issue, if it isn't on the ECM, all three Maderna are on a Col Legno disk, and the single Rihm piece is on Haenssler along with other of his orchestral works. Both Ligeti wind quartets appear on a Sony disk along with his Horn Trio (a major work in Ligeti's oeuvre and a 'must hear'), I guess just any Nielsen would do (I have it on a BBC Music Magazine disk). The Hindemith Kleine Kammermusik can be heard on any collection of his 1920s (otherwise more orchestral) Kammermusik such as the invaluable double by Chailly on Decca (a key recording, probably) and I also have it alongside the Schoenberg on a Koch disk which is probably OOP but might float back in some form. I guess you know the Stravinsky but I'll mention anyway I like the version on the Boulez disk with Symphony of Psalms on DG. After I posted I remember that Ligeti also has a concerto for Flute and Oboe (nothing that Shank and Cooper would have come up with!) and I remembered one piece with major cor anglais part (ta da!) which is James Macmillan's The World's Ransoming (there's an LSO Live disk of that). I also recalled that Magnus Lindberg's Cantigas has a major part for Oboe, and is available on a mighty Sony disk which I see is going for $7.99 on amazon.com and, while you maybe only need two of the four works recorded on that disk, is probably worth dropping in your basket. I won't say this is absolutely essential music but the recordings with the Philharmonia conducted by Esa Pekka Salonen are rich and vivid. In both the Macmillan and Lindberg pieces the reed player is credited but is not a concertante soloist, so stays inside the orchestra and is recorded accordingly (i.e. not in close up). I'm with you on the Ligeti, Carter and Rihm String Quartets. I collected the Rihm series on Col Legno avidly and would say to anyone to snap up the Arditti double of Carter on Etcetera (there is an alternative pair of disks on Naxos which is also well reviewed). While I guess I don't love the first Ligeti quartet I'd still say to anyone else reading this to pick up the Arditti version on Sony (I guess this is what you have) while it is still around and inexpensive (although there are other versions which are all recommended, and the other works on the Sony disk are early and not necessary, so shouldn't be a factor in selecting a version), and I'd throw in for good measure Aimard's recording of (most of) the Etudes in that same Sony series, again while it is still around and cheap. I'm aware on this board you are mainly likely to be telling people stuff they already know but your question tempted me to chip in. So please excuse all parts of this which are a lesson in egg-sucking!