David Ayers

Ornette has vetoed those titles. That's the reason. Re. Corea: Song of Singing is available on CD, albeit at import price, with 'Drone' from Circulus added (I think). Much or all of Circling In is on Early Circle, and some added to Song of Singing. That leaves you with three sides of Circulus, which will never be a priority release, I shoudn't think.

Actually when you come to think about what 'we' are 'missing' you have to admit we've done rather well over the years, even recent years.

Ornette Coleman, Crisis and Ornette at 12. And that impossible Fontana series would walk off the shelves.

Agree the missing Braxtons are key. But, guess what, they are available to anyone who doesn't need the uh hard copy. But you already know that don't you? Luckily for me I'm one of the 3000 owners of the original. These days anyone doing a CD reissue does so knowing that everybody who has access to google has already got their stuff, so they are only selling to those who voluntarily pay. We've seen all the rationalisations for that over the years on this board among the people who purport to care for and support the music.You can have as much music as you ever need, and everything you want, for nothing. Why pay more? It isn't only blogs and torrenting, it is all the private trading, and it is all the trading of bootlegs as well - if you've got the 20 or 40 Sam Rivers or Roscoe concerts that have circulated, maybe that's all you need. Oh plus a sneaky copy or two because 'I spend so much on music anyway'. That's the market. I bought Willisau when it was issued in 1992. I paid about 44 UKP, which at today's USD prices would be well over $100. If hat issued Willisau at that price almost everyone would say it was too much and stick to their flacs. So hat already have to issue it at lower cost, with lower revenues for everybody concerned, and even then most people will say they are waiting for it to come down, or they'll pick it up sometime, etc. These are just facts about the market. And this is what the fans are doing, not some 'other' people - only fans give a damn.

What Ubu said, except illegal duplication is the source of this, not PD. On this board the anger deflected on to PD and streaming is all displaced guilt. Everyone has a justification for doing it (blame the owners they won't reissue it! Blame euro PD, they 'stole' it and so will I!). For that reason we don't talk about it, but it is the one factor. Well, that and lack of interest and market saturation. Who needs 200 Anthony Braxton records? No disrespect...

I've got maybe 200 CDs I've not yet played. But I just stream away. Full marks so far for the Roscoe, Halvorson and Taylor Ho Bynum disks that are mentioned here...

I don't see how you can go wrong with that Wagner set. That said, I only know the Solti Lohengrin (and it's the only Lohengrin I know!) So my advice is worth squat.

Think Clark Kent and Superman. Think Jekyll and Hyde. Um. No that's not quite it. Just remember that on Bitches Brew Chick is on the, er, left and Keith, oh wait no, that's Joe Zawinul. Um... just give me a minute...

@CraigP I don't buy anything like as many as you, I don't think, but I've been 90+% new release for a few years now. Spotify though has been a big part of the answer. I wonder if streaming services affect polling? I'm sure they help artists' profile, and for example the titles you guys listed, the ones on Spotify I am working through, some I may buy, and I can talk about and support all those titles/artists. Titles not on Spotify I'm much less likely to ever hear, unless they are by people I know. That's all got to have some effect on the standing of recent releases.

Cool! The new one is no frills, but at least it doesn't take up much space!

This is the new budget version, right? Don't remember hearing about defects. Got one here but haven't opened it.

I noticed the shortened list a while ago but their site was malfunctioning and I couldn't copy and paste here. I agree there's not much point in speculating, but the fact it has been revised shows at least that the program is 'live'.

Ten years on.... Soooooooo, will be hunting them all down again, won't be hunting them all down again? Well not *all* of them...but I am back in the fold to the extent that he really hits the sweet spot for me these days.

Ten years on....

I couldn't really understand from this discussion what we are talking about - GA's link is to a 2004 release, not a recent one. In any case, the tracks of Coltranology Vol 2 are as follows 1. Mr P.C. 2. Traneing In 3. Spiritual 4. I Want To Talk About You Just not sure how we established that 'this' CD (whatever CD we are in fact talking about) contains these tracks. Feeling a bit slow this morning.

Ok so my new game is as follows. Anecdote. I was thinking about the reissue of Jarrett's Arbour Zena. Never heard it. Perhaps bizarrely, I am curious to hear it. Could um internet-is-your-friend it but not my style. Instead I listened to André Previn's Violin Concerto. And pretended it was Keith Jarrett. Now, in many ways it couldn't have been. But in some ways it could. And listening to it as if it were made me hear it differently. So. A new game. Bev will tell you where I got the name for the game.

Mods - would you mind unpinning all but the most essential threads (if any)? Such as this one From my phone at least these often dead threads are always near the top. Why does any thread need to be pinned? Certainly makes things untidy for me.

Piles of these in Fopp (London) today. Done so many of these before, I took a pass.

Re. Honegger's politics there's this http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/arts/music/29chant.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Been enjoying Britten's A Boy is Born on this BBC CD from ten years ago. It also includes Respighi's L'Adorazione dei Magi and Honegger's Une Cantate de Nöel.

I'm pretty sure I won't get round to this in the near future but someone here might Experiencing 'Flow' in Jazz Performance Elina Hytönen-Ng, University of Eastern Finland, Finland The term 'flow' refers to experiences where the musician moves into a consciousness in which time seems to be suspended and perception of reality is blurred by unconscious forces. An essential part of the jazz tradition, which often serves as the foundation of the musician's identity, flow is recognised within the greater jazz community as a critical factor in accomplished musicianship. Flow as a concept is so deeply embedded in the scene that these experiences are not generally discussed. It contributes to the musicians' work motivation, providing a vital level of satisfaction and accomplishment. The power of the experience, consciously or unconsciously, has given rise to the creation of heroic images, in which jazz musicians are seen as being bold, yet vulnerable, strong and masculine, but still capable of expressing emotions. In this discourse, musicians are pictured as people constantly putting themselves on the line, exposing themselves and their hearts to one another as well as to the audience. Heroic profiles are richly constructed within the jazz scene, and their incorporation into narratives of flow suggests that such images are inseparable from jazz. It is thus unclear how far the musicians are simply reporting personal experience as opposed to unconsciously perpetuating a profoundly internalised mythology. Drawing on eighteen interviews conducted with professional jazz musicians from around the world, Elina Hytönen-Ng examines the fundamentals of the phenomenon of flow in jazz that has led to this genre's popularity. Furthermore, she draws on how flow experiences are viewed and constructed by jazz musicians, the meanings they attach to it, and the quality of music that it inspires. About the Author: Elina Hytönen-Ng is a cultural researcher and an ethnomusicologist working at the University of Eastern Finland. Her current interest is in the contemporary British jazz scene. She has been an academic visitor at the Faculty of Music, University of Oxford and a visiting research fellow at King's College, London. http://www.ashgate.com/default.aspx?page=637&calcTitle=1&title_id=11909&edition_id=12281 PS you can read the introduction on the website, if interested - there's a link at the bottom of the page. PPS I notice the author is now working on the contemporary British jazz scene maybe someone has already met her - Mr. Hawkins?

I know. And I've still got all my Nessa LPs, which puts me right up there with Conan. Actually I'm perverse enough that I'll buy the Contrasts CD. I'm hoping this batch of five back catalogue issues might be a sign of more (and better) to come.

I sold both Contrasts and Sizzle. I'm a barbarian.

Not my pick either. Not sure why two re-re-issues are in there (Arbour Zena and as I now learn African Piano). Whether these are new remasterings or just straight reissues to complement the LPs who knows. In any case, I guess on this board Contrasts will prove the main curiosity, and a sign maybe of a few more deep catalogue reissues to come - ?

Amazon.co.uk pre-order prices are a little spicy but will likely come down.