mikeweil

The only jazz I played in the car over the last few years was Wes Montgomery's organ trios with Melvin Rhyne on Riverside, the early Blue Note Kenny Burrell - in session order, before the Conn set was out - , the Thad Jones Period sessions. Laura Nyro's last Columbia CD, Walk the Dod & Light the Light, and the Live at the Bottom Line CD; John Martyn's The Apprentice and Couldn't Love You More; and a wealth of Cassette tapes with old and never highlife stuff from Ghana a friend from there gives me from time to time.

Forgot to mention the Quinichette - I dig it to death. That too isn't all this artists did for the label. And the Cleveland, had an Lp of it and knew what to expect. There was some great hardbop related stuff on EmArcy in the mid to late 1950's! My wish list for future Verve etc. reissues, no matter in what series (I prefer the non-mini-LP covers): the Cal Tjader Verve not yet on CD dtto for Ray Brown dtto. for Jimmy Giuffre The LPR series covers Impulse/ABC and Argo/Chess/Cadet as well, which had their separate series at the time the Elite was run. Universal series ...

This is what I posted about the Elites I have in the Conn thread: "I intended to buy all Verve Elites, although I'm not a completist - but got rid of some of these as well: The Stitt, the Hank Jones, the Tal Farlow, the Konitz, the Johnny Smith .... didn't like them enoght to keep them, space and budget limits. The ones I didn't buy were the Meade Lux Lewis, the Kelly (had it on LP and found it downright boring), the Farmer, the Alan Shorter, the Teagarden, the Edison (If I had known Jimmy Forrest is on it I would have got it for sure), the Bauer, the Eldridge, the Washington, the Brown (this may be one to hunt), the Russell (disappointing compared to the others I have), the Jazztet and the Schifrin. But the one I have I dig very much - the Elites and the Conns. " A friend had borrowed me the Tigpen LP some 20 years ago, so I knew what to do when it was reissued! Great playing from all involved. Th Walt Dickerson with Sun Ra is a gem, I play it often. Same for the Clark Terry - they could have included all of the Cats vs. Chicks date, even if Terry isn't on all of the tracks. There is some more Blakey on EmArcy, there was a different compilation in Japan several years earlier. The Ray Brown is nice, too. It's 15 I kept - would by the Edison for Jimmy Forrest if I can find it. I think the basic difference between the Elite and Master Edition besides the slightly different cover concept is the sales potential - Elite titles are limited because it's more obscure stuff, the Master will sll more over a longer period of time - pretty much the difference betwenn the Conn and RVG series. The LPR series has taken the role of the Elite series, but of Verve By Request as well, I believe. The Tjader etc. would have been VBR, for sure.

BTW, Jamal moved from Okeh to Parrot because Columbia closed its Chicago branch, I quote from the excellent site linked in my post above: "In January 1954, Parrot conducted a significant jazz recording session with pianist Ahmad Jamal. Born Fritz Jones in Pittsburgh, Jamal went as "Freddy" during World War II, when a Germanic name lacked appeal, then dropped his birth name entirely (to the extent of vehemently denying he'd ever been called Fritz Jones) after converting to Islam. He arrived in Chicago in 1950; Musicians Union Local 208 gave him some trouble before allowing him to contract for gigs locally. On December 16, 1950, the Defender ran an ad and a photo with caption for bassist's Israel Crosby's band appearing at Jack's Back Door (5859 South State). The photo named Fritz Jones on piano and Johnny Thompson on tenor sax. While still Fritz Jones, he made his first recordings (with bass and guitar) for OKeh in 1951. And he was going as "Fritz Jones" on August 2, 1951, when Local 208 of the Musicians Union accepted and filed his contract with the 113 Lounge. Pre-release advertisements from OKeh referred to the "Fritz Jones Trio," but by the time of his second session in 1952, he had changed his name. After OKeh threw in the towel on its Chicago operations in 1953, Jamal moved to Parrot. "But Not for Me," "Seleritus" (an original ballad), "Excerpts from the Blues" and "It Could Happen to You" were recorded with a trio that included Ray Crawford on electric guitar and the celebrated Chicago-born bassist Richard Davis. Jamal's style is already recognizable on these numbers and Sun Ra's later charge that Jamal ripped off his rendition of "But Not for Me" lacks credibility. Al Benson may have been in no great hurry to issue the material, but he sensed enough commercial potential to call the trio back in May 1955 for the only LP to be released on the Parrot label. Major commercial success came to Ahmad Jamal in 1958, when his new trio with Israel Crosby on bass and Vernel Fournier on drums made the Live at the Pershing LPs for the Chess subsidiary Argo." These are the dates for Parrot 78 session: P-53185 Ahmad Jamal But Not for Me Parrot 810 P53-186 Ahmad Jamal Excerpts from the Blues Parrot 818 P53-187 Ahmad Jamal It Could Happen to You Parrot 818 P-53189 Ahmad Jamal Seleritus Parrot 810 recorded January 1954, released prob. December 1954 Ahmad Jamal piano, Ray Crawford guitar, Richard Davis bass.

Of course it would make a great Mosaic, but when I e-mailed them a year or two ago, they replied the Chamber Jazz LP was "in legal tangles, or we would have done the trio long ago", at least that was about what they said. Only one track appeared on a Chess Jamal compilation (New Rumba). The complete Okeh sides were on two French CBS CDs several years ago. Maybe some Spanish label will do it once the copyright runs out in Europe? I'm afraid the two Parrot 78's will be hard to find, as is an LP in good condition. Did you get it there were four titles recorded for Parrot before the Lp session? That makes five sessions in all. (Can you/do you make LP to CDR transfers? I have only a cassette made from a scratchy LP bought second hand in Paris, it was so badly warped I played and taped it once under serious precautions and gave it to a friend whose turntable could handle it better .... )

Mike, I think you have not the earliest but a slightly later issue of this one. I think the earliest issue had a very weird looking cover in which the jacket opened up in the middle of the front (as in, both right and left sides were regular "spines". I just picked up a Japanese LP facsimile of this one in the Red Trumpet super duper sale ($12 instead of the original $35) That's how the cover of my copy looks like: The latest discographical evidence displayed here dates this session back to August, 1953!!!

Bet none of you has ever seen this one:

Here's the original cover and even the back!

If "original" means the first issue, The Parrot and Blue Lake Labels can help you, as this LP was sold to the Chess Brothers only some time later. Be patient, it's a large page that takes eternities to load, but it is very informative and well done.

Maybe it was a hackers gang called the brazilian bluenote badboys

If you read this AAJ thread, it tells you what happened. Hopefully not over here. Maybe a similar thing happened to the Blue Note Forum Server, and they just didn't admit?

Yeah, that was it! Couldn't recall the title, thanks a lot!

Yeah, that's a good selection, and still in print!

I'd say let's wait some more days or perhaps the whole week to give the others a chance to post their comments. I'd rather wait than miss JSngry or couw or Soul Stream or whoever hasn't commented yet. Or are they just taking their time? Anyway, don't be disappointed, Dan, it's a great disc, I play it often!

I once had a Japanese VeeJay double LP of Hank with the Wynton Kelly trio, is that identical to the Fresh Sound?

That Dolphy cover is my favourite so far (if it only had happened ......)! The Cassanda-nite is nice too ...

For those interested, here's a list of the Tucker LPs of the late 1970's: Title - label & # - recording place & date - personnel Triplicity - Xanadu 128 - NYC, December 22, 1975 Mickey Tucker p, org on side 2 Gene Perla b Eddie Gladden d Jimmy Ponder g on organ tracks Sojourn see above Doublet - Dan VC-8501 (Japan) - probably Tokyo, November 15, 1976 Tucker p Cameron Brown b Toshio Oshumi d Sweet Lotus Lips - Denon YX-7535 (Japan) - Tokyo, June 3, 1978 Tucker p Reggie Workman b Horacee Arnold d Theme for a Woogie Boogie - Denon YX-7804 - NYC, November 15 & 16, 1978 Louis Smith tp Curtis Fuller tb Jimmy Buffington frh George Coleman as & ts Tucker p Takashi "Gon" Mizuhashi b Eddie Gladden d Nobu Urushiyama perc The Denon CD DC-8552 is titled Sweet Lotus Lips includes only 5 of the 6 tracks of that LP, but adds all of Theme for a Woogie Boogie! The Crawl - Muse MR 5223 / K22P-6047 (Japan) - NYC, May 16, 1979 Marcus Belgrave tp Slide Hampton tb Junior Cook ts Tucker p Earl May b Billy Hart d Ted Dunbar g on one track Mister Mysterious - Muse MR 5174 - Englewood Cliffs, June 23, 1978 Cecil Bridgewater tp Frank Foster ts, ss, fl Pepper Adams bs Tucker p Cecil McBee b Eddie Gladden d Ray Mantilla perc on two tracks Azzedin Weston cga on one track I can recommend all of them for anybody who likes Tucker's playing from one occasion, or his writing - he wrote all the material for the larger groups and most on the others. Then there are some Steeplechase albums which can be viewed on their Tucker page It is true that he moved to Australia.

Bill Hardman tp Junior Cook ts Ronnie Cuber bs Mickey Tucker p Cecil McBee b Eddie Gladden d RCA Studios, NYC, March 28, 1977 Engineer: Paul Goodman Xanadu 143 Whoever said it is under-rehearsed never listened to that album. All tracks were composed and arranged by Tucker and are his impressions of a European tour with the Jazz Messengers - his quotes in Bob Blumenthal's notes are much fun to read, and the music is full of Tucker's own take on humour in music - if I had but one album to pick as Tucker's most impressive, I'd probably choose Sojourn! Great playing from all involved. Highly recommended!

Got around to go through this thread only now, I got 54 incl. West Coast etc. listed in this thread. Didn't count the Larry Young and Freddie Redd as I've got the Mosaics. Had the Tina Brooks Mosaic but put it on ebay after I had the Conns since I didn't like Minor Move - which I don't have. Didn't get the Criss Imperials - had them on three Japanese CDs which I put on ebay - like the Prestiges much better. Got rid of the Dodo Greene, Jutta Hipp, Harold Vick, they didn't grow enough on me after repeated listens. Didn't get the LaRoca or Jenkins as I have Japanese LPs - oh, I sold the Jenkins later on. Each of these has its merits, it's just that may storage space and budget are limited ... I intended to buy all Verve Elites, although I'm not a completist - but got rid of some of these as well: The Stitt, the Hank Jones, the Tal Farlow, the Konitz, the Johnny Smith .... the ones I didn't buy were the Meade Lux Lewis, the Kelly (had it on LP and found it downright boring), the Farmer, the Alan Shorter, the Teagarden, the Edison (If I had known Jimmy Forrest is on it I would have got it for sure), the Bauer, the Eldridge, the Washington, the Brown (this may be one to hunt), the Russell (disappointing compared to the others I have), the Jazztet and the Schifrin. But the one I have I dig very much - the Elites and the Conns.

No folks, that photo's too much like sleeping between the sheets of music ... No wonder they do so few reissues at Blue Note: they just can't do it right for you guys !

I can clearly feel the message, but would like to see a "serious" take on the Train Wreck cover as well B) To complete the series of Blue Note sessions stranded on Black Lion, how about the Stanley Cowell Trio with Steve Novosel and Jimmy Hopps recorded at the same June 1969 stay in London as Tolliver's Ringer LP? It was called Travellin' Man

Great interview, many thanks. Saddening to read how he thought of his albums waiting on the Blue Note vault shelves, considering they included some of his greatest compositional achievements.

That happened to me with a track on test # 2, an LP I had listened to just a few months ago. So it goes. I ordered the Gaslini CD a few days ago, I will post my thoughts about the Suite as a whole here after a few spins.

After a review in downbeat stating is was not up to the great sides he recorded for Blue Note, I listened to it in a shop and thought it was too repetitive, not as varied and creative in its approach as the older recordings. If you're not an avid Meade Lux Lewis or Boogie Woogie collector, the Mosaic or the single Blue Note CD would be more satisfying. I'd say give it a listen first and decide by yourself.

Thanks, Dan, to turning me to the jewels in my LP collection that I don't pull out that often. I've got the answer to # 6. I have it, and should have recognized a Dameron tune - I share his birthday and he's always been on of my favourite composers. At least my feeling that I should know all these guys was right. It's Sid's Delight, but not Dameronia, but that is pretty close. And it's not Philly Joe, but .... Bruyninckx has detailed personnel listings for each track on that LP that I suggested for # 8, AMG lists only collective personnel. If he's right, it's Green. It's a damn nice CD to keep on spinnin' all day!