David Ayers

Well you are right on the stream of CDs thing but when I do that I over-order and stuff arrives after I have lost interest (I'm very flighty apparently) especially pre-orders which are a bane.

Oh I used to hate how they took them out and filed them! BTW I'm not advocating supporting stores, exactly, I'm saying receiving CDs by mail gets on my wick. Probably internet ordering makes me spend more than I would even though per unit it is maybe 30% cheaper. There's a serendipity in stores I like too. But I guess I have no real collecting I do any more so for me it is more about fun. I'd never shop in stores for books, which are work, and which in any case I just want to access and mostly don't care to own (storage of slowly rotting wood-pulp issue...). And this is why I like streaming - minimal logistics. Unlike you guys I have stores local to me, great stores in central London, and I visit places too with great stores. And some with just NOTHING.

Well *part* of my thing about CDs is they are designed to be in stores and there is a crazy logic about internet mail order where you have to wait and wait. So part of me thinks either buy it in store and go home with it or just stream it WHEN YOU WANT IT. So it is about ergonomics and also ecology - the carbon footprint of home deliveries is much higher than store deliveries. In other words if I am going to buy CDs maybe I want the store or gig experience, otherwise i just want the instant gratification. This is all easy for me to say as i have a pile of stuff here and no need really to buy very much more....

works of art which cannot be understood in themselves but need some pretentious instruction book to justify their existence will never again find their way to the German people.

Time was the dedicated supported the bricks-and-mortar against online cd orders. These days the dedicated support the specialist online CD retailer against the amazons, or CD itself against downloads. There are even those who support downloads against streaming. Personally I support stores (or direct purchase at venues) and spend more there than online, and support streaming against download (which I now almost never do). I've been considering a move to 100% real world for my purchases. Not sure yet. Where do you guys stand on all this? (Old topic, just having a conversation...)

There probably *aren't* better editions, just different ones, though I think the way forward is to make a selection from the existing offerings on the London Symphonies and other later ones and then maybe go for the unfinished and incomplete Hogwood for everything up to 75 plus a smattering of others. Still missing a few but - hey...

If I ever get a set of the cantatas it will be a more modern one. Cheap, though, I'll grant you that

I can very much relate to that ... also to your previous post of course - about need (or lack thereof) to hear stuff at home vs. in concert. I play less and less contemporary avantgarde-leaning music at home. Tough I keep buying some kinds of. My Leo discs get few spins only, and honeslty I've not heard all the ten I ordered in last year's sale. Still I am tempted to get a few again this time ... filling some Taylor, Sun Ra, Art Ensemble gaps, maybe. Will have to inspect that list a little closer first though (and check if I still have my wantist from last year somewhere - probably not, so it's going from scratch again). Taylor is a case in point. I was present at the Rome stop of the tour that yielded Bologna and Vienna discs. I bought the lps as soon as they came out - and still have them, new and unplayed, waiting for the right day....

I heard the Ganelin trio on their first UK tour. I loved them but it was one of those cases where the impression was so vivid I never felt the need to buy or hear recordings. Hm, Topic for a thread there.

How does he produce (and stock) so many? He must lose money hand over fist. Most of those in the sale are older titles I have already mostly decided to pass on. I'm not too enthusiastic about some of the artists although I will happily hear some recommendations, even if I am not likely to get much further than Spotify. Correction: the artists are fine, I just don't feel the need to be able to access their work outside the context of their gigs.

Thanks for posting that - in fact I was about to go for some more Leos so the timing is guuud.

Which Rivers is in the set? I didn't manage to work that out... Ah. Got the LP. On CD ages ago right? Thanks.

Which Rivers is in the set? I didn't manage to work that out...

Well no way will this set be an upgrade on those!

Re. the remastering, I'd be more worried about getting the crappy old GRP remasters...

Also now listed with a (slightly higher) price on amazon.fr....

Noise fest. Yeah.

Corrected. Why didn't somebody say something about this earlier ... Sorry. I just thought that "Surpreme" was beyond Supreme, what with it having one more letter, and figured, hey, Mark knows what's up, so like, hey, right? Mark does know what's up, but sometimes he's a sloppy speller. You cats gotta keep me honest. It was better before! Change it back!

Glad to see 'Surpreme' spelt correctly in the thread title, sorry to see a sad lapse on 'Luurve'.

Shovelfuls of this stuff on spotters, for those interested. I started a list a while ago but never got anywhere close...

???? Been there many times, and they have always been good to me as a customer. A weak joke - I mean the mind games over whether they have that disc in stock...

Seems they're about to be renamed the Bravehearts, anyway. Which just leaves us with the issue of antisemitism.

And the parallel with antisemitic hate speech is? I couldn't defend it with the same pride that some here do. Be nice, the world will get nicer.

Agreed. I mean, we can't sanitize everything. Look how watered down Saturday Night Live is compared to the 70s and 80s. Like everything has to be politically correct these days? Does that also apply to the name of the football team? I made the same point in one of my posts. In the meantime the callow logic of the Onion hurls around hate speech and Jews are supposed to suck it up just like the Native Americans are supposed to put up with 'Redskins'. And here, supposedly liberal people defend the use of this speech instead of concluding, more reasonably, that as it is profoundly offensive to some it should not be used. Be nice. It won't hurt.

I'm not going to DMG either way. I'm done with their mind games.